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Guess magicka sorc will be back as FOTM
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Magicka specs in general will probably become the meta, to early to tell but it looks like it if you read the notes.EU | PC2 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Master_Kas wrote: »Magicka specs in general will probably become the meta, to early to tell but it looks like it if you read the notes.
they where already the meta in PvE, now they PvP will be dominated by magicka aswell2 -
Vangy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Makes me Glad I have a magicka sorc. Already been cheesing with 15 k shields but now I can has combined cp boost to offensive attacks and get Phy damage reduction. Woot.Edited by Vangy on February 4, 2016 9:47AM(2)V16 Dk- stam dps/stam tank/mag dps
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Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Makes me Glad I have a magicka sorc. Already been cheesing with 15 k shields but now I can has combined cp boost to offensive attacks and get Phy damage reduction. Woot.
^^this. back to elder robes online.
magicka sorc tankyer then a full 7/7 heavy armor dk in 7/7 light armor.
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Tonnopesce✭✭✭✭✭
✭yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerersSignature3 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭they should just let shields be crittable and use the impenetrable trait to reduce crit damage on shields. that would make things way more fair. then Gimky CP passsives and crafting sets2 -
pronkg✭✭✭✭Makes me Glad I have a magicka sorc. Already been cheesing with 15 k shields but now I can has combined cp boost to offensive attacks and get Phy damage reduction. Woot.
^^this. back to elder robes online.
magicka sorc tankyer then a full 7/7 heavy armor dk in 7/7 light armor.
and magicka sorc doesn't lose any dps
In fact, they gain dps due to elemental expert also boosting magic dmg
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Steel_Brightblade✭✭✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerers
Good luck, remember sorcerers now only need 1 set of cp to massively increase their damage on you. You on the other hand require mighty and heavy weapons cp to be able to begin to counteract them.
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Steel_Brightblade✭✭✭✭Though dots activating on Shields may make for an interesting turn and buff magic dks a lot.0
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Decado✭✭✭✭I can already picture the your only a flavour of the month Sorc whispers,
Good times lol
And the nerf threads! This forum won't know what's hit it when the nerf Sorc guys come along lol0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭strange thing they acted on people who complained about cloak (change is fine but fear is the most broken skill of the NB though) physical resistance on CP which is fine. But keep the shields unable the be critical hit where most builds have at least 60% crit chance. while the shield give same amount of "health" as they actually have + no crit actually giving them 2.25 - 2.5x their health without losing DPS. ye ZoS thats balance!0 -
RinaldoGandolphi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerers
Exactly!
Sorcs kinda just stayed the same pretty much. We got a small buff to pets but pets are still useless. the Magelight and other changes effect everyone not just Sorcs.
Sorcs now have Shield Breaker + an entire Champion Tree dedicated to dealing with damage shields, if anything it became harder to play the Light Armor caster Sorc now.
IMO the Magick DK i started leveling a month ago looks far more attractive now then my Sorc, especially with the nerfs to Major Expedition that directkly nerf Boundless Storm which is another direct nerf to Sorc Mobility, Bolt Escape isn't what it once was, Ball of Lighting is useless, i use Streak now for offensive purposes only as running from a Zerg with that state of OP Gap closers and mega insane cost stacking of cost against Bolt Escape makes it a re positioning tool, nothing more, you cna't run from any zerg anymore with it....
Sorc is just stats quo and they honestly are not that good right now, nerf Harness Magicka and magic Sorcs will really suck as the class honestly doesn't have much left and most of their DPS in PVE comes from Overload, in PVP Overload is siuational and only works against unsuspecting targets, its very easy to avoid...Negate is terrible and has been for sometime, and Atronach is meh......its not all sunshine and rainbows for Sorcs...i think Magic DK will be better off.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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Surak73✭✭✭✭✭We can make shields crittable after a reasonable reduction of crit % for stamina classes. Now for a stamina build it's normal to reach a crit % of 80%; after the last nerfing of maglight, a magicka sorcerer can reach a 60% spell critical only sacrificing all the rest.
Let's put a cap of 40-50% max crit for all classes, then we can talk of making shields crittable. They call it "balance"...0 -
Digiman✭✭✭✭✭Makes me Glad I have a magicka sorc. Already been cheesing with 15 k shields but now I can has combined cp boost to offensive attacks and get Phy damage reduction. Woot.
Heavy Weapon Expert: This ability now increases your damage against damage shields, instead of increasing your damage with maces and axes. We also renamed this ability to Shattering Blows.
Try again.
As for sorcerers, most of their changes are towards pets, that still require being on all weapon bars. When was the last time you saw a decent PvP sorcerer use pets? None!
The cost of having them is too much no matter hell many abilities you give them.
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Tonnopesce✭✭✭✭✭
✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerers
Exactly!
Sorcs kinda just stayed the same pretty much. We got a small buff to pets but pets are still useless. the Magelight and other changes effect everyone not just Sorcs.
Sorcs now have Shield Breaker + an entire Champion Tree dedicated to dealing with damage shields, if anything it became harder to play the Light Armor caster Sorc now.
