RIP BREATH OF LIFE

KingYogi415 · February 2016

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245011/.

Why does ZOS have to nerf the one skill that made Templars wanted for dungeons.

I am all for class balancing but nerfing Templars again is just a complete joke.

As a dedicated healer who was waiting for buffs to switch to magicka DPS I am deeply disappointed.

The main reason they did this was not in the name of "balancing" but to artificially inflate the new raids difficulty.

"Restoration Staff:

Essence Drain: This passive ability now also grants you the Major Mending buff for 1.5/3 seconds after completing a fully-charged Heavy Attack at Ranks I/II."

Every class now has Templar healers best buff. Nightblade, DK's and maybe Sorcs might be just as good healers as Templars now.

Here is what the testers had to say: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/245184/official-feedback-thread-for-templars#latest

QUEZ420 · February 2016

BOL spam is OP.

Jura23 · February 2016

I am Templar myself, but I'm starting to be a little bit embarrassed about the whinefest that started about BoL nerf.

QUEZ420 · February 2016

Wuz*

Molag_Crow · February 2016

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

daemonios · February 2016

I don't care much for BoL. Abused skill if you ask me. More worried about purifying ritual being nerfed, as this affects all other heals that received a boost within its area.

Jura23 · February 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

They didn't really buff it. They just made it a little more BoL wannabe. Not sure if that's the right path for that skill.

Tankqull · February 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

feel free to use a ability with 1.75 sec CT (more than TWICE the CT of WB!!) after the change while being snared when casting it (unlike WB!!) with 12m range (not even twice the range of WB)...

in short this ability is completly useless in PvP - and as often used in pve as Stone Giant, Rune Cage or Prolonged suffering...

Jura23 · February 2016

Tankqull wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

feel free to use a ability with 1.75 sec CT (more than TWICE the CT of WB!!) after the change while being snared when casting it (unlike WB!!) with 12m range (not even twice the range of WB)...

in short this ability is completly useless in PvP - and as often used in pve as Stone Giant, Rune Cage or Prolonged suffering...

Casttime should be 1.5 sec and 1.2 sec for one morph. At least that's my math.

Justice31st · February 2016

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Ashtaris · February 2016

So they nerfed BOL so that it applies to only one other group target besides yourself. The question I have is on priority. Does it go to the lowest health target, or is it random?

Tankqull · February 2016

Jura23 wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

feel free to use a ability with 1.75 sec CT (more than TWICE the CT of WB!!) after the change while being snared when casting it (unlike WB!!) with 12m range (not even twice the range of WB)...

in short this ability is completly useless in PvP - and as often used in pve as Stone Giant, Rune Cage or Prolonged suffering...

Casttime should be 1.5 sec and 1.2 sec for one morph. At least that's my math.

jep you are right. so its slightlyless than twice wb casting time (0.8sec)

Praeficere · February 2016

Templars are wanted in dungeons for Repentance, Shards and Nova. Not BoL.

Kevmeister · February 2016

Praeficere wrote: »

Templars are wanted in dungeons for Repentance, Shards and Nova. Not BoL.

You only said that because BoL was a staple skill used by, oh I don't know, every Templar healers?

Let's see how effective they are now that you have taken that skill for granted, as it heals 1 less player in the group.

UrQuan · February 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

They really didn't buff Healing Ritual though. They reduced the cast time (but left it still high enough to make it never worth using), and they reduced the healing it does by the same amount. It was a useless skill, and it remains a useless skill. I never slot this skill now, and with these changes I'll continue to never slot it. I can't think of a worse healing skill in the game - and this is coming from a Templar who uses a wide variety of different heals when I'm healing, with BoL only being my panic button.

Bossdonut · February 2016

Lol so many people are gonna die in pve.

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO · February 2016

If there is one skill in the game that proves the developers do not play this game its healing ritual. Healing ritual is never used for 3 primary reasons.

a) It's radius is 12m.
b) It has a 2 second cast time (now 1.5) which leaves you completely vulnerable, interruptible and open to burst damage. Players can easily die in the time it takes to cast this kill.
c) It has a 50% snare attached to it which makes it an absolute nightmare to keep people in range of you.

Nothing has changed to alleviate any of these issues. It is now and will continue to be a useless skill.

Fruitmass · February 2016

Kevmeister wrote: »

Praeficere wrote: »

Templars are wanted in dungeons for Repentance, Shards and Nova. Not BoL.

You only said that because BoL was a staple skill used by, oh I don't know, every Templar healers?

Let's see how effective they are now that you have taken that skill for granted, as it heals 1 less player in the group.

