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Are You Re-Rolling Your Templar?

  • sirrmattus
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    Im just very confused why people are so upset about the news. I honestly think my dunmer templar will be much more op than he is now.. *** SAKES GUYS, tham and elemental will be in 1 cp allocation. that is amazing news
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  • Totalitarian
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Too much work to do that.

    Not as if I even used Breath of Light that much other than on myself.

    Rapid Regen and Grand Healing are so much cheaper.
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  • Sallington
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Islyn wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    They just made Templars SOOOOO much better as a whole. People whining over this BoL hitting one less 'target' is hilarious.

    Love always,
    Templar since beta

    It's not about only BOL fgs.

    Look at what people are actually saying.

    The only real nerf worth mentioning is the focused healing passive. Everything else is a buff. The buffs to Total Dark and Unstable Core are borderline OP.

    EDIT:

    Nova - Buffed
    Solar Flare - Buffed
    Radiant Destruction - Fixed and Buffed
    Vampire's Bane - Buffed
    Raidiant Aura - Buffed
    Edited by Sallington on February 4, 2016 5:08PM
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  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    Sallington wrote: »
    The only real nerf worth mentioning is the focused healing passive.

    The major mending one? Doesn't that grant 30% more healing done?

    I'd call that a buff.
  • Sallington
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Sallington wrote: »
    The only real nerf worth mentioning is the focused healing passive.

    The major mending one? Doesn't that grant 30% more healing done?

    I'd call that a buff.

    Is that what mending does? I might have confused that with the healing taken buff. If you're right then yeah, definitely not a nerf.
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  • Talyena
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Sallington wrote: »
    Nova - Buffed
    Solar Flare - Buffed
    Radiant Destruction - Fixed and Buffed
    Vampire's Bane - Buffed
    Raidiant Aura - Buffed

    I saw the radiant destruction fix, but where was the buff? I think it actually got nerfed by changes to enduring rays making it take longer to do the same amount of damage (2.8 instead of 2.3 seconds).
  • Sallington
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Talyena wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Nova - Buffed
    Solar Flare - Buffed
    Radiant Destruction - Fixed and Buffed
    Vampire's Bane - Buffed
    Raidiant Aura - Buffed

    I saw the radiant destruction fix, but where was the buff? I think it actually got nerfed by changes to enduring rays making it take longer to do the same amount of damage (2.8 instead of 2.3 seconds).

    I considered that change to dodge roll a buff, but could be considered a fix itself.
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  • cazlonb16_ESO
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    Looking forward to testing him on the PTS. This Templar is gonna hurt in PvP.

    Until Dark Flare gets nerfed and you're sitting there same as before just with nerfed BoL and purge.
    Edited by cazlonb16_ESO on February 4, 2016 5:37PM
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Not a big fan of ZOS making major changes that completely change builds. Especially as frequently as I have seen in this game. But the Templar is my main: I have most of the achievements / skill points / skill morphs unlocked.

    I will probably shelf him for a while and work on my NB tank. Which got nerfed QUITE A Bit St well...
  • Sempars
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    You going
    Not a big fan of ZOS making major changes that completely change builds. Especially as frequently as I have seen in this game. But the Templar is my main: I have most of the achievements / skill points / skill morphs unlocked.

    I will probably shelf him for a while and work on my NB tank. Which got nerfed QUITE A Bit St well...

    You going Shelf your Templar cause he got some great buffs and lost healing 1 person from BOL??? >_> little over dramatic don't you think?
  • Iove
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    Undecided.
    If these changes do go ahead, I'm gonna go play another mmo :)
  • WhitePawPrints
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    This is far from the first time I had to respec my templar. Templars were seriously underperforming at release, and each patch with Templar changes I've had to change something about his specs.
  • Talyena
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Found another nerf not mentioned in the patch notes. The last line of Puncturing Sweep IV on PTS reads "Also heals you for 35% of the damage done." On live it is 40%.
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Sempars wrote: »
    You going
    Not a big fan of ZOS making major changes that completely change builds. Especially as frequently as I have seen in this game. But the Templar is my main: I have most of the achievements / skill points / skill morphs unlocked.

    I will probably shelf him for a while and work on my NB tank. Which got nerfed QUITE A Bit St well...

    You going Shelf your Templar cause he got some great buffs and lost healing 1 person from BOL??? >_> little over dramatic don't you think?

