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The Lag in Cyrodiil fixed ?
Malmai
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Will the Lag be fixed with the new patch like promised ? Because you can't just leave 500-900 ms in Azura don't you think @ZOS ? Also i want to know what players think about that will they fix it or nope ?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
No addons i have good net connection and computer that is worth 1500€... Also the lag is unreal only in this game in any other game i can play with 30ms no problemo...
@ZOS_GinaBruno
No addons i have good net connection and computer that is worth 1500€... Also the lag is unreal only in this game in any other game i can play with 30ms no problemo...
The Lag in Cyrodiil fixed ? 231 votes
Sure !
6%
16 votes
Keep on dreaming !
77%
179 votes
There is no lag i have constant 999+ ms
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36 votes
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Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep on dreaming !I heard it's bad for some ppl on PTS. WOndering if it has something to do with changes to animations. If that would be the case, RIP Cyrodiil.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU1 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep on dreaming !I left ESO with pts on disk just to check that. For me its crap. I dare to say its even worse than on live. I give this game 1 more chance - if on live its that bad im done. I really dont want to keep hoping that the next magical patch will save the day, too many months too many patches.
On the side note it seems to me there is some fundamental problem with the code and i doubt Z. has man power and/or will to finance big changes to it.5 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I believe the mailing system that is causeing a lot of problems for those testing pts.
Because you possibly got more pvp reward mail spam, that overfloods the overflow mailbox. Thus it strains the server.
When you play on a charater after making a preleveled all the way up to vet level sixteen character.
The game seems to load up stuff slower and you can see lag spikes on the ground as you run, sometimes.
I do believe the pvp rewards are one of the causes.
Before making the vet level sixteen charater everything seemed fine without seeing lag spikes.
But if you have more then 100+ most likly more in pvp rewards thats not helping you much because the system saves it and strains your conection to the server.
I think this has led to people dcing and also having longer load screens. As well as more pvp lag.
Maybe it could be the animations but most likly the mailing system.Edited by Thevampirenight on February 8, 2016 9:15AMPC NA
Please add Fangs to Vampires.4 -
ShadowDisciple✭✭✭✭Sure !You guys seriously need to get your facts straight......
LAG and FPS is NOT THE SAME...
FPS is completely CLIENT SIDE...that mean VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE GAME IS 100% ON YOUR MACHINE...
which includes but not limited to:
-animations
-non interactable assets in the world
-etc
LAG is network COMPONENT that sends and recieves various reports in "real time" that keeps track of your interactions...
when 50vs50 people confront each other in cyrodiil SERVER has to do TOONS OF CALCULATIONS..
To put it into picture...
100 PLAYERS
-all have at least 5 buffs including Boon and Food etc
-Buffs keep applying and remmoved during the fights
-AoE abilities affecting multiple ppl in fight - now server has to calculate ressistances, passives,dodges,buffs
-and tons more stuff
AND IT HAS TO BE IN 50-80MS for us to be happy....ITS FREAKING HARD...not to mention all the other back end stuff server has to do...
it has to travel crazy amount...YOU>SERVER>ENEMIES>SERVER>YOU...simplified but it has to run throug entire world and back to you in a hearthbeat (even faster)...
server technologies is a mysterious game...and i played MMO's almost exclusivelly for the last 14years and i cant find 1 mmo that has ESO's combat system + pvp enviroment....its unique...and therfore there isnt a template devs have to follow...
if you have no clue what im talking about then just go to any pve zone and walk around, and ask you mom to pull the plug on your router...
THE SECOND SHE PULLS THE PLUG YOUR LAG IS OVER 9000 (DC FROM SERVER) AND SEE IF YOUR FPS FALLS...IT WONT..CUZ NETWORK COMPONENT DOES NOT AFFECT HARDWARE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR VISUAL REPRESENTATION.
Edited by ShadowDisciple on February 8, 2016 9:50AM17 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep on dreaming !ShadowDisciple wrote: »You guys seriously need to get your facts straight......
LAG and FPS is NOT THE SAME...
FPS is completely CLIENT SIDE...that mean VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE GAME IS 100% ON YOUR MACHINE...
which includes but not liited to:
Mate give me a break - i do know difference and i clearly see high ping. Do you play on PTS?2 -
Troneon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Keep on dreaming !Performance is worse on PTS. Now it's lag and constant dips in FPS.
They have less than a month to fix it? This is ZOS....
Edited by Troneon on February 8, 2016 10:02AMPC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything5 -
petraeus1✭✭✭✭Will the Lag be fixed with the new patch like promised ?
