you CANNOT make molag kena and lord warden purchasable for AP/GOLD

Bfish22090 · February 2016

you cant make this possible because then players who didnt purchase the imperial city will have access to kena/lord warden
i have spent hours farming these sets and it wouldnt be fair

Xellos77 · February 2016

You know what's not fair? Going to college and making less money than before you went. Now, you just have a nice chunk of change to pay back the government for your efforts.

This? Eh. It happens. Just like "limited time only" doesn't mean it will never be back.

Islyn · February 2016

Bfish22090 wrote: »

you cant make this possible because then players who didnt purchase the imperial city will have access to kena/lord warden
i have spent hours farming these sets and it wouldnt be fair

LOL yeah they'll have to buy it with crowns instead xD

Also, Many of us have spent HOURS farming the others before IC existed, but that seems to be perfectly OK?

I could see it not being fair to people who didn't buy the DLC, but as for all your hours - I understand and feel for you having been there done that - but no one cares.

Alorier · February 2016

Not being fair was this happening in the first place but it is so time to get on board and not dictate what can and not be sold in if

Ragnaroek93 · February 2016

Not being fair is how rewarding PvE is compared to PvP.

Aleraon · February 2016

I actually don't mind this as, after having done a few hundred runs on vwgt on multiple toons, I've still to get a single head piece. I've not even had a well fitted one so at least now I'll at least be able to acquire one and test it out.

yodased · February 2016

You know whats not fair? You had the opportunity to get this gear by grinding before I had the opportunity to purchase it.

I had to grind out something called a 'job' in 'real life' to get the 'experience' I need to 'purchase' this goods.

So not fair, I wish I could spend the hours grinding away to get the gear you have, but I guess I will take the opportunity to you know, eat and things, instead.

Not fair is you have the hours available to grind out the hundreds and hundreds of hours needed to get some piece of gear while I have to work all day.

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Artjuh90 · February 2016

so you want the DLC's to be necesary to be on par. you know that's a P2W mechanic right

Purdomination33 · February 2016

The sets will still be crazy expensive and unattainable for vast majority of players. A few hundred thousand AP points may be nothing to OP but majority of players take weeks to amass that much. Same goes for gold.

I understand your complaint if one could purchase gold using real money (I for one would absolutely buy it! yay having a career) but since you cannot purchase gold that means you still have to somehow 'grind it out'.

This is simply a different means to the same end. Those of us who cannot spend 6 hours in a dungeon can save up the gold over a few months with a goal in mind.

ScruffyWhiskers · February 2016

/Best Clint Eastwood Voice/

Fair's got nothing to do with it.

Or

/Best Dread Pirate Roberts Voice/

"Who ever said life is fair? Where is that written? Life isn't always fair."
"Life is pain, your highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something."

HebrewHatchet · February 2016

I don't get it. The way gear always works in games like this is that the new gear is both above the power curve, and exclusive for a limited amount of time. After that, new gear comes out that shifts the power curve, and easier avenues to get the previously "bleeding edge" gear are introduced. If you got the set by now, you rode the OP wave. A new wave is coming.

Bfish22090 · February 2016

Purdomination33 wrote: »

The sets will still be crazy expensive and unattainable for vast majority of players. A few hundred thousand AP points may be nothing to OP but majority of players take weeks to amass that much. Same goes for gold.

I understand your complaint if one could purchase gold using real money (I for one would absolutely buy it! yay having a career) but since you cannot purchase gold that means you still have to somehow 'grind it out'.

This is simply a different means to the same end. Those of us who cannot spend 6 hours in a dungeon can save up the gold over a few months with a goal in mind.

100k gold and 200k ap is what they reselling for currently
you can get 100k gold EASILY in one day from stealing

Artjuh90 · February 2016

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Purdomination33 wrote: »

The sets will still be crazy expensive and unattainable for vast majority of players. A few hundred thousand AP points may be nothing to OP but majority of players take weeks to amass that much. Same goes for gold.

I understand your complaint if one could purchase gold using real money (I for one would absolutely buy it! yay having a career) but since you cannot purchase gold that means you still have to somehow 'grind it out'.

This is simply a different means to the same end. Those of us who cannot spend 6 hours in a dungeon can save up the gold over a few months with a goal in mind.

100k gold and 200k ap is what they reselling for currently
you can get 100k gold EASILY in one day from stealing

250 x 150 = 37500 so would take you 3 days only selling the blue items. so not easy

sirrmattus · February 2016

i agree with op. why should we have to pay for dlc that provides these gears, if now you can get them without having the dlc

Resipsa131 · February 2016

Conjures President Obama voice

"If you've gotten a Molag Kena Helm you didn't get that on your own, I'm always suprised by players that think they got it because they're so smart, there are alot of smart players out there! You didn't work harder than them at getting your helm, let me tell you something there are a lot of hard working players out there with broken builds. If you've gotten that helm someone gave you some help. You didn't farm White-Gold Tower yourself someone else made that happen."

Darkonflare15 · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Purdomination33 wrote: »

The sets will still be crazy expensive and unattainable for vast majority of players. A few hundred thousand AP points may be nothing to OP but majority of players take weeks to amass that much. Same goes for gold.

I understand your complaint if one could purchase gold using real money (I for one would absolutely buy it! yay having a career) but since you cannot purchase gold that means you still have to somehow 'grind it out'.

This is simply a different means to the same end. Those of us who cannot spend 6 hours in a dungeon can save up the gold over a few months with a goal in mind.

