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  • Recremen
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    If y'all haven't been PvPing long enough to remember how bad the lag was pre-Imperial City patch, then maybe you don't have the breadth of experience necessary to appreciate how far they've come. Obvious we're not in a perfect place yet, but implying that they haven't been working on PvP and haven't been making adjustments to the servers and the code is ludicrous.
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  • AOECAPS
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    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    I'm going to try and convert this into a coherent argument.

    "PVPers encounter the most bugs, due mostly to server congestion, class imbalance, and the large sclae of battles. Although we have heard word that fixes are coming, we rarely encounter any. It feels like they have a bias towards PVE, with this lack of attention, and as seen in their DLC content being PVE focused. Even their Imperial City DLC had a lot of PVE elements to it even tho it was meant as a PVP DLC. I am admittedly bias, because I play a DK, and an unintended consequence of IC is that it makes NB the go-to class, causing what feels like an imbalance. I had hoped that, (even though it was expressly mentioned no PVP content would be discuseed) Today's ESO live, would at least give me a small bit of hope that changes are coming relatively soon, instead of the standard "no ETA" response. I was also looking forward to hearing any news that my DK class would finally be looked at to get some well deserved buffs. Does anyone know any information as to when the class balancing they had mentioned was going to be put into effect? [insert @ZOS_ ] "

    FIFY perhaps instead of just /rant ing, you could get a discussion going.
    The class balances have taken effect they are migrating the DKs and Templars of past to a new class called Nightblade and Sorc. Who needs heals when u can stack shields or cloak away. Who needs to be a little tankier and have passives and abilities that give back resources when you can cloak and vigor. You obviously have a L2P issue :)
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    Recremen wrote: »
    If y'all haven't been PvPing long enough to remember how bad the lag was pre-Imperial City patch, then maybe you don't have the breadth of experience necessary to appreciate how far they've come. Obvious we're not in a perfect place yet, but implying that they haven't been working on PvP and haven't been making adjustments to the servers and the code is ludicrous.

    Or indeed the balancing, all of which has been done to meet the PvPers' requirements.
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    ... I pvp every day anywhere from 4 to 5 hours to 10 to 14 hours, or until the lag gets so bad or the ability delay kicks in....

    Out of interest, do you log out and back in again at all in those hours or do you remain logged in for a single session?
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    Tandor wrote: »
    Recremen wrote: »
    If y'all haven't been PvPing long enough to remember how bad the lag was pre-Imperial City patch, then maybe you don't have the breadth of experience necessary to appreciate how far they've come. Obvious we're not in a perfect place yet, but implying that they haven't been working on PvP and haven't been making adjustments to the servers and the code is ludicrous.

    Or indeed the balancing, all of which has been done to meet the PvPers' requirements.

    Oh heck yeah! Still not perfect, of course, but I can finally play a stamina build without dragging my entire group down.
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  • Hortator Indoril Nerevar
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    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    nice joke
  • TheBull
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    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    DK is fine man. It's not faceroll now. Sounds like you want to be stupid OP again. All classes are in good shape at high levels of play. Soooo L2P.

    but yeah ZOS has been feeding the pvp community lies for years now... man that hurts to type. :/
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    TheBull wrote: »
    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    DK is fine man. It's not faceroll now. Sounds like you want to be stupid OP again. All classes are in good shape at high levels of play. Soooo L2P.

    but yeah ZOS has been feeding the pvp community lies for years now... man that hurts to type. :/

    magic dk is not fine it has no real survivability pvp coagulating blood is ridiculous igneous shield is laughable as a shield i use it for resource management pretty much all damge apart from whip is a dot,, lowest burstdamage of any classes
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  • TheBull
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    TheBull wrote: »
    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    DK is fine man. It's not faceroll now. Sounds like you want to be stupid OP again. All classes are in good shape at high levels of play. Soooo L2P.

    but yeah ZOS has been feeding the pvp community lies for years now... man that hurts to type. :/

    magic dk is not fine it has no real survivability pvp coagulating blood is ridiculous igneous shield is laughable as a shield i use it for resource management pretty much all damge apart from whip is a dot,, lowest burstdamage of any classes

    At high levels of play it's fine man and extremely strong against some class combinations like magicka NBs. It does have a rougher time with stam DKS (who doesn't though) and good stam NBs though. That's how things should be though. There should not be a one size fits all class out there.
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    TheBull wrote: »
    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    DK is fine man. It's not faceroll now. Sounds like you want to be stupid OP again. All classes are in good shape at high levels of play. Soooo L2P.

    but yeah ZOS has been feeding the pvp community lies for years now... man that hurts to type. :/
    Not all classes are in good shape Templars (not healers the class is more than that) need reworked and so do magicka DK. Of course you probably just roll NB or sorc and you currently enjoy the "meta".only things in good place are magicka sorcs and both versions of NB. It isn't a L2P issue but you do have a L2Commonsense issue
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    Didgerion wrote: »
    They explained in plain English that there are ton of balance changes coming. There will be a DLC patch note next week and the next two shows will be dedicated for addressing that.

    So yeah you have one more week to whine about your DK.....prepare your dialogs for your Templar and Sorc tho....you might need to whine for them too next DLC

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  • TheBull
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    AOECAPS wrote: »
    TheBull wrote: »
    we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

    DK is fine man. It's not faceroll now. Sounds like you want to be stupid OP again. All classes are in good shape at high levels of play. Soooo L2P.

    but yeah ZOS has been feeding the pvp community lies for years now... man that hurts to type. :/
    Not all classes are in good shape Templars (not healers the class is more than that) need reworked and so do magicka DK. Of course you probably just roll NB or sorc and you currently enjoy the "meta".only things in good place are magicka sorcs and both versions of NB. It isn't a L2P issue but you do have a L2Commonsense issue

    2 NB's 2 Templar, 1 Stam Sorc, 1DK (Argonian).

    I've played all of these at a high level against the best the NA has to offer. Imho stam sorc lacks diversity and synergy among skills. Magicka Templar can be explosive and near unkillable. Stam Temp has really good synergy among class skills, weapon skills, and guild skills. Magicka DK hard counters nearly all magikca builds and has deadly CC.

    Sorry to derail. I agree 100% ZOS has let the pvp community down.
    Edited by TheBull on January 30, 2016 7:22PM
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