IMO the Magick DK i started leveling a month ago looks far more attractive now then my Sorc, especially with the nerfs to Major Expedition that directkly nerf Boundless Storm which is another direct nerf to Sorc Mobility, Bolt Escape isn't what it once was, Ball of Lighting is useless, i use Streak now for offensive purposes only as running from a Zerg with that state of OP Gap closers and mega insane cost stacking of cost against Bolt Escape makes it a re positioning tool, nothing more, you cna't run from any zerg anymore with it....
Sorc is just stats quo and they honestly are not that good right now, nerf Harness Magicka and magic Sorcs will really suck as the class honestly doesn't have much left and most of their DPS in PVE comes from Overload, in PVP Overload is siuational and only works against unsuspecting targets, its very easy to avoid...Negate is terrible and has been for sometime, and Atronach is meh......its not all sunshine and rainbows for Sorcs...i think Magic DK will be better off.
I've waited for over a year to go back in pvp with my magika DK i was cying while reading the Nach Ptoes today.
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Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bleeds will be much more powerful and global now...and go through shields.
Plus we have bubble penetration with the new CS passive.
Just need to confirm whether the CS disease/poison passives also apply to bleed or not.
Mitigation over time combatted by damage over time seems appropriate if it works that way.Edited by Rune_Relic on February 4, 2016 1:19PMAnything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think with the changes to Constellations, any Magicka build- and especially those of Altmer or Dunmer- will especially benefit from the changes. Now they won't have to split CPs between Elemental Damage and Magic Damage (Thaumaturge) as they will both be combined under Elemental Damage... and as Dunmer gets bonus to Fire damage and Altmer to ALL elemental damage... either of those as a Magicka Sorc, Magicka Dragonknight or even Magicka Nightblade will definitely be hitting harder after the change.
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Sav72✭✭✭✭✭Two words:
Shield breaker.
Bring it!Savoifair, EP NB
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerers
meh....also with this for me sorc will be this FOTM, better dmg from all sources and psychical resist from hardy...arrow in knee for stam build what are most for burst, not much for survive like sorc is survive and dps in 1
for me this new cp passive agains shield....didn't to much op because this is only for dmg shild and sint better than mighty...maybe up to 10% it can acceptable with today cap, no more...more will be very waste against non sorc
CP buffs much for sorcs and more magica builds with some nerf for stamina and not much buff like for sorcTwo words:
Shield breaker.
Bring it!
ye...like this CP passive to increese dmg against dmg shiel....with no any worth against no sorc enemy...Edited by Edziu on February 4, 2016 1:44PM0 -
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Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerers
Which one is that? I didn't see it in the notes.0 -
Merkabeh✭✭✭Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Tonnopesceb16_ESO wrote: »yeah but now we have a specific CP passive to deal with sorcerers shields spammers, increasing all the damage done against shields...and i belive that the new fotm will be spend something there and wreck all the sorcerers
Exactly!
Sorcs kinda just stayed the same pretty much. We got a small buff to pets but pets are still useless. the Magelight and other changes effect everyone not just Sorcs.
Sorcs now have Shield Breaker + an entire Champion Tree dedicated to dealing with damage shields, if anything it became harder to play the Light Armor caster Sorc now.
IMO the Magick DK i started leveling a month ago looks far more attractive now then my Sorc, especially with the nerfs to Major Expedition that directkly nerf Boundless Storm which is another direct nerf to Sorc Mobility, Bolt Escape isn't what it once was, Ball of Lighting is useless, i use Streak now for offensive purposes only as running from a Zerg with that state of OP Gap closers and mega insane cost stacking of cost against Bolt Escape makes it a re positioning tool, nothing more, you cna't run from any zerg anymore with it....
Sorc is just stats quo and they honestly are not that good right now, nerf Harness Magicka and magic Sorcs will really suck as the class honestly doesn't have much left and most of their DPS in PVE comes from Overload, in PVP Overload is siuational and only works against unsuspecting targets, its very easy to avoid...Negate is terrible and has been for sometime, and Atronach is meh......its not all sunshine and rainbows for Sorcs...i think Magic DK will be better off.
I've waited for over a year to go back in pvp with my magika DK i was cying while reading the Nach Ptoes today.
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Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Ah, indeed, i totally forgot CP from Atronach sign that can incease damage vs damage shields to 25%. RIP shieldstacking sorcs, stamknights will shred them in pieces.0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ah, indeed, i totally forgot CP from Atronach sign that can incease damage vs damage shields to 25%. RIP shieldstacking sorcs, stamknights will shred them in pieces.
you would be able to do way more damage to shield if you could actually crit them. and sorc counter it with 25% less physical damage. no they will be even more overpowered and stam DK cant reflect meteor anymore :'(. it was always such good feeling to blast a meteor back in someones face1 -
Asherons_Call✭✭✭✭✭
✭My one and only main is a magicka sorc closing in on 400 CP. never had the urge to roll another character.
Edited by Asherons_Call on February 4, 2016 4:17PM1 -
Asmael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Makes me Glad I have a magicka sorc. Already been cheesing with 15 k shields but now I can has combined cp boost to offensive attacks and get Phy damage reduction. Woot.
Heavy Weapon Expert: This ability now increases your damage against damage shields, instead of increasing your damage with maces and axes. We also renamed this ability to Shattering Blows.
Try again.
As for sorcerers, most of their changes are towards pets, that still require being on all weapon bars. When was the last time you saw a decent PvP sorcerer use pets? None!
The cost of having them is too much no matter hell many abilities you give them.
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