100k gold and 200k ap is what they reselling for currently
you can get 100k gold EASILY in one day from stealing

250 x 150 = 37500 so would take you 3 days only selling the blue items. so not easy

Yeah you do that much money stealing and selling items to fences right now but I wonder how much you will get with the new dlc.

Islyn · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

so you want the DLC's to be necesary to be on par. you know that's a P2W mechanic right

Except ZOS already set that standard by making those dungeons available to DLC only.

Although, someone told me you can still go to JUST THE DUNGEONS on free accounts.

Moglijuana · February 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

i agree with op. why should we have to pay for dlc that provides these gears, if now you can get them without having the dlc

Limiting gear to DLC is pay to win. The only benefit players should get from DLC is access to new areas/dungeons. THAT'S fair. Everyone should be on a level playing field...Besides, grinding AP is MUCHHHH harder (if your're bad) than doing those lame dungeons no one cares about.

oibam · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

so you want the DLC's to be necesary to be on par. you know that's a P2W mechanic right

If you want to farm it, you would have to buy that DLC too...

Draxys · February 2016

lol

sirrmattus · February 2016

Moglijuana wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

i agree with op. why should we have to pay for dlc that provides these gears, if now you can get them without having the dlc

Limiting gear to DLC is pay to win. The only benefit players should get from DLC is access to new areas/dungeons. THAT'S fair. Everyone should be on a level playing field...Besides, grinding AP is MUCHHHH harder (if your're bad) than doing those lame dungeons no one cares about.

bull *** ***.. i have done vwgt 100 times at least. ive gotten 1 shoulder and that was from my gold key. i accidentally decon my shoulder, now i hav nothing. so all that time and struggles learning vwgt, and now its just purchasable? wtf

Artjuh90 · February 2016

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Purdomination33 wrote: »

The sets will still be crazy expensive and unattainable for vast majority of players. A few hundred thousand AP points may be nothing to OP but majority of players take weeks to amass that much. Same goes for gold.

I understand your complaint if one could purchase gold using real money (I for one would absolutely buy it! yay having a career) but since you cannot purchase gold that means you still have to somehow 'grind it out'.

This is simply a different means to the same end. Those of us who cannot spend 6 hours in a dungeon can save up the gold over a few months with a goal in mind.

100k gold and 200k ap is what they reselling for currently
you can get 100k gold EASILY in one day from stealing

250 x 150 = 37500 so would take you 3 days only selling the blue items. so not easy

Yeah you do that much money stealing and selling items to fences right now but I wonder how much you will get with the new dlc.

probably just the same. i see no reason for ZoS to increase this. and you don't farm 150 blue items that fast though. will take you some hours

Moglijuana wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

i agree with op. why should we have to pay for dlc that provides these gears, if now you can get them without having the dlc

Limiting gear to DLC is pay to win. The only benefit players should get from DLC is access to new areas/dungeons. THAT'S fair. Everyone should be on a level playing field...Besides, grinding AP is MUCHHHH harder (if your're bad) than doing those lame dungeons no one cares about.

spamming mutagen is concidered hard now these days

timidobserver · February 2016

At this point they could give lord warden away for free as a reward to anyone that downloads the game.

Rex-Umbra · February 2016

Should of just had all items BOE

Reevster · February 2016

Its a MMO , this is how things work, The best gear today is tomorrows poor mans gear, new expansions bring out new and better gear for harder mobs and group dungeons/raids etc etc etc etc......... has always been this way, not sure why some are surprised.

This gear will take up space in players banks or on alts to use for laughs at some point.

Ruben · February 2016

The vendor does not sell head pieces, only shoulders. You can get those without buying the DLC by doing daily normal and veteran dungeons.

Very Late Edit: I think I was wrong. I'll leave the original message up for everyone to see my mistake.

ku5h · February 2016

Bfish22090 wrote: »

you cant make this possible because then players who didnt purchase the imperial city will have access to kena/lord warden
i have spent hours farming these sets and it wouldnt be fair

Omg dude, so what if someone didnt buy DLC almost a year old. You must be a very greedy person. And yea Blood Spawn, Engi Guardian and Nerieneth must also be excluded because i spent days farming them, so they cant possibly put that on sale to. Jeez...

SirCritical · February 2016

They should only allow to buy monster headpieces, because those are the _farmable_ stuff. If they want to make dungeon-delving not a grinding method (and it seems, they want), then they should let players buy the helms, and to get the shoulders by the original method, a.k.a. daily pledges. In this case they would help those players, who don't have time for farming, but they wouldn't make those (this much) angry, who obtained the helms earlier. And ofc, the price of the helms should start at 500k AP/250k gold.

Hope499 · February 2016

I had to spend weeks and weeks of farming for me Kena helm.

i wouldn't change a THING, that is how games are SUPPOSED to be, you EARN your ***.

Thats RNG, thats what makes it feel so good when you finally get it, thats what makes the game worth playing, I had to do WGT at least 30 times before my helm...and thats what got me playing the content.....

Hope499 · February 2016

Ruben wrote: »

The vendor does not sell head pieces, only shoulders. You can get those without buying the DLC by doing daily normal and veteran dungeons.

Errrr, dunno about that...you sure???

Sausage · February 2016

When did scaling and easier CP-grind becoming fair? Things like this happen in MMORPGs all the time. I dont simply understand how people value Monster Set items so much, when they lost a ton with CP-system.