zos seem to neglect pvp

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume i spent untold amounts on xp scrolls to get to cp cap im not a transfer so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

K4RMA · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

So you think that just because you buy every crap item from the crown store that somehow you are more important than the people who don't?

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

So you think that just because you buy every crap item from the crown store that somehow you are more important than the people who don't?

no i never said im more important atall your saying im less important to zos for expressing my opinion im saying as someone who supports there game as much as i do why would they??? im not saying they do that was you

strikeback1247 · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

You can always express your opinion, but do you really think this will accomplish anything? Your opinion is shared by many other players. This opinion has been voiced countless of times. I'm very sure that zeni knows what is going on and knows what the problems are. Do they have the fix yet? No. Do they fix things the best way? No. Will your post help change this? No.

K4RMA · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

So you think that just because you buy every crap item from the crown store that somehow you are more important than the people who don't?

no i never said im more important atall your saying im less important to zos for expressing my opinion im saying as someone who supports there game as much as i do why would they??? im not saying they do that was you

I'm saying that you think you're more important than people because you spend $100 a year buying the crap ZOSE puts out on the crown store

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

So you think that just because you buy every crap item from the crown store that somehow you are more important than the people who don't?

no i never said im more important atall your saying im less important to zos for expressing my opinion im saying as someone who supports there game as much as i do why would they??? im not saying they do that was you

I'm saying that you think you're more important than people because you spend $100 a year buying the crap ZOSE puts out on the crown store

lol your soo funny you keep twisting everything you originally said im the reason they treat pvpers like crap and then ive said why would they for expressing my opinion?? then said i support the game through all of that so why when i support a game can i not have a opinion, all these pve fanboys are like *** youth trying to deny me my say hillarious

Xendyn · January 2016

Lord_Legion wrote: »

I'm saying that you think you're more important than people because you spend $100 a year buying the crap ZOSE puts out on the crown store

Ok, total derail here. I have to ask, why do you keep calling them ZOSE? it's ZOS. Zenimax Online Services. If you have your own private funny acronym, pls share

Just genuinely curious.

Sausage · January 2016

I wonder when they reveal next PVP DLC, didnt they say they arent ready to talk about it, but when?

K4RMA · January 2016

Xendyn wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

I'm saying that you think you're more important than people because you spend $100 a year buying the crap ZOSE puts out on the crown store

Ok, total derail here. I have to ask, why do you keep calling them ZOSE? it's ZOS. Zenimax Online Services. If you have your own private funny acronym, pls share

Just genuinely curious.

Actually its Zenimax Online Studios, i call it ZOSE for Zenimax Offline So Erect

K4RMA · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

just cause they said in show it wasnt should we not express our frustration over being ignored??? they said last time wroebel might be on show he wasnt should that not frustrate us?

ur the reason PVPers get treated like crap from the community and ZOSE, u treat us like spoilt children when we are second class to PVEers like you

im the reason :') cause i want to express my opinion that tickled me fyi i support the game in every way i buy every mount apart from ice horse looked seriously gay like my lil pony or something always subbed to eso plus and bought IC dlc and will outright buy anyother pvp dlcs i paid 2000 crowns for nord hero costume so why would they want to treat me someone who supports there game like crap for expressing my opinion??

So you think that just because you buy every crap item from the crown store that somehow you are more important than the people who don't?

no i never said im more important atall your saying im less important to zos for expressing my opinion im saying as someone who supports there game as much as i do why would they??? im not saying they do that was you

I'm saying that you think you're more important than people because you spend $100 a year buying the crap ZOSE puts out on the crown store

lol your soo funny you keep twisting everything you originally said im the reason they treat pvpers like crap and then ive said why would they for expressing my opinion?? then said i support the game through all of that so why when i support a game can i not have a opinion, all these pve fanboys are like *** youth trying to deny me my say hillarious

sigh i meant the OP is the reason why zose treats PVPers as second class lol

Xendyn · January 2016

Lord_Legion wrote: »

Xendyn wrote: »

Lord_Legion wrote: »

I'm saying that you think you're more important than people because you spend $100 a year buying the crap ZOSE puts out on the crown store

Ok, total derail here. I have to ask, why do you keep calling them ZOSE? it's ZOS. Zenimax Online Services. If you have your own private funny acronym, pls share

Just genuinely curious.

Actually its Zenimax Online Studios, i call it ZOSE for Zenimax Offline So Erect

I figured it was a private joke. Thx for explaining

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

the OP is my opinion though

Jura23 · January 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

Yeah, the PVP spammers were really annoying.