That's the thing, many Templars didn't take it for granted. People we were partied with took it for granted. Good Templars understood it was for emergencies, not for spamming. Good healing Templars used a variety of skills from the Resto Staves, Undaunted, Alliance War, Aedric Spear and Dawn's Wrath trees.

Bad players expected, insisted and often demanded that Templar healers use BoL and only BoL. Bad player insisted that non Templar healers were trash. Bad players run with no health and armor forcing Templar healers to spam BoL to cover for them. Bad players rant about how all other heal abilities other than BoL are useless.

And now ZOS made a bad decision that may very well drive the final nail into the coffin when it comes to playing a Templar.

driosketch · February 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

They buffed Healing Ritual though, so they're basically saying "Hey, maybe you might want to use this healing ability AS WELL, you know... instead of ummm.. spamming that one heal?"

They really didn't buff Healing Ritual though. They reduced the cast time (but left it still high enough to make it never worth using), and they reduced the healing it does by the same amount. It was a useless skill, and it remains a useless skill. I never slot this skill now, and with these changes I'll continue to never slot it. I can't think of a worse healing skill in the game - and this is coming from a Templar who uses a wide variety of different heals when I'm healing, with BoL only being my panic button.

I didn't see anything about reducing the cost either. By my math that's actually a nerf when used over time.

OtarTheMad · February 2016

I used healing ritual in PvP (any PvP only) for spamming on resource/keeps flags... along with healing springs it was a good heal but reducing it's healing by 25% and then nerfing BoL... I will be unslotting Healing ritual and taking away the point I have in that ability... it's useless even to me now.

For those who missed the nerf to Healing Ritual:

Healing Ritual: Reduced the cast time for this ability and its morphs by 25%, and reduced the healing done by 25%.

tennant94 · February 2016

Oh no you're healing 1 less person it's the end for templars

SirDopey · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Oh no you're healing 1 less person it's the end for templars

The biggest impact is going to be on resource management, that "1 person" works out to about a 25% drop in effective healing potential (given there has been no decrease in ability cost). This means your healers are going to have less resources available to apply buffs/debuffs that make group content smoother for everyone, let alone less resources to keep your sorry asses alive.....

tennant94 · February 2016

Don't spam it as much then you won't burn through your resources fast. You should only be using Bol in near death situations so if your team requires Bol spam they need to up there game.

Molag_Crow · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Don't spam it as much then you won't burn through your resources fast. You should only be using Bol in near death situations so if your team requires Bol spam they need to up there game.

SirDopey · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Don't spam it as much then you won't burn through your resources fast. You should only be using Bol in near death situations so if your team requires Bol spam they need to up there game.

Righto mate, good luck completing vWGT in the next patch xD

KingYogi415 · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Don't spam it as much then you won't burn through your resources fast. You should only be using Bol in near death situations so if your team requires Bol spam they need to up there game.

Have you ever healed a PUG?

A lot of the time it is your only option.

BullNetch · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Don't spam it as much then you won't burn through your resources fast. You should only be using Bol in near death situations so if your team requires Bol spam they need to up there game.

BoL is the chain heal of this game.

Everyone is gonna be running healing ward and mutagen and DKs will "mutagen" and "healing ward" better because of igneous shield. They will also have superior self healing.

Mutagen is getting a buff and a fix.

Sorcs will get a pet that will heal 2 party members passively from time to time.

One of the NB seal heals or ultimate got better, too.

BoL is just one flavor of healing. Templars can heal without using healing ward or the HOTs. Now the HOTs and the bubble from the resto staff are required.

Bossdonut · February 2016

SirDopey wrote: »

tennant94 wrote: »

Don't spam it as much then you won't burn through your resources fast. You should only be using Bol in near death situations so if your team requires Bol spam they need to up there game.

Righto mate, good luck completing vWGT in the next patch xD

We will see how many people upped "there" game on 3-23

FizzOnly · February 2016

Doesnt matter if it will affect your healing,it was completly unnecessary to nerf it(For PvP:Just code it so it wont go through walls....)

tennant94 · February 2016

@SirDopey piece of cake. @KingYogi415 trying to accomplish anything with a pug is sometimes challenging but the Bol changes won't make it much worse. I would bet my engine guardian set on it(good traits too). @BullNetch it sounds like you're annoyed you will have to press more than 1 button now xd.

Bossdonut · February 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

@SirDopey piece of cake. @KingYogi415 trying to accomplish anything with a pug is sometimes challenging but the Bol changes won't make it much worse. I would bet my engine guardian set on it(good traits too). @BullNetch it sounds like you're annoyed you will have to press more than 1 button now xd.

Thanks for all the insightful posts nightblade.