They never promised it would be 'fixed'. If it only was that easy. There's a layering of solutions they have to apply to achieve performance improvements, so while I expect things to be better with Update 9, I know it won't be smooth as a baby's bottom all of a sudden.2 -
phillyboy7897✭✭✭✭Keep on dreaming !Jesus Christ this is bad. ZoS ur bleeding players man. Fix the lag u said its ur #1 objective. Scrap the entire patch if it adds more lag. Wtf is going onV16 Magicka Templar only
Check out my Bs on youtube for 1vX same as forum name same as gamertag: Phillyboy78973 -
sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep on dreaming !Will the Lag be fixed with the new patch like promised ?
They never promised it would be 'fixed'. If it only was that easy. There's a layering of solutions they have to apply to achieve performance improvements, so while I expect things to be better with Update 9, I know it won't be smooth as a baby's bottom all of a sudden.
How much time is needed? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? How long people like you will have to come up for miserable arguments like that?
Quality performance of the game is fundamental issue - and its been achieved by many developers before, in fact for all successful ones. Nobody sane thinks "its easy".3 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is no lag i have constant 999+ msphillyboy7897 wrote: »Jesus Christ this is bad. ZoS ur bleeding players man. Fix the lag u said its ur #1 objective. Scrap the entire patch if it adds more lag. Wtf is going on
I got a feeling that Crown Store is n01 priority.4 -
Xendyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Keep on dreaming !ZOS is running out of time and running out of chances. They've supposedly been "working on it" for over a year now with no results. They've had a huge grace period as no other MMOs have been released with the large-scale AVA we came here for.
Every time I play now I end up cussing at the load screens, unresponsive performance and crashes. It's just unacceptable.
They need to authorize overtime, new coders or whatever is necessary to make their product functional. There must be some talented engineers out there that can unravel their spaghetti or whatever is wrong in the code.
It would be the most awesome game if it would just friggin work.
Make it work ZOS.
Make it soon.
Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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teladoy✭✭✭✭✭Keep on dreaming !Lag in Cyrodiil has nothing to be with patchs, lichting patchs or etc, has to be with performance.
They said 1000 times.
So don't expect with new DLC will be fixed.2 -
hammayolettuce✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep on dreaming !Won't be any real noticeable improvements for a while. Now that we will have a 64 bit launcher and higher direct x they can start to work on other things lagging behind
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Reevster✭✭✭✭✭ShadowDisciple wrote: »You guys seriously need to get your facts straight......
if you have no clue what im talking about then just go to any pve zone and walk around, and ask you mom to pull the plug on your router...
THE SECOND SHE PULLS THE PLUG YOUR LAG IS OVER 9000 (DC FROM SERVER) AND SEE IF YOUR FPS FALLS...IT WONT..CUZ NETWORK COMPONENT DOES NOT AFFECT HARDWARE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR VISUAL REPRESENTATION.
Wait a min, I don't live with my "Mom" she is like 70 plus years old and lives on her own....
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Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is no lag i have constant 999+ msShadowDisciple wrote: »You guys seriously need to get your facts straight......
LAG and FPS is NOT THE SAME...
FPS is completely CLIENT SIDE...that mean VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE GAME IS 100% ON YOUR MACHINE...
which includes but not limited to:
-animations
-non interactable assets in the world
-etc
LAG is network COMPONENT that sends and recieves various reports in "real time" that keeps track of your interactions...
when 50vs50 people confront each other in cyrodiil SERVER has to do TOONS OF CALCULATIONS..
To put it into picture...
100 PLAYERS
-all have at least 5 buffs including Boon and Food etc
-Buffs keep applying and remmoved during the fights
-AoE abilities affecting multiple ppl in fight - now server has to calculate ressistances, passives,dodges,buffs
-and tons more stuff
AND IT HAS TO BE IN 50-80MS for us to be happy....ITS FREAKING HARD...not to mention all the other back end stuff server has to do...
it has to travel crazy amount...YOU>SERVER>ENEMIES>SERVER>YOU...simplified but it has to run throug entire world and back to you in a hearthbeat (even faster)...
server technologies is a mysterious game...and i played MMO's almost exclusivelly for the last 14years and i cant find 1 mmo that has ESO's combat system + pvp enviroment....its unique...and therfore there isnt a template devs have to follow...
if you have no clue what im talking about then just go to any pve zone and walk around, and ask you mom to pull the plug on your router...
THE SECOND SHE PULLS THE PLUG YOUR LAG IS OVER 9000 (DC FROM SERVER) AND SEE IF YOUR FPS FALLS...IT WONT..CUZ NETWORK COMPONENT DOES NOT AFFECT HARDWARE PERFORMANCE OF YOUR VISUAL REPRESENTATION.
Than don't make game like this and advertise is like that !3 -
petraeus1✭✭✭✭Will the Lag be fixed with the new patch like promised ?
They never promised it would be 'fixed'. If it only was that easy. There's a layering of solutions they have to apply to achieve performance improvements, so while I expect things to be better with Update 9, I know it won't be smooth as a baby's bottom all of a sudden.