This chat was about the new DLC but apparently some PVPers felt otherwise. Obviously they can't read.

this thread isnt just about eso so you must have selective reading and last eso live they said wroebel might be on so maybe some pvpers just take there word for it

Well, with a major update coming our way... It's pretty obvious why they spent all the time talking about that instead of anything else.

Well it's not really "coming our way". Still more than a month away. And since they have these major updates each queater, this isn't the best argument.

Jura23 · January 2016

Sausage wrote: »

I wonder when they reveal next PVP DLC, didnt they say they arent ready to talk about it, but when?

Next PvP DLC is gonna be tied to arenas, that's my guess. Q4 2016 at best. Whether the arenas will be DLC only or base game is probably still to be determined. Somebody correct me if you know more.

Azarath_tiberius · January 2016

Jura23 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

I wonder when they reveal next PVP DLC, didnt they say they arent ready to talk about it, but when?

Next PvP DLC is gonna be tied to arenas, that's my guess. Q4 2016 at best. Whether the arenas will be DLC only or base game is probably still to be determined. Somebody correct me if you know more.

Don't fool yourself, arenas will be DLC exclusive and there's probably going to be some PvE elements to it... It happened before, it 'll happen again.

Alucardo · January 2016

This one was clearly about Thieves Guild only, so that's what I expected and chose not to watch it. If you watched it expecting there to be stuff about PVP, then I'm sorry, but that's you're own fault.
I hear the next two ESO Live's will be dedicated to base game stuff, so if we hear nothing in them two, then you have every right to complain.
As for neglecting PVP, well, that much is already obvious.

Dominoid · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Pangnirtung wrote: »

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

They said MANY TIMES that today's ESO live wouldn't be about anything BUT the new zone yet you annoying af pvp whiners kept spamming chat over and over.

Yeah, the PVP spammers were really annoying.

This chat was about the new DLC but apparently some PVPers felt otherwise. Obviously they can't read.

this thread isnt just about eso live so you must have selective reading and last eso live they said wroebel might be on so maybe some pvpers just take there word for it

I think you should lookup the definition of the word "might".

MaxwellC · January 2016

@spawn_to_kill

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

It would've been great if every single ask us anything question didn't involve lore or something completely irrelevant to class balances and skills. This game has a lot of issues with those two things alongside PvP lag; in other words those questions should've been addressed rather than some random lore piece that a small group would've really cared about.

Once we get at-least class skill/balances down we can focus on lore unless the lore guy is on the show then obviously I'll yield him the lime-light he deserves.

That's fair, Max. We do plan to have Eric Wrobel on one of the next ESO Live shows, and he'll be able to speak to class balance and skill questions (including what is coming with the next major update.) We'll put up a thread to get questions for him, before the show.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom I'm glad to hear those news because I'm really dying to ask him about upcoming skill changes/class balances especially with a skill called "Flames of oblivion" (which use to be my favorite prior to nerf/change)

When will the next ESO Live be sometime towards the end of the month or next month around the same time e.g. 2/15/2016?

It's not yet decided which show we'll have him on, but we expect it to be one of the next two upcoming ones (so, 1/29 or 2/12.)

Yup I know how you feel but here is some light on the issue that was raised last ESO live (Jan 15th)

Pangnirtung · January 2016

Jhunn wrote: »

Fun to see the PvE carebears coming to defend the fact that ZOS has worsened and neglected PvP for.... how long?

What is more fun is to see the constant whining by "toughbears". Really. Nerf this. Nerf that. This is OP. L2P. etc, etc.

Islyn · January 2016

I feel for people having bad lag in PVP etc - but just the sheer amount of constant complaining I LEGITIMATELY and NON-trolly want to know WHY PVPers even stay?

I really want to know how anyone keeps playing a game they hate this much.

If they don't hate it so much then why so much constant complaining all the time?

Why not just leave? If you go to a restaurant and cannot stand the food, you just don't go back. You don't keep going back over and over ordering the same thing and hoping for something different.

(I AM NOT telling anyone to leave or anything. I feel like people are just banging their heads against a brick wall and won't stop is all.)

Xendyn · January 2016

Islyn wrote: »

I feel for people having bad lag in PVP etc - but just the sheer amount of constant complaining I LEGITIMATELY and NON-trolly want to know WHY PVPers even stay?

I really want to know how anyone keeps playing a game they hate this much.

If they don't hate it so much then why so much constant complaining all the time?

Why not just leave? If you go to a restaurant and cannot stand the food, you just don't go back. You don't keep going back over and over ordering the same thing and hoping for something different.

(I AM NOT telling anyone to leave or anything. I feel like people are just banging their heads against a brick wall and won't stop is all.)

