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Why do people complain about Stam sorcs and Stamplars?
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Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nobody told me they were meant to be magicka, so I picked stamina race.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Dread_Knight_N7 wrote: »The aedric spear line did not have magicka in mind for templars. Crit dmg bonus, reduce damage while blocking the (in)balanced warrior only provides WEAPON damage. I can't speak for sorcs since I haven't leveled mine up yet, but switching isn't as black and white as you make it out to be
once upon a time, weapon damage was the stat that power all the weapons, as in the staffs as well. that is why there is weapon damage there, for the destro staff and the resto staff. they really need to update the passives to reflect the current way they scale damage in the game.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on February 8, 2016 8:27AM0 -
kyle.wilson✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ive got a stam sorc (was a magicka sorc until V10, but a khajiit is a bad magicka sorc) that does 10-15k single target and 30-40k in a spin to win. So they can put out good numbers. Would be better but I'm not min/maxed.
But i've lost interest in the 2h/dw builds it requires. Rolled a magicka sorc and prefer the style even though I don't hit those levels of dps.
Some of the sorcs passives are good for stam builds. But I cant think of a single ability that would make since as a stam based damage ski;l.Edited by kyle.wilson on February 8, 2016 10:53AM0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »Ive got a stam sorc (was a magicka sorc until V10, but a khajiit is a bad magicka sorc) that does 10-15k single target and 30-40k in a spin to win. So they can put out good numbers. Would be better but I'm not min/maxed.
But i've lost interest in the 2h/dw builds it requires. Rolled a magicka sorc and prefer the style even though I don't hit those levels of dps.
Some of the sorcs passives are good for stam builds. But I cant think of a single ability that would make since as a stam based damage ski;l.
Bound Armements is amazing for Stam Sorcs in PvE, i also like crit surge a lot. I also liked the dark axchange morph to get stam, but don't have any room for it on my bars
And best for DPS is DW/Bow atm.
PS: with the right equip/rotation you can double your dps...but you will still get out dpsed by magicka Sorc.Noobplar0 -
sekou_trayvond✭✭✭✭✭No complaints here. My first, and main, character is a stamplar.
I love his build diversity- loads of dps and just enough magicka for utility use. It's what I envisioned for my redguard way back on ESO Day One. Took many tweaks and iterations but round about vet level I settled in on what he is now: 2h/Archer dungeon delving machine.1 -
Didaco✭✭✭✭No thanks, cause this game is is known for the freedom it gives to player to make whatever job they want out of their classes and I'd prefer it stays like that.0 -
LoreRiley✭✭✭✭No thanks, cause this game is is known for the freedom it gives to player to make whatever job they want out of their classes and I'd prefer it stays like that.
Play how you like what with what you are given. So complaining the stam sorcs dont have stam abilities is nonsense as it wasnt implemented in the first place because sorcs were made for stamina0 -
LoreRiley✭✭✭✭
Burning embers uses magicka and deals flame (magic) damage.Dread_Knight_N7 wrote: »The aedric spear line did not have magicka in mind for templars. Crit dmg bonus, reduce damage while blocking the (in)balanced warrior only provides WEAPON damage. I can't speak for sorcs since I haven't leveled mine up yet, but switching isn't as black and white as you make it out to be
I have a templar too and I use those passphillyproduct wrote: »Are you saying nb and dk were meant to be stam based then?
They have morphs for both so they were meant as both
Forgive me if I'm wrong.. but doesn't DK only have 2 stam morphs, and a templar has 3 stam morphs? So by your logic then Stamina Templars should be a thing and stam DK's shouldn't?
Burning embers
deep breath
dragon leap
corrosive armour
Thats 4 m8
Deep breath uses magicka and deals magic damage, not sure why you think it's stamina.
Dragon Leap - Sorry didn't realize you were counting ultimates as well, since technically there is no stamina or magicka morph - they scale off your highest stat. Of course now with CP the type of damage they do matters, always forget about that.
Corrosive armor is an ultimate that deals flame damage, not sure how that is considered stamina.
I dont know the names
the fire breathing thingy that reduces armor stam
slashy fire talon thingy that reduces armor
corrosive armour-Ignores all physical resist(stam stuff)
Leap is physical stam stuff
Burning breath is a stamina ability.
Unstable flame is just weird. The skill itself costs and scales from stamina - but the damage is flame therefore the "magicka" CP tree would increase the damage further.
Dragon Leap scales off your higher stat, so if you want to call unstable flame stamina, dragon leap can be magicka and stam since it scales off magicka if that's what you have more of, but the stam CP tree increases the damage.
Corrosive armor same thing. Can scale from magicka and deals flame damage which is increased by the magicka CP tree, so that's the least stamina at all. Reduces targets armor which seems "stam" but the damage it does is actually magic based (flame).
Honestly this was all because they game had soft caps so these passives meant something as hybrids were the thing now everyone dumps into one resource0 -
Kerioko✭✭✭✭kyle.wilson wrote: »Ive got a stam sorc (was a magicka sorc until V10, but a khajiit is a bad magicka sorc) that does 10-15k single target and 30-40k in a spin to win. So they can put out good numbers. Would be better but I'm not min/maxed.
But i've lost interest in the 2h/dw builds it requires. Rolled a magicka sorc and prefer the style even though I don't hit those levels of dps.
Some of the sorcs passives are good for stam builds. But I cant think of a single ability that would make since as a stam based damage ski;l.
Bound Armements is amazing for Stam Sorcs in PvE, i also like crit surge a lot. I also liked the dark axchange morph to get stam, but don't have any room for it on my bars
And best for DPS is DW/Bow atm.
PS: with the right equip/rotation you can double your dps...but you will still get out dpsed by magicka Sorc.
If your running Bow/DW, I assume you are running a dot focused build with bow and dw dots and rapids strikes as your spam. If thats the case, crit surge is useless in this build as it does not proc on any of these skills except for the heavy weaves with rapid strikes. So in that aspect, you could trade crit surge for dark exchange and use pots for all your buffs!
I have tried this set-up on the PTS with the addition of the new dot damage passive and the addition of poison damage to Mighty. It pulls slightly more dps (22-25K) than my current 2H/bow build (20-23K), however you lose a ton of surviviability without the 15-20K heals from wrecking blow crits!Dinosaur Chicken Nuggets - Argonian mNB Tank/Heals (PVP)
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Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭For Solo or PvP i would go for DW/2Hander....but for PvE-groupconten this is the strongest setup...you don't need the heals from Surge, bc a healer would keep you alive.Noobplar0