How much time is needed? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? How long people like you will have to come up for miserable arguments like that?
Quality performance of the game is fundamental issue - and its been achieved by many developers before, in fact for all successful ones. Nobody sane thinks "its easy".
'People like me', 'miserable arguments': you mad brah? Many games fixed it, many games suffer from it. Many games isn't ESO. It's very tricky to compare one game to another and their issues, when you know the code of neither. I agree it's fundamental and annoying in PvP, I agree it should be priority. I'm just being realistic. No need for an ad hominem.0 -
ShadowDisciple✭✭✭✭Sure !ShadowDisciple wrote: »You guys seriously need to get your facts straight......
LAG and FPS is NOT THE SAME...
FPS is completely CLIENT SIDE...that mean VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE GAME IS 100% ON YOUR MACHINE...
which includes but not liited to:
Mate give me a break - i do know difference and i clearly see high ping. Do you play on PTS?
i didint call you out, and i didnt quote you..i do play PTS and PvP only cuz i dont like going to new zone etc too much because reasons..
And yes Lag is still present on PTS... but the amount of threads that equalise FPS and LAG issues are too damn high and it bugs me when people pretend to know everything and then makes some sill mistakes like that and does not want to do change opinion or learn something even when you lay out arguments and facts.0 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is no lag i have constant 999+ msWill the Lag be fixed with the new patch like promised ?
They never promised it would be 'fixed'. If it only was that easy. There's a layering of solutions they have to apply to achieve performance improvements, so while I expect things to be better with Update 9, I know it won't be smooth as a baby's bottom all of a sudden.
How much time is needed? 6 months? 1 year? 10 years? How long people like you will have to come up for miserable arguments like that?
Quality performance of the game is fundamental issue - and its been achieved by many developers before, in fact for all successful ones. Nobody sane thinks "its easy".
'People like me', 'miserable arguments': you mad brah? Many games fixed it, many games suffer from it. Many games isn't ESO. It's very tricky to compare one game to another and their issues, when you know the code of neither. I agree it's fundamental and annoying in PvP, I agree it should be priority. I'm just being realistic. No need for an ad hominem.
Its not hard to compare one game to another or one developer to another in these days because they share and copy same engines and have same moto "greed is what we need".Edited by Malmai on February 8, 2016 11:19AM3 -
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✭Keep on dreaming !Yes, it was pretty bad for me on PTS. Server pop wasn't that high either...
hopefully as testserver clients have much more bug detection software implemented it is related to them and not the game itself...spelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"1 -
ShadowDisciple✭✭✭✭Sure !
well in general, test servers are never as good as the live ones...with lag its really hard to pinpoint where the problem is..because ussualy its not only 1, but instead a series of tweaks have to be made for it to get better...sometimes even hardware does not allow it in the most fundamental lvl....
its almost like playing a game that would look like "ESO Cinematic"...its not a problem to create a game that looks like that..but its a very big problem running that game on average PC..
My worries lies in the Server/GameEngine combo they use...i honestly think they are unable to fix lag entirely but instead in the bes case scenario, only lessen it a bit.2 -
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✭Keep on dreaming !I don't think the Poll was fair, as you didn't give people the opportunity to actually say they have some faith in ZOS!
Although for Lag I'm sure anyone who thinks ZOS will fix it would be Trolls!
It's a Sad fact that ZOS asked for feedback and to engage the community, but we give feedback then hear nothing back!
A lot of people would like to see AOE caps removed, it's not known if this would fix the lag issue, but it would certainly break up the ball groups.
If it's the Netcode changes which were implemented to remove Bots from the game, it's probably about time they removed what they did, it's not like we have enough players anymore for it to be economical for the farmers to make any money out of this game. Lets be honest everything is BOP now so you don't need gold for anything....2 -
ShadowDisciple✭✭✭✭Sure !Cherryblossom wrote: »I don't think the Poll was fair, as you didn't give people the opportunity to actually say they have some faith in ZOS!
Although for Lag I'm sure anyone who thinks ZOS will fix it would be Trolls!
It's a Sad fact that ZOS asked for feedback and to engage the community, but we give feedback then hear nothing back!
A lot of people would like to see AOE caps removed, it's not known if this would fix the lag issue, but it would certainly break up the ball groups.
If it's the Netcode changes which were implemented to remove Bots from the game, it's probably about time they removed what they did, it's not like we have enough players anymore for it to be economical for the farmers to make any money out of this game. Lets be honest everything is BOP now so you don't need gold for anything....
actually i think AoE caps increase the lag dramaticaly.. because aoe caps add sooooo much more calculations server has to make...