Because a lot of them came here for the large scale AVA. There has been nothing like it since DAOC.
Because it used to be awesome then the lag came in and it hasn't worked right for the last year and a half. Now they are frustrated and bitter.

Many of the original pvpers Have left. But until CU comes, there will still not be another game with large scale AVA.
At that point, if ZOS doesn't have it togethe, they probably Will be gone.

ZOS is running out of time.

Islyn · January 2016

Xendyn wrote: »

Islyn wrote: »

I feel for people having bad lag in PVP etc - but just the sheer amount of constant complaining I LEGITIMATELY and NON-trolly want to know WHY PVPers even stay?

I really want to know how anyone keeps playing a game they hate this much.

If they don't hate it so much then why so much constant complaining all the time?

Why not just leave? If you go to a restaurant and cannot stand the food, you just don't go back. You don't keep going back over and over ordering the same thing and hoping for something different.

(I AM NOT telling anyone to leave or anything. I feel like people are just banging their heads against a brick wall and won't stop is all.)

Because a lot of them came here for the large scale AVA. There has been nothing like it since DAOC.
Because it used to be awesome then the lag came in and it hasn't worked right for the last year and a half. Now they are frustrated and bitter.

Many of the original pvpers Have left. But until CU comes, there will still not be another game with large scale AVA.
At that point, if ZOS doesn't have it togethe, they probably Will be gone.

ZOS is running out of time.

You speak truth I remember it before the lag.

I was only talking about as you say, it having been since 'the lighting patch' it has really been a long time.

Strider_Roshin · January 2016

If you're a stam DK you should not be complaining.

Kippesnikke · January 2016

spawn is a casual. i dont like weekend players.

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

Kippesnikke wrote: »

spawn is a casual. i dont like weekend players.

im a casual :') im only stamina because magic is a joke now or id be a redguard race and its not just that countless buggs since launch i mentioned a few earlier and my take flight constantly bugs out and in 1 v situation i build it up hoping for it to save me do it then just see wings on my back or use talons or caltrops and litterally go flying across the map and usually dies none of this seems like there even trying to fix we just have to put up with it, if it was a pve glitch ruining your fun since launch it would have been sorted ,months ago

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

Kippesnikke wrote: »

spawn is a casual. i dont like weekend players.

im a casual :') yeah my pvp ranks shows how little i play xD im only stamina because magic is a joke now or id be a redguard race and its not just that countless buggs since launch i mentioned a few earlier and my take flight constantly bugs out and in 1 v situation i build it up hoping for it to save me do it then just see wings on my back or use talons or caltrops and litterally go flying across the map and usually dies none of this seems like there even trying to fix we just have to put up with it, if it was a pve glitch ruining your fun since launch it would have been sorted ,months ago

kevlarto_ESO · January 2016

Islyn wrote: »

I feel for people having bad lag in PVP etc - but just the sheer amount of constant complaining I LEGITIMATELY and NON-trolly want to know WHY PVPers even stay?

I really want to know how anyone keeps playing a game they hate this much.

If they don't hate it so much then why so much constant complaining all the time?

Why not just leave? If you go to a restaurant and cannot stand the food, you just don't go back. You don't keep going back over and over ordering the same thing and hoping for something different.

(I AM NOT telling anyone to leave or anything. I feel like people are just banging their heads against a brick wall and won't stop is all.)

I think a lot of us still have hope that they will get lag under control, they know there is a problem and all the complaining at this point is not going to get anything done any faster, I don't think they have the staff to work on all aspects of the game at the same time any longer, I pvp every day anywhere from 4 to 5 hours to 10 to 14 hours, or until the lag gets so bad or the ability delay kicks in, I go play another game, no need to complain it is what it is at this point. If they don't get it fixed and the faithful lose faith and move on oh well, just a game.

spawn_to_kill · January 2016

i just miss stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnSMFFJ1qJg

Lenikus · January 2016

I would like to point out that the 'pvp players' that come here are at most, like 100 people worldwide. out of the thousands that play. Zeni knows this, they ignore most of the posts for a reason.

Lightninvash · January 2016

spawn_to_kill wrote: »

we have to put up with bugs for months never get much fresh content IC was terrible a pvp dlc that killed pvp a great idea!!! im bias cause im a dk that dlc turnt my class into a joke pvp and its still not sorted and todays eso live annoyed me cause all i want is some info on if you will be balancing classes and what changes will be made to my class

what isn't one PVE PVP content enough to keep pvpers content I mean its just buggy and all with lag and all it should be more than enough better than not having any.

on a serious note they do tend to cater towards PVE more than PVP. I mean they prob only have the one Dev woring on PVP whilst the rest are either forum mods/crown store people/ PVE content people haha