Easiest way to kill shield stackers?

x_Nathan_F · February 2016

Help pls every word shield stacks qq

x_Nathan_F · February 2016

sorc**

Forestd16b14_ESO · February 2016

Well most would say shield breaker but I used it and it is far from anything OP as they'll most likely cry about. It is good for say a group you can be int he back firing your bow chipping at there health while every one else go for the kill but 1v1 forget about it.

As to deal with it best option is how it's always been. Get a zerg

only way to kill shield stackers.

DKsUnite · February 2016

As a DK, i let the sorc kill itself with reflect

Leovolao · February 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Well most would say shield breaker but I used it and it is far from anything OP as they'll most likely cry about. It is good for say a group you can be int he back firing your bow chipping at there health while every one else go for the kill but 1v1 forget about it.

As to deal with it best option is how it's always been. Get a zerg only way to kill shield stackers.

So many tears in this comment... keep it up!

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 · February 2016

You basically have to survive and make them run out of resources. Shields are expensive and if you can keep knocking it down, they should be open after 4-5 re-shields.

Solariken · February 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Well most would say shield breaker but I used it and it is far from anything OP as they'll most likely cry about. It is good for say a group you can be int he back firing your bow chipping at there health while every one else go for the kill but 1v1 forget about it.

As to deal with it best option is how it's always been. Get a zerg only way to kill shield stackers.

Same here, tried Shield Breaker and it is complete garbage. I can't believe that was ZOS' "answer to shield stacking." I also can't fathom why people were crying about it on the forums when IC first dropped. What a garbage 5 set bonus.

x_Nathan_F · February 2016

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »

You basically have to survive and make them run out of resources. Shields are expensive and if you can keep knocking it down, they should be open after 4-5 re-shields.

I try but most the time they restack constantly then I'm drained I'm a magicka templar any suggestions..?

olsborg · February 2016

Shieldbreaker in melee, if youre a nb, weave light atks between surprise atk, it will whittle their health down adding pressure whilst continuously depleting their shields.

Waylander · February 2016

Attack their stamina. Every time cc immunity is up cc them, keep them on the back bar (the shield stack bar) with constant pressure and have a burst combination for that time when you cc them and their shields aren't full and they don't have enough stamina to break free. Lots of points into hardy, impen gear and well timed blocking/shields helps reduce their ability to burst (inevitable deto, curse, procced frags)

As a magica class, good luck getting through harness magica and hardened and healing wards, but same goes to them if you run harness and have any decent healing.

If dueling and they sit in mines, attro and stack shields, good luck to you sir unless you are a stam DK or NB I think.

catalyst10e · February 2016

I've had my bell rung with a shieldbreaker before, so I can say as a sorc it's an option. (Not saying it's the best option) if your only real problem is with sorcs, thats a good way to help. As a magicka Templar, most I've had trouble against out-resourced me, if they survive the initial burst damage through healing or something, I will spend more resources trying to burst them back down AND keep my shields up. If you see them trying to streak away it means they're out, and that's the time to really press your attack, hit em with a javelin and really keep on them.

Cody · February 2016

its a very difficult task, as shield stacking sorcs tend to also have high offensive capability thanks to the fact that the damage shields they tend to use use mana, allowing sorcs to invest in one resource and have both high offense and high defense. You can get thru their shields with a few wrecking blows or other powerful stamina/mana attacks, but by then you will likely have been hit with a couple of 6-10K crystal frags as well as crushing shocks/force pulses and will be near death, only for the sorc to stack more shields.

My advice? do one or more of the following:

1. the obvious, get the shield breaker set. Do what you have to do; ignore the haters
2. get a DK and make use of reflective scales. Let the milk drinkers tear their own shields down with their frags and meteor spams then go in for the kill.
3. Make a very powerful burst build and burst them down before they can commence with the shield stack spamming.
There are other ways of doing it of course, but whatever you do, DO NOT FIGHT A SUSTAIN BASED LONG BATTLE WITH THEM, you will lose unless you can heal very well or can reflect some of their spells. or unless you use a build like theirs.

Talcyndl · February 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

as they'll most likely cry about.

This is the best part of using the Shieldbreaker set.

Cody · February 2016

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »

You basically have to survive and make them run out of resources. Shields are expensive and if you can keep knocking it down, they should be open after 4-5 re-shields.

I try but most the time they restack constantly then I'm drained I'm a magicka templar any suggestions..?

waiting or trying to get them to drain themselves of their mana is not going to work. I too have tried MANY times to no avail. You will either be dead from very high DPS or it will be an endless battle due to high regain rates from potions, food/drink buffs, crafted sets, enchants, and other factors. Do not try to outlast a shield stacking sorc unless you have a build made specifically for doing so.

You have to put pressure on them and try to keep them from attacking you, try to drain their stamina, CC them constantly and try to burst them down in those moments if possible.

you are a mana templar? you have options im sure. In fact you could very well make a build to outlast them due to the class's awesome healing; but i am clueless in that department, as the templar is the one class I never got into.

Talcyndl · February 2016

Solariken wrote: »

What a garbage 5 set bonus.

The vast majority of folks in PvP have shields up at some point. As long as you are including light/heavy attacks in your rotation, it is a 100% proc big bump to dps. And for low HP shield stacking sorcs, it is targeted dps. I'm not sure there is a better overall dps boost set bonus for PvP.

Obviously, it's intended for stam/weapon damage builds. It would be garbage for magicka builds.

x_Nathan_F · February 2016

Cody wrote: »

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »

You basically have to survive and make them run out of resources. Shields are expensive and if you can keep knocking it down, they should be open after 4-5 re-shields.

