Veteran Prison Drop Rate?

M_TeK_9 · January 2016

I ran Vet 16 Prison 8 times today, on hard mode mind you, and I received 1 piece of gear that was a set piece. ONE....and it was from an ad pull for god sakes. No Helmet either....

Majority of ps4 players cant even complete this dungeon and to reward the players who can, you don't reward them.

Still waiting on weekly reward as well...

Got ripped off in Hel-Ra by not receiving a coffer...

This game is falling apart Zenimax. Please....save it. It feel like you took the PC game and tried to fit it inside the PS4 which lead to a game full of bugs. You guys need to start over and build it from the ground up for the PS4.

cyx54tc · January 2016

i have ran vWGT more than 100 times and only got 2 helm and only 4 pieces of essence thief (which is the set I'm after) plus bunch other ones

Usara · January 2016

M_TeK_9 · January 2016

11 runs just because maybe I'm having bad luck....still...NO SET DROPS.

I'm thinking about changing to a new game because of all the BS that comes with my $15 /month.

M_TeK_9 · January 2016

If you guys took a few notes from Diablo 2 RNG or even DCUO this game would feel 100X more rewarding and maybe we wouldn't gripe and remind you about the million other things that are wrong.

MrDerrikk · January 2016

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

Mojmir · January 2016

Usara wrote: »

not enough sides to that die, maybe a couple hundred-siders.

DRXHarbinger · January 2016

They drop more on normal now. V15 sets are much easier to come by and tbh there is very little difference. Our trial healers really struggled to get SPC but farmed it on normal over and over 3x quicker at least and got the last 2 pieces. The difference in stats when gold is like 7 per stat. Not worth worrying about on such an op set.

M_TeK_9 · January 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

Today isn't the only day that I've farmed Prison though and being PvE Director of a 500 man guild I run all dungeons all the time.

Prison RNG is broken.

MrDerrikk · January 2016

M_TeK_9 wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

Today isn't the only day that I've farmed Prison though and being PvE Director of a 500 man guild I run all dungeons all the time.

Prison RNG is broken.

All RNG is broken in this game; why do you think many of us are asking ZOS to make a token system instead of basic RNG?

eliisra · January 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

I had to do roughly 100+ runs in vWGT to get 5 piece Spellpower Cure. If I want it with perfect traits now on every slot I would have to run it likely 200+ more times. That's just silly, considering how gear becomes outdated in this game.

That's not me having a stroke of bad rng or no luck with drops btw, it's normal with hundreds and hundreds of IC dungeons if you want the gear. Ask anyone that actually farmed them(not completed twice like you).

Prison drop rates are even more screwed as far as I've heard (I only do it for pledge).

Gear should obviously take a while to farm. But this crap droprate combined with unreasonably annoying rng, makes people just give up and not even bother. That's the problem.

But yeah, maybe doing something in-between is a good idea. Rng does seem to go on some kind of timer in ESO.

M_TeK_9 · January 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

M_TeK_9 wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

Today isn't the only day that I've farmed Prison though and being PvE Director of a 500 man guild I run all dungeons all the time.

Prison RNG is broken.

All RNG is broken in this game; why do you think many of us are asking ZOS to make a token system instead of basic RNG?

Token system?

MrDerrikk · January 2016

eliisra wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

I had to do roughly 100+ runs in vWGT to get 5 piece Spellpower Cure. If I want it with perfect traits now on every slot I would have to run it likely 200+ more times. That's just silly, considering how gear becomes outdated in this game.

That's not me having a stroke of bad rng or no luck with drops btw, it's normal with hundreds and hundreds of IC dungeons if you want the gear. Ask anyone that actually farmed them(not completed twice like you).

Prison drop rates are even more screwed as far as I've heard (I only do it for pledge).

Gear should obviously take a while to farm. But this crap droprate combined with unreasonably annoying rng, makes people just give up and not even bother. That's the problem.