Removing AoE caps would in my humble opinion reduce lag..dont know by how much, but i think it certainly would reduce it2 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is no lag i have constant 999+ msCherryblossom wrote: »I don't think the Poll was fair, as you didn't give people the opportunity to actually say they have some faith in ZOS!
Although for Lag I'm sure anyone who thinks ZOS will fix it would be Trolls!
It's a Sad fact that ZOS asked for feedback and to engage the community, but we give feedback then hear nothing back!
A lot of people would like to see AOE caps removed, it's not known if this would fix the lag issue, but it would certainly break up the ball groups.
If it's the Netcode changes which were implemented to remove Bots from the game, it's probably about time they removed what they did, it's not like we have enough players anymore for it to be economical for the farmers to make any money out of this game. Lets be honest everything is BOP now so you don't need gold for anything....
Agreed but one thing, i think Poll was fair and the option "Sure" shows much optimism for people who are still optimistic of course...0 -
Docmandu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, it was pretty bad for me on PTS. Server pop wasn't that high either...
Performance on PTS is quite shabby at times indeed... BUT... I'd hope the live servers have a bit better hardware behind them than a public test server that most of the time is just idling since nobody plays on it.
I want to believe!0 -
petraeus1✭✭✭✭Cherryblossom wrote: »I don't think the Poll was fair, as you didn't give people the opportunity to actually say they have some faith in ZOS!
Although for Lag I'm sure anyone who thinks ZOS will fix it would be Trolls!
It's a Sad fact that ZOS asked for feedback and to engage the community, but we give feedback then hear nothing back!
A lot of people would like to see AOE caps removed, it's not known if this would fix the lag issue, but it would certainly break up the ball groups.
If it's the Netcode changes which were implemented to remove Bots from the game, it's probably about time they removed what they did, it's not like we have enough players anymore for it to be economical for the farmers to make any money out of this game. Lets be honest everything is BOP now so you don't need gold for anything....
Agreed but one thing, i think Poll was fair and the option "Sure" shows much optimism for people who are still optimistic of course...
'Sure' says: it will be fixed. I'm of a mind it won't be fixed, but 'Keep on dreaming' is rather negative, as if performance improvements are an unattainable dream for ZOS. I'm optimistic there will be improvements, that it's attainable, but realistic enough to not vote 'Sure'. Hence I didn't vote.0 -
Cherryblossom✭✭✭✭✭
✭Keep on dreaming !Cherryblossom wrote: »I don't think the Poll was fair, as you didn't give people the opportunity to actually say they have some faith in ZOS!
Although for Lag I'm sure anyone who thinks ZOS will fix it would be Trolls!
It's a Sad fact that ZOS asked for feedback and to engage the community, but we give feedback then hear nothing back!
A lot of people would like to see AOE caps removed, it's not known if this would fix the lag issue, but it would certainly break up the ball groups.
If it's the Netcode changes which were implemented to remove Bots from the game, it's probably about time they removed what they did, it's not like we have enough players anymore for it to be economical for the farmers to make any money out of this game. Lets be honest everything is BOP now so you don't need gold for anything....
Agreed but one thing, i think Poll was fair and the option "Sure" shows much optimism for people who are still optimistic of course...
Nope it was Sure! suggesting that this is a Sarcastic Sure rather than an upbeat Sure...
There are people who are Optimistic in this game, your kidding me right!0 -
Malmai✭✭✭✭✭
✭There is no lag i have constant 999+ msCherryblossom wrote: »Cherryblossom wrote: »I don't think the Poll was fair, as you didn't give people the opportunity to actually say they have some faith in ZOS!
Although for Lag I'm sure anyone who thinks ZOS will fix it would be Trolls!
It's a Sad fact that ZOS asked for feedback and to engage the community, but we give feedback then hear nothing back!
A lot of people would like to see AOE caps removed, it's not known if this would fix the lag issue, but it would certainly break up the ball groups.
If it's the Netcode changes which were implemented to remove Bots from the game, it's probably about time they removed what they did, it's not like we have enough players anymore for it to be economical for the farmers to make any money out of this game. Lets be honest everything is BOP now so you don't need gold for anything....
Agreed but one thing, i think Poll was fair and the option "Sure" shows much optimism for people who are still optimistic of course...
Nope it was Sure! suggesting that this is a Sarcastic Sure rather than an upbeat Sure...
There are people who are Optimistic in this game, your kidding me right!
Your thoughts are irrelevant "Sure" is not sarcastic it means "Yes" maybe the problem lies within you, maybe you take everything as sarcasm or maybe you are just sarcastic person...Edited by Malmai on February 8, 2016 12:05PM1 -
Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭There is no lag i have constant 999+ msRemember when ZOS said that they "like the game the way it is now"?
I wonder if that includes the lag?"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
Tryxus - Guardian of the Green - Warden - PC/EU4