I try but most the time they restack constantly then I'm drained I'm a magicka templar any suggestions..?

waiting or trying to get them to drain themselves of their mana is not going to work. I too have tried MANY times to no avail. You will either be dead from very high DPS or it will be an endless battle due to high regain rates from potions, food/drink buffs, crafted sets, enchants, and other factors. Do not try to outlast a shield stacking sorc unless you have a build made specifically for doing so.

You have to put pressure on them and try to keep them from attacking you, try to drain their stamina, CC them constantly and try to burst them down in those moments if possible.

you are a mana templar? you have options im sure. In fact you could very well make a build to outlast them due to the class's awesome healing; but i am clueless in that department, as the templar is the one class I never got into.

Haha you don't want to be either mate healings fine even though the reduction which is dumb but the other skills are either broke or plain useless

JaJaLuka · February 2016

Do your best to run them out of stamina, knock them down and burst them. In the mean time, running a reflect is a good idea if they're your focus. Defensive posture will reflect things like their frags and crushing shocks back and stun them at the same time, forcing them to waste much needed stamina. Shield stackers are anything but OP, it's just that people assume that to kill people their best bet is always to go flat out damage, running out of resources quickly however. Most shield stackers conserve their resources while waiting for you to run out of your own, then hit you when you have nothing left to defend with.

Karamis_Vimardon · February 2016

I would suggest blunt force trauma, a hammer would do nicely

x_Nathan_F · February 2016

markgd88nrb18_ESO wrote: »

I would suggest blunt force trauma, a hammer would do nicely

Hahaha

Forestd16b14_ESO · February 2016

markgd88nrb18_ESO wrote: »

I would suggest blunt force trauma, a hammer would do nicely

What expecting a #SpidermanThread ? This a Captain M'urica thread now.

FriedEggSandwich · February 2016

x_Nathan_F wrote: »

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »

You basically have to survive and make them run out of resources. Shields are expensive and if you can keep knocking it down, they should be open after 4-5 re-shields.

I try but most the time they restack constantly then I'm drained I'm a magicka templar any suggestions..?

Magicka templar is not the natural counter to a sorc but there are a few things you can do, not specific to shields. Purifying Ritual not only purges curse but also frags, so that one cheap skill can negate about 50% of the damage from your average sorc. Also make liberal use of dark flare, eclipse and those spears you throw.

The only counter to stacked shields, aside from shieldbreaker set, is burst damage. So your best bet would be to drain their stam with regular cc while purging half the damage they throw at you, then when they can't cc break go all out damage. But if you consistently purify curse and frags then they will quickly become demoralised and may well just give up and run away. As a magicka build you also have the option of stackng healing ward and harness magicka, but purifying ritual + BoL is better imo.

WarLord2905 · February 2016

As a shield stacking sorc myself (because i am wearing cotton for armor lol) CC's are the thing that will get me killed most of the time, even with with tri stack food and potions, stamina levels and re-gen is a huge issue for sorcs and if you can CC burst, CC burst and so on they can get dropped fairly quickly.

DannyLV702 · February 2016

Run them out of stamina. That's when I die

revonine · February 2016

Yeah OP you'll have to attack their stamina. You have Total Dark and Javelin for that. Watch out of their glowing hands. They'll be an insta cast frags coming your way. I understand your pain though Harness stacking against Hardened Ward is a bit too good against other magicka classes and jabs is currently bugged against shields.

I have a few points into Mooncalf on my magicka classes though if they have the same and know how to manage their stamina you'll still be in for a long fight.

Lucky28 · February 2016

DKsUnite wrote: »

As a DK, i let the sorc kill itself with reflect

Man, you must go up against some really bad sorcs.

RobboEU · February 2016

Use Zenimaxs' great fix... shield breaker

MountainHound · February 2016

Run away, come back with 23 friends.

Maximus_Mudcrab · February 2016

short answer...don't even bother because they end up streaking away

long answer...make a DK

Father_X_Zombie · February 2016

Lol the sorc hate is strong in this thread.

If your a stam build you should have NO problem getting through a sorcs only defense..... Hardened Ward. IMO, shieldbreaker is an unnessisary hard counter to shields, its only use is to troll sorcs and get easy kills in groups. If your a stam dps and can't burn through a little hardened ward then check your build.

@x_Nathan_F But you say you a magicka Templar, well in that case I understand your frustration, as a sorc, the worst thing that can happen to us is running out of stam and not being able to cc break. You can use eclipse for that, it also can stop a nasty 10k frag. Oh and if you have to use puncturing sweeps, don't roll around in our mines, they hurt

WillhelmBlack · February 2016

Total Dark, Blazing Spear, Dark Flare spam, don't use Radiant Destruction it's too slow and doesn't execute. Every attack they do can be purified off or reflected with sword and shield skill.

I don't get to kill very many because of the build I run and most run away and I can't chase them. My build is centred around anti-NB gank atm. Would love to slot Total Dark!

Zheg · February 2016

If you're playing a magicka templar, run harness magicka and the fight pretty much becomes a stalemate, even moreso if you have resto staff and healing bubble in the few cases where they get a good burst off on you.

Purify curses, stand in your circles, keep harness up, and they'll streak away after 2 min when they can't kill you. If you're just fighting sorcs, a well-timed eclipse when they're about to frags you is the way to go, but I dislike the skill when fighting other classes so defensive posture might be a better fit if you want a reflect slotted.