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Meteor Skill
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Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭CrowsDescend wrote: »I actually like this change. Meteor's being reflected is just dumb, as much as I enjoy reflecting them; it's dumb.
It's not dumb considering how strong of an ultimate it is. If it's not reflectable, then it should also be dodgeable. If this goes live then you can just hit someone with it, end of story. No getting out of it, only getting out of the DoT component. It's way too strong like this.
You can block it though... and reduce most of its damage done to you, unless of course you stand in Ice Comet's AOE--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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✭✭✭✭✭CrowsDescend wrote: »CrowsDescend wrote: »I actually like this change. Meteor's being reflected is just dumb, as much as I enjoy reflecting them; it's dumb.
It's not dumb considering how strong of an ultimate it is. If it's not reflectable, then it should also be dodgeable. If this goes live then you can just hit someone with it, end of story. No getting out of it, only getting out of the DoT component. It's way too strong like this.
You can block it though... and reduce most of its damage done to you, unless of course you stand in Ice Comet's AOE
I think you need to do a more thorough reading of the effect. All levels and morphs of the ability put a DoT on the ground. If all it did was put a great dot on the ground, no biggie, but it does impact and CC and the DoT on all levels and morphs of the skills. Blocking isn't the same degree of counter as dodge rolling/not standing in/not getting hit by any of the other ultimates in the game. Everything else I can think of can be avoided, or at most you get a couple ticks of damage from it, if you're savvy and you really don't want to be hit by it. But Meteor can't be dodged, has the CC, is AoE, follows players around, and can be done from the safety of range. Even if they've fixed the fall damage, that's way too much! If it doesn't stay reflectable, it should at least be in line with other ultimates in terms of someone's ability to avoid them.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They need to make meteor into a ground effect, not a single target. Meteor should be an aoe. if you get out of the red circle, you dodge the meteor.
The fact that a meteor follows you and has to hit you no matter what is ridiculous.3 -
MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭My [snip] moment was when I saw this:
[edited for profanity bypass]Lord Warden: Increased the proc chance of this item set to a 50% chance when you take damage, from 6%.Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 31, 2025 5:27PMI have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
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What you really mean is GoodBye S&B sorcs.
That's actually a good thing. It offered little utility other than stance.
@Xeven
Well, while that might hold some weight you could also pump your hardened ward a bit higher on a S&B build. But, I don't think it's ever a good thing to kill build diversity. I don't want to play another homogenized MMO.
Welcome back BTW, haven't seen you around in a bit.Edited by Makkir on February 4, 2016 5:47PM1 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭CrowsDescend wrote: »I actually like this change. Meteor's being reflected is just dumb, as much as I enjoy reflecting them; it's dumb.
It's not dumb considering how strong of an ultimate it is. If it's not reflectable, then it should also be dodgeable. If this goes live then you can just hit someone with it, end of story. No getting out of it, only getting out of the DoT component. It's way too strong like this.
I am sorry but are you unable to block for some reason?0 -
Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Chalman on PTS was lit up with ice comets and Skoria procs. Hello lag, my dear friend.1 -
Weberda✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that probably the reason for non-reflectible meteor is to reduce server calculations and hence lag. We need to remember that Wheeler has given a lot of lip service to improving game performance in PvP and stated several times there would be things in the incremental patches to achieve it.Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
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Jimboo84✭✭✭I'm very happy with this change.Jimerio / Magicka Sorcerer / PvP & PvE / Master Crafter(Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Alchemy, Provisioning, Enchanting, Clothing) / DD & Heal / CP560+ / Aldmeri Dominion / PC / EU0 -
myrrrorb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I think it was to be able to reflect a meteor and then reflect it back. Now they are both gone :-(
They were a laggy mess anyway I suppose.
Curious why they chose Azura as the no CP war zone.
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that probably the reason for non-reflectible meteor is to reduce server calculations and hence lag. We need to remember that Wheeler has given a lot of lip service to improving game performance in PvP and stated several times there would be things in the incremental patches to achieve it.
Lol if that's the case then he is making it worse. I was watching the fights at Chalman on PTS today and there were ice comets and Valykn Skoria procs everywhere. People started noticing lag there - imagine if that was on Live.2 -
Weberda✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that probably the reason for non-reflectible meteor is to reduce server calculations and hence lag. We need to remember that Wheeler has given a lot of lip service to improving game performance in PvP and stated several times there would be things in the incremental patches to achieve it.