    Sorry, wasn't specific enough. There is a lot of changes to Templar abilities. I usually use the other morph. But with all of these changes it will greatly impact which skills / morphs / gear to use to make a good synergistic use of everything. Just spent a ton gearing up vr16 gold gear and don't want to try out a bunch of combinations.

    So I will wait till the theory crafters play with it a bit. Then try my hand at variations of their setups to fit my style. And finally gear up again.

    Till then easier to just play a new-ish toon that is figuring things out for the first time. For me it's easier to learn as you level up.
  • me_ming
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Nope, but I am DPSing now and just off-healing.
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Yes -- I'm re-rolling my Templar.
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    class reroll for templar only would only show howmutch ZoS hates the templar
    I do not think that ZOS hates Templars.
    ZOS just seems to like the other classes more - like their customers do.
    btw: ZOS also changed the overall tone of the game according to a male audience

    I talked about this with female players lately. ESO was like TES an open, role playing game where people could play the way the like. Since mid 2015, we see a transition to a darker, criminal style with a ganking DLC, a thieves DLC and next a hitman DLC.

    This way it looks like ESO is becoming a kind of TES GTA.
    With all that criminal DLC, I hardly can continue this game as a role player and Templar healer.

    It is probably time to give up now, accept the reality and become a dark Sorc or NB.
    ZOS could facilitate the change to the dark ages with a class change, please.

    I think you meant people with with psycho mentality seeing how I am a man, and hate anything that promotes ganking/camping.

  • AOECAPS
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    Eh I'll try out the changes more than likely start using my Stam sorc for pvp or my magicka DK
    I love playing as a Templar but really hate that for so long we have had to use weapon class skills because our skills were so bleh and wonky. Hopefully they fixed it but doubt it
  • Artjuh90
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Sallington wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    They just made Templars SOOOOO much better as a whole. People whining over this BoL hitting one less 'target' is hilarious.

    Love always,
    Templar since beta

    It's not about only BOL fgs.

    Look at what people are actually saying.

    The only real nerf worth mentioning is the focused healing passive. Everything else is a buff. The buffs to Total Dark and Unstable Core are borderline OP.

    EDIT:

    Nova - Buffed
    Solar Flare - Buffed
    Radiant Destruction - Fixed and Buffed
    Vampire's Bane - Buffed
    Raidiant Aura - Buffed

    Nova -> any aoe or several seconds in a set area not good in PvP
    Solar flare -> not buffed both morphs dark flare is but has a long cast time so not great in PvP
    Radient destruction -> still a 3 second channel which is quite long in PvP wich trives on burst. fix was necesary
    vampire bane -> same said above doesn't really matter if it 7 or 9 seconds in a burst meta
    Radiant aura -> only a buff most magicka users use anyway so don't really need a aditional buf from a templar.
    Total dark/unstable core -> ok a good buff
    losing -> 1 Usefullness of the main reason people use a who skill tree BoL
    30% of healing to others.
    and actually they said they would be buffing templar with this patch XD
  • blabafat
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    I love the changes
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  • Sempars
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    They just made Templars SOOOOO much better as a whole. People whining over this BoL hitting one less 'target' is hilarious.

    Love always,
    Templar since beta

    It's not about only BOL fgs.

    Look at what people are actually saying.

    The only real nerf worth mentioning is the focused healing passive. Everything else is a buff. The buffs to Total Dark and Unstable Core are borderline OP.

    EDIT:

    Nova - Buffed
    Solar Flare - Buffed
    Radiant Destruction - Fixed and Buffed
    Vampire's Bane - Buffed
    Raidiant Aura - Buffed

    Nova -> any aoe or several seconds in a set area not good in PvP
    Solar flare -> not buffed both morphs dark flare is but has a long cast time so not great in PvP
    Radient destruction -> still a 3 second channel which is quite long in PvP wich trives on burst. fix was necesary
    vampire bane -> same said above doesn't really matter if it 7 or 9 seconds in a burst meta
    Radiant aura -> only a buff most magicka users use anyway so don't really need a aditional buf from a templar.
    Total dark/unstable core -> ok a good buff
    losing -> 1 Usefullness of the main reason people use a who skill tree BoL
    30% of healing to others.
    and actually they said they would be buffing templar with this patch XD

    Dark Flare is amazing skill causes Major Defile a must in PVP
    Vampire Bane amazing skill help us build crit
  • LBxFinalDeath
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    Gotta go Mag Sorc to keep up with the cool kids.
  • Alucardo
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    I don't play Templar, but the ones I met on PTS were loving it. Their dark flares were melting faces, and stamplars were slaying while healing like gods.
    Magicka DKs seemed really happy too for the most part. Looks like we got some decent changes.
  • Artjuh90
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    Sempars wrote: »
    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    Islyn wrote: »
    Sallington wrote: »
    They just made Templars SOOOOO much better as a whole. People whining over this BoL hitting one less 'target' is hilarious.

