Is this really the main concern right now? Not the dozens of bugs that need fixing?

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/43nlcm/discussion_more_ambience_sounds/ Ambiance? really? Sounds like a complete waste of time and resources that could be spent on bug fixes. Why is the only notable interaction we have with devs over useless stuff like this and not the issues at hand?

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/213734/the-bug-notes-compendium-of-current-bugs-exploits-maintained-daily

^ This should be your main focus and what we discuss.

Recremen · February 2016

I'd rather have the sound team working on making more enriching sounds than trying to fix bugs in the code that probably all of them have never even seen or know what to do with.

Go sound team!

wayfarerx · February 2016

... because the sound guys work on the code?

ZOS_GinaBruno · February 2016

Bill is one of our sound designers, so his priority is different than other teams such as gameplay or engineering.

Volkodav · February 2016

That's one person's opinion.
Personally,I like it when the sounds that surround you ingame fit the area.The right sounding animals,birds,etc.

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

Well shouldn't the resources be pooled into bug fixes not sound? Regardless of who works where? How is that even relevant? How much is being spent on the sound? Yeah spend that money fixing the bugs. instead of trying to divert attention to who works where.

vyrusb23 · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/43nlcm/discussion_more_ambience_sounds/ Ambiance? really? Sounds like a complete waste of time and resources that could be spent on bug fixes. Why is the only notable interaction we have with devs over useless stuff like this and not the issues at hand?

What bugs would you suggest the Sound Designers fix?

wayfarerx · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Well shouldn't the resources be pooled into bug fixes not sound? Regardless of who works where? How is that even relevant? How much is being spent on the sound?

So they should fire the sounds guys, hire some new code monkeys, spend months training them...

What exactly is it you want to see happen here?

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

I would suggest the money be spent on bug fixes and the sound guy not even be mentioned ever. Not until bugs are fixed. Unless those commenting don't understand changes cost money and that money should be spent on the bugs.

NeillMcAttack · February 2016

Who is the nicest guy in a hospital???

The ultra-sound guy!!

Gidorick · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Well shouldn't the resources be pooled into bug fixes not sound? Regardless of who works where? How is that even relevant? How much is being spent on the sound? Yeah spend that money fixing the bugs. instead of trying to divert attention to who works where.

So you're suggesting Bill be fired so they can hire another person to work on the bugs? That's harsh man... What do they do about their sound team? Rehire the team when they get the bugs fixed? That's a quick way to make employees feel insecure in their jobs.

Xendyn · February 2016

Yeh cause those sound guys are just who we want working on fixing bugs.

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vyrusb23 · February 2016

wayfarerx wrote: »

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Well shouldn't the resources be pooled into bug fixes not sound? Regardless of who works where? How is that even relevant? How much is being spent on the sound?

So they should fire the sounds guys, hire some new code monkeys, spend months training them...

What exactly is it you want to see happen here?

Right? Let's fire people to appease some neckbeard forum poster.

wayfarerx · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

I would suggest the money be spent on bug fixes and the sound guy not even be mentioned ever. Not until bugs are fixed.

Then you obviously have no idea how a development shop works. "Resources" is not a currency that can just be spent willy-nilly on whatever you like.

I want the bugs fixed too but gutting other parts of the team will not do anything to get them fixed.

rfennell_ESO · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Bill is one of our sound designers, so his priority is different than other teams such as gameplay or engineering.

Then have him code the sound and ambiance to play annoying music when people are cheating and exploiting or something.

I'd recommend this https://youtube.com/watch?v=0cVlTeIATBs

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

Who said i want the sound guy fixing bugs? that's ignorant. I want the money spent on bugs. I don't really care if he gets fired i want the game to work. Stop trying to divert this into who works where its about them spending money on dumb stuff instead of what needs fixing. I don't want the sound guy asking what ambiance i want to hear i want the guys fixing bugs to come tell us why they can't seem to do their job.

JD2013 · February 2016

Hypernatramia is real with the amount of salt on these forums.

BlackEar · February 2016

Can we just close this troll thread already?

ShadowDisciple · February 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Bill is one of our sound designers, so his priority is different than other teams such as gameplay or engineering.

