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What good is an Orc?

  • MrDerrikk
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Orc is the only class that can maximize movement speed.

    I'm talking:
    • Racial Passives
    • Sanctum Ophidia Set
    • Steed Stone
    • 2x Divines Any Armor
    • Windrunning CP Passive
    • Athletics Medium Armor Passive
    • Major Expedition

    You honestly cannot be any faster than that. (Besides Caltrops / Eclipse + Talons Bug lol)

    Isn't there that wonderful low-level set that increases movement speed by 15% for the 5pc?
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  • sickboy2808
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    Merkabeh wrote: »
    My Orc is Stam DK Tank...works well...

    Same here
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  • Aimora
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    Merkabeh wrote: »
    My Orc is Stam DK Tank...works well...

    Same here

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  • ContraTempo
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    I dunno but I sure would like to be able to run as fast as that Orc messenger from Orsinium, Stuga. When she's chasing you down to give you that invitation she can almost keep up with a horse at full speed.

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  • Stranglehands
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    Orcs are the fastest runners in ESO which is peculiar. usually redguards and argonians are the athletics champs
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  • Stranglehands
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    I've got a lowbie orc (2h/bow) whose sole purpose in life is to beat aldmeri dominion's heads in with a warhammer on blackwater blade, and he works very well
    Edited by Stranglehands on February 2, 2016 8:10AM
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  • Duiwel
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    Orcs are good for getting drunk cursing Malacath and then being banished to the Ebonheart Pact to become a crafter with no fighting skills.

    Oh wait that's just my Orc.

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  • Septimus_Magna
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    I55UE5 wrote: »
    My Orc is a NB Vamp. I run all divines with Steed mundus. Wind running CP bonus unlocked. Vampire also has access to minor expedition.

    There is no faster build. (Besides adding that fiords set)

    EDIT I chose NB because I was sure I wanted to run the Steed, and NB Is the best class that can use health recovery as a self heal.. Due to cloaking.

    Health regen on a vamp? Seems legit
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  • babylon
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    Orcs are good for giving us a new swear word to use which won't be censored.

    Tusk. Tusk you all!

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  • Taternater
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    I've never met an orc, but I'm sure if I did he'd smell like BO. All orcs are good for is mind controlling with wraith powers.
  • Sharee
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    babylon wrote: »
    Orcs are good for giving us a new swear word to use which won't be censored.

    Tusk. Tusk you all!

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  • VShane
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    Orcs are really good meat shields
  • Zinaroth
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    Only roll Orc if you PvP a lot and want the mobility. The damage bonus to melee attacks is not nearly as good as the bonus damage from extra stamina you get from Redguard or Imperial, and both those races have better benefits for stamina builds overall.
  • Tdroid
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    Tdroid wrote: »
    Depends on whether or not you have the Imperial available. If not, then they make good warriors with decent health and good stamina damage. If you do have Imperials unlocked, Orcs are a somewhat worse version of the Imperial. Sad, but I guess that is how the pay-gate race will be.

    No they are not a worse version of Imperial. They do not have a higher stamina and health, but what they do have is a harder hitting attack thanks to swift warrior, more mobility again to swift warrior, and far better health regeneration thanks to Robust. I think Orc is fairly well balanced, and complaining about that race is preposterous. I'd almost argue they are the best all around Stamina race for pvp, because of their built-in mobility, and stam-damage boost. Especially in a game where Health utility has been diminished and building for damage and mobility is more important than health, I definitely think Orc is better than Imperial.

    Do they hit harder? They get a minor boost to melee damage, but the higher stamina bonus gives Imperials an increase in melee damage as well, and they get twice the health bonus. As for health regen, Red Diamond is pretty damn good for any melee fighter.
  • Brrrofski
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    Anything stam that's using major expedition.

    Be it dodge roll with bow, double take, boundless storm. Whatever. I have an orc Dk.
  • Alucardo
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    They work pretty well for any stam build. Nightblade, Stam Sorc, DK, stamplar. I would probably lean more towards NB or Stam Sorc though
  • Taternater
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    To those saying Imperials are better than Orcs, don't Imperials require a purchase with crowns separate from the other races? Orcs get bonus points due to the price being right.
  • Alucardo
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    Taternater wrote: »
    To those saying Imperials are better than Orcs, don't Imperials require a purchase with crowns separate from the other races? Orcs get bonus points due to the price being right.

    Imperials are pretty versatile, which makes them good, but I wouldn't say they are better. If I had no intention of switching between magicka and stamina, I'd just go with Orc.
  • Tdroid
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    Taternater wrote: »
    To those saying Imperials are better than Orcs, don't Imperials require a purchase with crowns separate from the other races? Orcs get bonus points due to the price being right.

    I did say in my first post on the subject that if you have access to the Imperials, Orcs are a slightly worse version of them. And if you don't, Orcs are a fairly good race for stamina DPS. And I did make the point that this was because Imperials are a paygate race. Who would have thought that the pay-extra race is the overall best race for stamina warriors? And before the major buffs to the Nords, they were also hands down the best survivors too.

    Edit: Don't get me wrong, I think the Orcs are balanced compared to the Nords and Redguards, the other traditional warrior races in TES, but the Imperials have too high stats in general when doing the same thing as the Orcs. Balancing offense and defense for warriors, that is.
    Edited by Tdroid on February 2, 2016 1:34PM
  • jarrandub17_ESO
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    I created an Orc Stam Sorc, and it's a blast to play. It's my Tasmanian Devil.
  • runagate
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    MrDerrikk wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Orc is the only class that can maximize movement speed.

    I'm talking:
    • Racial Passives
    • Sanctum Ophidia Set
    • Steed Stone
    • 2x Divines Any Armor
    • Windrunning CP Passive
    • Athletics Medium Armor Passive
    • Major Expedition

    You honestly cannot be any faster than that. (Besides Caltrops / Eclipse + Talons Bug lol)

    Isn't there that wonderful low-level set that increases movement speed by 15% for the 5pc?

    @MrDerrikk it's Fiord's Legacy set, and 2 pieces are rings:

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Fiord's+Legacy+Set

    (5 items) Sprint cost reduced by 15% and movement speed increased by 15%.

    I use FTC to swap into this when running an Elder Scroll across Cyrodiil. It's the reason I have an all-medium armor wearing Stam Sorc with a bow. I also use Vicious Ophidian to get the 3 set bonus:

    "When you kill an enemy, gain 75% movement speed for 3 seconds."

    With Thundering Presence, athletics and the Steed mundus boon you wouldn't believe what a whirling ball of death you become while spinning your daggers. It's not a viable endgame build, obviously, but situationally very useful. Certainly nothing can compare to the speed of this build. It's actually a little hard to control when the Vicious Ophidian set procs. Which in, say, a zerg of people farming IC or in PvP is pretty much all the time.

    It used to be WAY faster when speed pots and Rapid Maneuvers stacked and there wasn't this Major Expedition nonsense.

    I also make all of my characters carry around 3 pieces of Ward of Cyrodiil for the +15% movement speed while mounted. It makes trips across Cyrodiil a lot faster.

    But not as fast as my orc sorc once was prior to the Major/Minor buff patch. She could get from one starting area in Cyrodiil to the other corner all the way across the map, on foot, in just over 9 minutes.

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    Edited by runagate on February 2, 2016 11:52AM
  • Personofsecrets
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    What is an Orc, but a miserable little pile of secrets?
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  • Tdroid
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    Speaking of Orcs, how come they are the warrior race that balance defense and offense in TESO, while the Nords are the dedicated tanks? It's reversed in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim. Strikes me as a bit curious of a design choice.
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