Help - can't explain loss of magicka regeneration

BreacaT · January 2016

Playing a DD magicka templar, last evening I completed crafting my v16 armour but when comparing it to previous stats I seem to have lost 180 Magicka Regen.

The previous set was V14, but I deconstructed it all before noticing, so I'm comparing it against screen shots from when I was wearing V12 armour. They are the same sets/traits/enachants, I've just gone from v12 purple to v16 gold. I'm still using the same jewellery and weapons that I was at v12. I have 2 of the 3 willpower pieces that I know will boost it as will my v16 swords, but for the sake of this comparison I've only effectively upgraded my armour. Changes to champion points are only really more into areas that would improve magicka region.

Also, the effects of the potion in the stats doesn't seem to add up either.

In summary....

Mundas : The Shadow - Increase critical strike damage

5 x Light Julianos
2 x Heavy Magnus
2 x Swords Magnus
3 x Soulshine Jewellery (V10)

Hat & Chest - Max Health, rest Max Magicka

So the stats in detail...




					V12 Stats		V16 Stats
					=========		=========


MageLight (ML) = MaxMag +5%

			NoBuff	ML	ML+	ML+Pot+   	NoBuff	ML	ML+	ML+Pot+
					Food	Food				Food	Food
Maximum Magicka		27075	28242	33705	33705		28951	30199	36171	36171
Magicka Recovery	 1636	 1636	 1636	 1878		 1455	 1455	 1455	 1670
Maximum Health		11670	11670	16704	16704		13427	13427	19362	19362
Health Recovery		  373	  373	  373	  442		  373	  373	  373	  442
Maximum Stamina		 8915	 8915	 8915	 8915		 9016	 9016	 9016	 9016
Stamina Recovery	  514	  514	  514	  514		  514	  514	  514	  514

Spell Damage		 1674	 1674	 1674	 1674		 1709    1709	 1709	 1709
Spell Crit		44.0%	53.9%  	53.9%	53.9%	 	43.8%	53.8%	53.8%	53.8%
Weapon Damage		 1432	 1432	 1432	 1432		 1432	 1432	 1432	 1432
Weapon Crit		25.0%	25.0%	25.0%	25.0%		25.0%	25.0%	25.0%	25.0%
Spell Resistance	13672	13672	13672	13672		15005	15005 	15005	15005
Physical Resistance	 9947	 9947	 9947	 9947	        10988	10988	10988	10988
Critical Resistance	    0	    0	    0	    0	    	    0	    0  	    0	    0


FOOD 					
	Max Health			+5066			+5393
	Max Magic			+4635			+4936

Spell Crit Pot	
	Health Regen 	+  20%
	Mag Regen 	+  20%
	Spell Crit 	= 2191



Champion Points
---------------

The Tower				
	Magician			 7			18

The Lover 			
	Arcanist - MagRegen		40 (13.2%)		45 (14.3%)
	Healthy - HealthRegen		35			35 (12.0%)

The Apprentice			
	Elfborn - SpellCrit		 8			 9 ( 4.6%)
	SpellErosion			22			22 ( 8.7%)
	Ele Expert			 			 1 ( 1.0%)
	
The Ritual		
	Thaumaturge - Damage		48			62 (17.9%)
	PreciseStrikes - Criticals	 1			 1 ( 1.0%)
	Mighty - -Phys Damage		 1			 1 ( 1.0%)
	Piercing			 1			 1 ( 1.0%)

The Steed				 		
	Spell Shield - Spell Resist	 			 1 ( 1.0%)

The Lady			
	Light Armour - Phys Resis 	61			68 (10.5%)
	Thick Skinned - Reduce DOT	12			15 ( 6.5%)
	Hardy - Reduce Damage		 5			 8 ( 4.3%)
	Ele Defend - Reduce Damage	 4			 5 ( 3.1%)

The Lord 							
	Bastion - Incease damage effect				 1 ( 1.0%)


Mundas - The Shadow - Increase critical strike damage
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Weapons - Dual Wield
--------------------

Sword 1 - Magnus, V12 Purple, Weapon/Spell Crit +3%

Sword 2 - Magnus, V12 Purple, Penetraion +6%
	

Jewellery
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Soulshine Set, Arcane - v10 'Green'
	Max Mag +787
	SpellCrit +560
	
	Ring 1  Mag Regen   +153, Max Mag +710 
	Ring 2  Mag Regen   +153, Max Mag +710
	Pendant  SpellResis +501, Max Mag +710


Julianos Set Bonus	V12 Purple	V16 Gold
------------------------------------------------
	Spell Crit 	+624		+688
	Max Mag 	+877		+967
	Spell Crit 	+624		+688
	Spell Dmg 	+273		+299


Magnus Set Bonus' 	V12 Purple	V16 Gold
------------------------------------------------
	Max Mag 	+877		+922
	Mag Regen 	+117		+123
	Spell Dmg 	+117		+123


Gold V16 Armour Stats
---------------------
Julianos Jerkin 	Armour 1396	Max Health  954		Divines 7.5%
Julianos Breeches	Armour 1221	Max Mag     868		Divines 7.5%
Julianos Gloves		Armour  698	Max Mag     351		Divines 7.5%
Julianos Eps		Armour 1221	Max Mag     351		Divines 7.5%
Julianos Hat		Armour 1221	Max Health  954		Divines 7.5%

Magnus Girdle		Armour 1039	Max Mag     351		Divines 7.5%
Magnus Boots		Armour 2425	Max Mag     351		Divines 7.5%

Total 			Armour 9221	MaxMag 2272	Max Health:1908

Un-equiping/re-equiping and lots of other random things appear to make no difference.