LOL

people dont understand that there are role assigments in company...

they think cleaning lady also fixes servers..and Matt is buying coffee for the receptionist...

wayfarerx · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Who said i want the sound guy fixing bugs? that's ignorant. I want the money spent on bugs. I don't really care if he gets fired i want the game to work. Stop trying to divert this into who works where its about them spending money on dumb stuff instead of what needs fixing.

Quick question: do you develop software or have any experience at all in that arena?

Volkodav · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Well shouldn't the resources be pooled into bug fixes not sound? Regardless of who works where? How is that even relevant? How much is being spent on the sound? Yeah spend that money fixing the bugs. instead of trying to divert attention to who works where.

Sound designers dont do anything other than sound.Sorry.
And if you threw a spell or shot someone with your bow or thwacked someone with your sword and no sound came of it,..it would get old real fast.If you rode your horse and no sound came,that would be weird.If you ran and there were no footstep sounds,that too would be weird.If you were near the sea and there were no sounds,it wouldnt feel right.
If,...shall I go on?

vyrusb23 · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

I want the money spent on bugs. I don't really care if he gets fired

This level of entitlement is sickening.

Reported for the OP being a terrible human being.

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

The sound is fine. Is it bugged currently? If so provide examples of it needing addressing. I posted an entire thread of bugs that need addressing. But nah lets interact with the dev about sound. Instead of them addressing any real issue whatsoever. Lag in pvp? Nah sound guy wants to make changes. Bleeding axe bug? Nope sound guy. Don't even bother responding to us about bugs because OMG if another npc mentions an arrow to the knee. This is the only interaction I've seen in months and it's about something as useless as ambiance.

JD2013 · February 2016

Do you even know how a company works and operates, OP?

UrQuan · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

Who said i want the sound guy fixing bugs? that's ignorant. I want the money spent on bugs. I don't really care if he gets fired i want the game to work. Stop trying to divert this into who works where its about them spending money on dumb stuff instead of what needs fixing. I don't want the sound guy asking what ambiance i want to hear i want the guys fixing bugs to come tell us why they can't seem to do their job.

So you're saying you have absolutely no idea how development works. And because of your ignorance you want ZOS to listen to you and shoot themselves in the foot by firing people who they're going to need later.

If your goal was to make yourself look like a fool...

wayfarerx · February 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

The sound is fine. Is it bugged currently? If so provide examples of it needing addressing. I posted an entire thread of bugs that need addressing. But nah lets interact with the dev about sound. Instead of them addressing any real issue whatsoever. Lag in pvp? Nah sound guy wants to make changes. Bleeding axe bug? Nope sound guy. Don't even bother responding to us about bugs because OMG if another npc mentions an arrow to the knee

Okay, I tried. No point in banging my head against a brick wall.

I've had project managers that think like you, I've also worked on failed projects... guess what the overlap between those looks like.

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

Who said i want the guy fired? You guys just love jumping to conclusions. I want him to remain quiet and not come out talking about ambiance when we've been asking for bug fixes and been ignored for months. Ambiance is about the most useless non issue i could even think of. Might as well come out and talk about changing color in the UI. Why is this our dev interaction?

catalyst10e · February 2016

Why do people assume that when one team is working on something it's somehow pulling resources from another? Like , do you think theres 1 computer in the building and it's being used by the sound guy? And the debug team is just standing around tapping their foot impatiently awaiting their turn?

Next time you picture ZOS, picture a Mcdonalds instead, when someone says they're working on cleaning the tables, it doesn't mean it's the same guy who's supposed to be making the frys.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2016

Hopefully the sound guy doesnt do to pvp what the lighting guys did to pvp.

Decayed_Inside · February 2016

catalyst10e wrote: »

Why do people assume that when one team is working on something it's somehow pulling resources from another? Like , do you think theres 1 computer in the building and it's being used by the sound guy? And the debug team is just standing around tapping their foot impatiently awaiting their turn?

Next time you picture ZOS, picture a Mcdonalds instead, when someone says they're working on cleaning the tables, it doesn't mean it's the same guy who's supposed to be making the frys.

You have obviously never worked at MCdonalds