Lol if that's the case then he is making it worse. I was watching the fights at Chalman on PTS today and there were ice comets and Valykn Skoria procs everywhere. People started noticing lag there - imagine if that was on Live.
Well many times their solutions have been just the opposite so I won't be surprised if we go back two patches or so where meteor was bringing down entire campaigns. You would think with all the problems that the "skill" has caused they would either eliminate it entirely or do a massive nerf/redesign. Strange company ZOS is.Fernwood, EP Haderus NA
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Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
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What you really mean is GoodBye S&B sorcs.
That's actually a good thing. It offered little utility other than stance.
@Xeven
Well, while that might hold some weight you could also pump your hardened ward a bit higher on a S&B build. But, I don't think it's ever a good thing to kill build diversity. I don't want to play another homogenized MMO.
Welcome back BTW, haven't seen you around in a bit.
@Makkir
I guess what I meant to say is that it was a good thing for me. I ran S&B on my back bar with stance so that I could use meteor effectively as my main ultimate. I don't have to do that anymore so that is one thing I am happy with. I would love to see more build diversity but unfortunately I did not see any new Thieves Guild gear that would be extremely useful to a magicka sorcerer.
Thanks. Glad to be back
Edited by Xeven on February 4, 2016 8:53PM0 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
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What you really mean is GoodBye S&B sorcs.
That's actually a good thing. It offered little utility other than stance.
@Xeven
Well, while that might hold some weight you could also pump your hardened ward a bit higher on a S&B build. But, I don't think it's ever a good thing to kill build diversity. I don't want to play another homogenized MMO.
Welcome back BTW, haven't seen you around in a bit.
@Makkir
I guess what I meant to say is that it was a good thing for me. I ran S&B on my back bar with stance so that I could use meteor effectively as my main ultimate. I don't have to do that anymore so that is one thing I am happy with. I would love to see more build diversity but unfortunately I did not see any new Thieves Guild gear that would be extremely useful to a magicka sorcerer.
Thanks. Glad to be back
You're right, except for the crazed alchemist set...hah I so want to find a build to make that work.0 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.PC NA
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.
Why would anyone use it then?PS4 EU DC
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nordsavage✭✭✭✭✭I agree with this change. You cannot reflect other ultimates so why should meteor be any different.I didn't choose tank life, tank life chose me.0 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.
Why would anyone use it then?
Well, for one its easy to get ult, I think with some abilties and ult bar can be filled up fast, by making it such a high cost for a very good abilty it would help curb its use from zergs. Which would also cause lots of lag. I think.PC NA
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Meteor is already the most overused ultimate since it does what every other ultimate in the game can do only much better. yet its intense damage (and fall damage
) ability to CC, snare (ice)or charge ANOTHER ultimate (star) came with the risk of being reflected without this risk no other ultimate will be used in PvP I can see it now you use veil of blades you get kicked from the group for not using a meteor... Edited by RAGUNAnoOne on February 5, 2016 12:19AMPS4 NA
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thevampirenight wrote: »They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.
PLEASE no more PvE nerfs just because of PvPEdited by RAGUNAnoOne on February 5, 2016 12:21AMPS4 NA
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✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.
PLEASE no more PvE nerfs just because of PvP
This is the reason I'm getting irritated at the PvPers saying it needs to get nerfed or removed; for single target boss fights on my DK it's needed for the high fire damage, as Standard is too expensive.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
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Try calling down a meteor IRL. How does one do that? Do you just whistle at it?
use chains?
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Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.
PLEASE no more PvE nerfs just because of PvP
Well they could make that cost only happen in cyridill, but in pve zones it would be its normal cost.PC NA
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MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seriously though, people are going to be complaining about DK Standard again, now that Magicka DK's are pretty awesome. Chuck down Eruption for a snare then Standard, spam Talons etc.
It would be nice if there was a hard counter to Meteor though.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭My [snip] moment was when I saw this:Lord Warden: Increased the proc chance of this item set to a 50% chance when you take damage, from 6%.
Now put that on Skoria and we're swimming in buttah!
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 31, 2025 5:28PMMember of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20130 -
RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Thevampirenight wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They could make meteor cost a bunch more ultimate then it is, maybe say like five hundred ult requirement.
To prevent people spamming it.
PLEASE no more PvE nerfs just because of PvP
Well they could make that cost only happen in cyridill, but in pve zones it would be its normal cost.
Agreed I mean they nerf chains specifically in cyrodiil through a debuff why not use this logic for all PvP specific nerfs to keep it out of PvEPS4 NA
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