There is never going to be one single update that just completely fixes the lag. Sure the next patch will help a good amount with the lag but it isn't going to just get rid of it completly. Lag is something that is going to get worked out in a ongoing way. Getting better and better with each patch.

Malmai wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Remember when ZOS said that they "like the game the way it is now"?

I wonder if that includes the lag?

I wonder too because as it is now many F2P games have better performance...

True but many of those F2P games have far more Channels and are more Zoned so less stress on the megaserver...

This game had massive game breaking lag in Cyrodiil at launch.... No I dont think its going to get fixed.

We can't really judge by PTS, its on a server with way less capacity then the normal servers. I highly foubt lagg will be fixed but i hope that its atelast bareable..

BippNasty wrote: »

There is never going to be one single update that just completely fixes the lag. Sure the next patch will help a good amount with the lag but it isn't going to just get rid of it completly. Lag is something that is going to get worked out in a ongoing way. Getting better and better with each patch.

The issue with your statement is .... none of ZOS's "fixes" have actually improved Cyrodiil (PvP) even a little. For many it has become worse each time!

Thevampirenight wrote: »

I believe the mailing system that is causeing a lot of problems for those testing pts.
Because you possibly got more pvp reward mail spam, that overfloods the overflow mailbox. Thus it strains the server.
When you play on a charater after making a preleveled all the way up to vet level sixteen character.
The game seems to load up stuff slower and you can see lag spikes on the ground as you run, sometimes.
I do believe the pvp rewards are one of the causes.
Before making the vet level sixteen charater everything seemed fine without seeing lag spikes.
But if you have more then 100+ most likly more in pvp rewards thats not helping you much because the system saves it and strains your conection to the server.
I think this has led to people dcing and also having longer load screens. As well as more pvp lag.
Maybe it could be the animations but most likly the mailing system.

They had a very similar issue with questing when it came to load screens in zones. If you had completed lots of quests your load times where very extended. It is interesting you bring this up as I have not PVP'ed very often and have only recently started PVPing with frequency on Azura's and I have almost no lag and there have been a lot of people in a small area battling. Been in some huge battles with lots of siege as well and there has almost been no performance issues. I am on XBNA.

Should be interesting to see as I progress if the game gets more laggy.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to be clear, we never promised that the performance in Cyrodiil would be fixed with today's patch. What we did say was that we were continually working to improve performance by adding little things in at a time, which includes some items in today's patch. There's no magic bullet to fix all performance-related issues, though.

Can you go over to Wrobels office and just tell him to remove AoE caps? Please?

Wollust wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to be clear, we never promised that the performance in Cyrodiil would be fixed with today's patch. What we did say was that we were continually working to improve performance by adding little things in at a time, which includes some items in today's patch. There's no magic bullet to fix all performance-related issues, though.

Can you go over to Wrobels office and just tell him to remove AoE caps? Please?

You realize that removing AoE caps would mean MORE server-side calculations, as the server would then have to calculate the damage on everyone?

Removing AoE caps might potentially be nice against zergs, but it won't solve the performance issues.

rmerlb16_ESO wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to be clear, we never promised that the performance in Cyrodiil would be fixed with today's patch. What we did say was that we were continually working to improve performance by adding little things in at a time, which includes some items in today's patch. There's no magic bullet to fix all performance-related issues, though.

Can you go over to Wrobels office and just tell him to remove AoE caps? Please?

You realize that removing AoE caps would mean MORE server-side calculations, as the server would then have to calculate the damage on everyone?

Removing AoE caps might potentially be nice against zergs, but it won't solve the performance issues.

No it wouldn't, for one simple reason: You will almost never hit more than 60 targets (current AoE cap) with your skills. I have managed to do so once, and I play a lot of PvP. That means that the calculations for the AoE cap targets are much more straining as it has to do different checks and apply different amounts of damage instead of just applying the same amount of damage to everyone in the area.

I am not saying at all that removing the AoE caps will solve the performance issues. The underlying issue is much bigger than this, however, I do believe that removing the AoE caps will help more than whatever they have been trying for the last 1.5 years.

Wollust wrote: »

No it wouldn't, for one simple reason: You will almost never hit more than 60 targets (current AoE cap) with your skills. I have managed to do so once, and I play a lot of PvP. That means that the calculations for the AoE cap targets are much more straining as it has to do different checks and apply different amounts of damage instead of just applying the same amount of damage to everyone in the area.

Wasn't there a period of time where we used to have small AoE caps, or is my memory playing tricks on me? If there was, then I don't remember the lag being any better back then. Because if there was a link between AoEs and lag, then a very small AoE cap would have shown the impact difference pretty easily.

Wollust wrote: »

I am not saying at all that removing the AoE caps will solve the performance issues. The underlying issue is much bigger than this, however, I do believe that removing the AoE caps will help more than whatever they have been trying for the last 1.5 years.

Without seeing the actual code it's hard to evaluate what type of impact these extra calculations have. My best guess is, they already have a list of players sorted by range to determine if you are within the AoE's range, then applying different amounts of damage is trivial (CPU-wise) as you walk down the list, and switch to a different amount after the first "x" entries. Remember they already need to check the target's distance from you to determine if it's within the AoE's own range limitation.

Pretty sure if removing the cap altogether was going to help with lag, ZOS would have done it a long time ago. My guess is, it doesn't make any measurable difference.

But this is obviously all speculations, as who knows how ZOS's code is actually architectured.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to be clear, we never promised that the performance in Cyrodiil would be fixed with today's patch. What we did say was that we were continually working to improve performance by adding little things in at a time, which includes some items in today's patch. There's no magic bullet to fix all performance-related issues, though.

The love of the IP and the pvp (when its good) is slowly becoming insufficient to keep me playing, and when things like these are said I get nudged quite a bit further towards taking a hiatus from eso, sadly.

vyrusb23 wrote: »

Malmai wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Just to be clear, we never promised that the performance in Cyrodiil would be fixed with today's patch. What we did say was that we were continually working to improve performance by adding little things in at a time, which includes some items in today's patch. There's no magic bullet to fix all performance-related issues, though.

You shouldn't even run PvP like this its totally unplayable and i feel like im scammed 500-900 ms in Cyrodiil while questing... i just don't have words... No fixes nothing radio silence... The game was running smooth before anti bot and lightning patch just revert it back...

How would you suggest they fix the lag? Wave their magic wand and say the secret magic word?

One thing is for sure. Your stupid poll isn't gonna fix anything.

Did you not read the post?

Before AoE caps, lightning patch and the anti bot.exe on the server, there was no lag. Cyrodil use to be lag free.