But yeah, maybe doing something in-between is a good idea. Rng does seem to go on some kind of timer in ESO.

This is why I'm a staunch believer in a token system being added. I haven't had a chance to do more runs because I don't trust myself with the mechanics enough to pug it, but I've farmed a lot of the other dungeons and gotten incredibly bad RNG.

M_TeK_9 · January 2016

Yep. So I run it again today enough times for another chest and...well...look. Mind the language, but I'm sure you can understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igxrafm5Kxs

And still no warden helmet.

Waffennacht · January 2016

That's messed up.

Im not a fan of the RNG, look at this:

Just soloed her and that's her drops? It's no better than any other random NPC. And all adds I have killed up to that point (and after) only drop gold. I know this is wgt but it's the same worthless drops.

A friend of mine couldn't believe that there was even a chance for a World Boss to ONLY drop the same stuff as a normal NPC. He thought surely there was always at least one unique item. He knows not the ways of ESO.

So time to put in another 98 rounds lol.

Oh and btw RnG. I have every briarheart jewelry, peice of clothing, divines, infused, reinforced, v15, v16, purp, blue freaking possible, Im a magicka sorc, I can't even sell this stuff, enough already.

RAGUNAnoOne · February 2016

PC is one patch ahead of consoles and look here

"Fixed an issue where the Normal versions of the bosses in White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison would occasionally grant less loot than intended when killed."

perhaps the same issue made it to vet in PS4...

M_TeK_9 · February 2016

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

PC is one patch ahead of consoles and look here

"Fixed an issue where the Normal versions of the bosses in White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison would occasionally grant less loot than intended when killed."

perhaps the same issue made it to vet in PS4...

I don't run normal on either of them. Strictly vet hard mode.

I'll also add that I ran VDSA TWICE today and I received THE EXACT SAME BELT OF THE ARCHERS MIND, rubedite sword and soul gems in BOTH of the final chests.

I've about had it with this game.

Artjuh90 · February 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

eliisra wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

I had to do roughly 100+ runs in vWGT to get 5 piece Spellpower Cure. If I want it with perfect traits now on every slot I would have to run it likely 200+ more times. That's just silly, considering how gear becomes outdated in this game.

That's not me having a stroke of bad rng or no luck with drops btw, it's normal with hundreds and hundreds of IC dungeons if you want the gear. Ask anyone that actually farmed them(not completed twice like you).

Prison drop rates are even more screwed as far as I've heard (I only do it for pledge).

Gear should obviously take a while to farm. But this crap droprate combined with unreasonably annoying rng, makes people just give up and not even bother. That's the problem.

But yeah, maybe doing something in-between is a good idea. Rng does seem to go on some kind of timer in ESO.

This is why I'm a staunch believer in a token system being added. I haven't had a chance to do more runs because I don't trust myself with the mechanics enough to pug it, but I've farmed a lot of the other dungeons and gotten incredibly bad RNG.

have to qoute youself though -,-'

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

MrDerrikk · February 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

This is why I'm a staunch believer in a token system being added. I haven't had a chance to do more runs because I don't trust myself with the mechanics enough to pug it, but I've farmed a lot of the other dungeons and gotten incredibly bad RNG.

have to qoute youself though -,-'

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Well I've done 2 runs of vWGT ever and got a helm and a piece of Imperium, SPC and Essence Thief, all but the Imperium on the same run. It's just RNG deciding it's not your day.

That said, some people have reported better RNG when you occasionally go and do another dungeon in-between runs, so maybe there's an anti-grind mechanic. It wouldn't surprise me...

Yes? I don't see how this comparison is noteworthy, as I was letting him know that the RNG is awful and in a lot of peoples minds not very good (like how he got the exact same drops from the end vDSA chest in his above post), and that I believe in a token system to gain drops. Those runs of vWGT were the only time RNG has shined on me, I used to farm Cyro Dolmens for a very, very long time to try and get Lich pieces and got absolutely none of them.