FireCowCommando wrote: »

Live: Your running away from a player whos sprinting at 30% speed, and you have the 40% major expedition buff. You are creating distance between you two.

PTS: Your running away from a player whos spiriting at 40% speed, and you have the 30% major expedition buff. You are losing distance between you two.

Think of it in terms of offense as well, you can catch up relatively easily, or stay on top of an opponent who, without major expedition, could never escape.

Basically, anyone without major expedition is gaining 10% speed on anyone with major expedition. It is a nerf to Major Expedition. How has there not been more complaints about this? Any build that relies on being mobile (stam Sorc, bow builds, mag nb) take a bit hit.

Also, a nerf to those who use it in stealth. Magica NB for instance. Reduced major expedition, no buff to sneak speed.

I am still absolutely horrified by this change and cannot believe anyone is so short-sighted that they approve of this change. The only thing I can think of is that they play this game SO little that they are not familiar with all the senseless downtime, from running from a WS that's parked nowhere near the town for Wrothgar dailies (the solo ones) to trying to get across Cyrodiil to, well, anywhere. I almost always use Maneuvers at all times. Is it that there's people who have only ever played with Templars or DKs without dual wield nor even the very first PvP skill (Maneuvers) and don't know how much better literally every day of playing is when traveling quickly?

It's like saying, "Hey, ZoS, good job putting Wayshrines in really inconvenient places! But there's just TOO many of them! I wish there were some way to experience trash content I don't plan on interacting with en route to the few things left to do for people who have already played more than a month!."

I am a VERY patient person, but I'm not stupid. There's no reason to eat up even more of my time in transit. Before the (awful) Major Expedition change my stam sorc (back when that was a ludicrously gimped class) could make it from one corner of Cyrodiil to the other in 9 minutes. There is no combat benefit to these buffs, really. If there were everyone would wear 3 pieces of Vicious Ophidian for the +75% movement boost upon enemy death (in reality, on the death of anything killed by a Group member) which makes you wiz around barely in control. But have any of you, even once, seen this happen in combat, let alone Cyrodiil? Of course not.

And to the people who complain that they're affected by Maneuvers in towns because it makes them take their weapons out: use the add-on No Spin. It lets you look at your Inventory and do all sorts of things without leaving emote animation. You'd think every RPer would already have this add-on anyway.

Of all the idiotic complaints I've seen unthinkingly spewed on these forums the anti-having fun/anti-enjoyment/anti-speed buff argument is easily the most short sighted and selfish. I honestly can't believe there's even one single person, even trolls, who actually think this way.