    Love always,
    Templar since beta

    It's not about only BOL fgs.

    Look at what people are actually saying.

    The only real nerf worth mentioning is the focused healing passive. Everything else is a buff. The buffs to Total Dark and Unstable Core are borderline OP.

    EDIT:

    Nova - Buffed
    Solar Flare - Buffed
    Radiant Destruction - Fixed and Buffed
    Vampire's Bane - Buffed
    Raidiant Aura - Buffed

    Nova -> any aoe or several seconds in a set area not good in PvP
    Solar flare -> not buffed both morphs dark flare is but has a long cast time so not great in PvP
    Radient destruction -> still a 3 second channel which is quite long in PvP wich trives on burst. fix was necesary
    vampire bane -> same said above doesn't really matter if it 7 or 9 seconds in a burst meta
    Radiant aura -> only a buff most magicka users use anyway so don't really need a aditional buf from a templar.
    Total dark/unstable core -> ok a good buff
    losing -> 1 Usefullness of the main reason people use a who skill tree BoL
    30% of healing to others.
    and actually they said they would be buffing templar with this patch XD

    Dark Flare is amazing skill causes Major Defile a must in PVP
    Vampire Bane amazing skill help us build crit

    didn't say dark flare was bad i said that buff was a actual buff in PvP
    and for vamp bane didn't mean the skill was bad only the increase of the length of the spell isn't really that usefull in PvP
    Edited by Artjuh90 on February 4, 2016 6:43PM
  • gw2only1b14_ESO
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    Xellos77 wrote: »
    Reroll?

    No.

    Try replace ESO entirely. To be fair, though, I haven't played in weeks and don't care to. I still like to see what's going on with the forums and what atrocities are being introduced instead of real MMO stuff.

    Yep my thoughts as well

    Crowfall, BlackDesert and Gloria Victus all doing them now may throw more funds to them soon enough
  • gw2only1b14_ESO
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    oibam wrote: »
    now: healer -> after patch: no healer (sorc and dk will be better healers), i go for dps

    Kinda funny how there funneling everyone that way isnt it...
  • Holy-Dope
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    Undecided.
    Kahl_dur wrote: »
    Templars: we've been waiting for changes. After learning what's planned for us in 2.3.0, will you keep your class or re-roll your Templar?

    I'm rolling a sorc now...
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  • cote-bmsb16_ESO
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    Yes -- I'm re-rolling my Templar.
    I'll probably just park my templar healer in RawlKha, and only log in to make gear for my magicka Sorc or my baby DK. But then again, who knows might just play a different game. ZOS is leaving a terrible taste in my mouth.
  • Inarre
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    No -- I'm keeping my Templar.
    respeccing skills for sure though
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Considering the ongoing Templar nerfs, I finally would reroll now.
    I refused so long to do this, but enough is enough.

    However, I simply cannot invest months again for a character to
    - collect all sky shards
    - collect all mage books
    - collect all guild skills
    - collect all AW skills
    etc.

    Because the Templar class is not at all what it used to be,
    ZOS, please grant us Templars a free class change
    where we can keep all our points and achievements.

    Better a swift change than a grind nightmare or quitting the game.

    It would be better if they just acknowledged the elephant in the room for once.
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    I have a VR16 DK, VR16Temp, VR16 NB, and 2 VR16 Sorcs. Could roll another VR16 but why? I am all for tweaks and buffs for Templars, but mostly people seem upset about BoL and make it sound worse than it is. The real issue for Templar healing is that ZOS can't seem to see the reason why few players want Healing Ritual & morphs or Honor the Dead. Breath of Life shouldn't have to carry the whole Templar healing skill line.

    This is why Restoring Light should be a hell of a lot more interesting, IE: It should be like Earthen Heart or Siphoning. If Breath of Life completely blows the balance of the whole class, and they can't properly compensate for that, then they really need to rethink things. It is also blatantly obvious that if we can not be mobile at all, we need to have abilities and skills that compensate for that fact. Blinding Flashes helped in that manner, and if Eclipse actually worked or if they gave us a dragon scales type of skill we might actually be able to fill that stand and fight role. As it is you have to do a lot of running around trees, and simply out-defense your enemy for days til their hands cramp up.
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