The other weird thing is a REDUCTION in max magicka when I equip my swords but I'm putting this down to the maths involved when applying set (Magnus) bonus' from set items of mixed levels/qualities (v16 gold boots & belt plus v12 purple swords).

I can't see what has happened since I was v12 three weeks ago that would account for this loss.

Thanks for looking.

Autolycus · January 2016

I'm not certain I know what's causing your magicka regen to drop, but a couple of things come to mind that you might want to check (if you haven't already):

1. Do you have the same skills slotted as you had before? Perhaps a passive benefit for having something like Repentance on your bar is making the difference, or an ultimate.

2. Have you since cured vampirism?

3. Did you change any of your jewelry glyphs when you switched to vr16 versions? I know you mentioned having the same glyphs, but wanted to be sure you checked the jewelry ones too.

The only other thing that comes to mind is the occasional bug where sometimes the game thinks you are still on your off-bar when you've switched to main, or vice-versa. I've noticed a drop in certain stats like this, and the fix for me has always been to bar-swap several times, or re-equip the gear.

At this time, I'm not sure what else to try. But I will keep it in mind and let you know if I think of anything else!

BreacaT · January 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

I'm not certain I know what's causing your magicka regen to drop, but a couple of things come to mind that you might want to check (if you haven't already):

1. Do you have the same skills slotted as you had before? Perhaps a passive benefit for having something like Repentance on your bar is making the difference, or an ultimate.

That made me think...I use to use repentance (+10% regen), went back in, re-slotted it and the definitely improved it but coming in now at 1564 it's still short and not 10% which would make it around 1600.

As for your other points, these stats are with me still using the same weapons/jewellery as I had back then.

Thanks for looking, I know a screen full of text and numbers can be a bit bewildering!

BreacaT · January 2016

Having said the above about repentance, I don't think that is the case. Repentance buffs stamina, health and mag regen, and without repentance slotted, my figures for health and stamina regen are the same as v12. Bummer.

Autolycus · January 2016

BreacaT wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

I'm not certain I know what's causing your magicka regen to drop, but a couple of things come to mind that you might want to check (if you haven't already):

1. Do you have the same skills slotted as you had before? Perhaps a passive benefit for having something like Repentance on your bar is making the difference, or an ultimate.

That made me think...I use to use repentance (+10% regen), went back in, re-slotted it and the definitely improved it but coming in now at 1564 it's still short and not 10% which would make it around 1600.

As for your other points, these stats are with me still using the same weapons/jewellery as I had back then.

Thanks for looking, I know a screen full of text and numbers can be a bit bewildering!

If that's the case, then what Mages Guild skills are you using (or which ones were you using before, that you may not be using now)?

I forget the exact % increase off-hand, but having a Mages Guild ability on your bar increases max magicka and magicka recovery. If you had Meteor on your bar before but don't now, that could be the difference as well.

BreacaT · January 2016

Another good point, still got Inner Light, Structured Entropy and Ice Comet slotted, they're the only ones I've unlocked. The buff is quoted as being 2% per item.

It's a real puzzle. It really looks like something was over-buffing it previously, maybe there has been a sneaky 'nerf' (hate to use that word) somewhere.

Autolycus · January 2016

It's possible, yeah. I'm sure it's something we're missing, though... I just can't think of what it is

puffy99 · January 2016

Wouldn't one Med Armor give you more stats with Undaunted?

BreacaT · January 2016

I have toyed with the idea of running one medium but would lose out on the added armour bonus if two heavy, and I'm already squishy enough. Once I get my medium traits up I will make one up to see what it does. Generally, I haven't really looked at the undaunted skill line, apart from trapping webs.

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2016

puffy99 wrote: »

Wouldn't one Med Armor give you more stats with Undaunted?

Not regeneration just max stats either A you are in cyrodiil or wrothgar and the battle spirit changed it IE a level up reduced your boosted stats (BS was changed itself so it is a possibility) B a stealth nerf.

BreacaT · January 2016

Went to cyrodyl once a long time back so not that and these stats were taken in mournhold.

Thanks anyhow.

Autolycus · January 2016

puffy99 wrote: »

Wouldn't one Med Armor give you more stats with Undaunted?

This is actually a good point. If you had a light armor piece you were previously using, but are now using a medium piece instead, then you would have lost magicka recovery due to the light armor passives.

BreacaT · January 2016

Ok, but I'm not wearing any medium.