Compendium of skills/abilities that require change.

tennant94 · January 2016

Post your opinion's on skills that require change here and maybe zos will look at the most frequently posted skills.

I'l start with the skills I feel need a change/rebalance, this is just my opinion and anyone who posts in this thread are entitled to there's.

Wrecking blow. CC is to long. Unbashable, channelled skill. Cfrags is bashable but the one mostly used in range of it been bashed, isn't bashable... ok.

Ambush. Can be spammed leaving players literally unable to move while dealing more damage than many dps abilities: force shock and morphs, Puncture and morphs, puncturing sweeps and morphs.

Crit rush and stampede. Spamable gap closers, 1 dealing more damage than a lot of dps abilities and the other an 8 second snare! 8 seconds you are unable to move. Lotus fan also has the annoying snare which should be removed.

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

Shadow image. Range and duration need increasing also needs to take priority over other skills. For example, I will press shadow image before a wrecking blow but the wrecking blow just knocks me back to where I was. This is ridiculous considering i' have 'teleported'.

Dragon blood. Not a good enough heal doesn't compete even with rally or vigor.

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

Snares. All snares in the game should be removed. They suck.

Asmael · January 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Wrecking blow. CC is to long. Unbashable, channelled skill. Cfrags is bashable but the one mostly used in range of it been bashed, isn't bashable... ok.

WB is bugged as hell. Before any balance, this skill should stop being as buggy as it currently is.

Ambush. Can be spammed leaving players literally unable to move while dealing more damage than many dps abilities: force shock and morphs, Puncture and morphs, puncturing sweeps and morphs.

Crit rush and stampede. Spamable gap closers, 1 dealing more damage than a lot of dps abilities and the other an 8 second snare! 8 seconds you are unable to move. Lotus fan also has the annoying snare which should be removed.

More than the individual abilities, the root when someone is using a gap closer on you should go. Less damage on gap closers? Why not.

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

While nerfing it to 1 dot purged is drastic, it seems that 2 is the most reasonable. 4 is an overkill and is a huge middle finger to any DoT build out there (hint: there are none competitive enough).

Shadow image. Range and duration need increasing also needs to take priority over other skills. For example, I will press shadow image before a wrecking blow but the wrecking blow just knocks me back to where I was. This is ridiculous considering i' have 'teleported'.

No thoughts, might have to do with WB being what it is: a buggy mess.

Dragon blood. Not a good enough heal doesn't compete even with rally or vigor.

Applies to all health based abilities (Bone shield, sun shield, Clannfear heal...)

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

No thoughts, I'll let @blabafat comment if necessary

Snares. All snares in the game should be removed. They suck.

I'll disagree on this. This is all

tennant94 · January 2016

Thanks for the feedback, Asmael

bikerangelo · January 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

That would turn dark flare into sun fire, which is also pretty terrible since dots are currently worthless in this game. No thanks.

eventide03b14a_ESO · January 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Post your opinion's on skills that require change here and maybe zos will look at the most frequently posted skills.

I'l start with the skills I feel need a change/rebalance, this is just my opinion and anyone who posts in this thread are entitled to there's.

Wrecking blow. CC is to long. Unbashable, channelled skill. Cfrags is bashable but the one mostly used in range of it been bashed, isn't bashable... ok.

Ambush. Can be spammed leaving players literally unable to move while dealing more damage than many dps abilities: force shock and morphs, Puncture and morphs, puncturing sweeps and morphs.

Crit rush and stampede. Spamable gap closers, 1 dealing more damage than a lot of dps abilities and the other an 8 second snare! 8 seconds you are unable to move. Lotus fan also has the annoying snare which should be removed.

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

Shadow image. Range and duration need increasing also needs to take priority over other skills. For example, I will press shadow image before a wrecking blow but the wrecking blow just knocks me back to where I was. This is ridiculous considering i' have 'teleported'.

Dragon blood. Not a good enough heal doesn't compete even with rally or vigor.

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

Snares. All snares in the game should be removed. They suck.

I'm surprised you didn't mention any sorc abilities. On a side note, I wonder how long till this thread devolves into pointless name-calling.

danno8 · January 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

I play a Templar and I think Purifying ritual is insanely too effective at removing stuff. 5 negative effects? Good luck DoT builds, lol. I can wipe all effects in 1 GCD that it would take for a DK 4 GCD's to apply.

In general I think purging is a little too easy in this game.

tennant94 · January 2016

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

tennant94 wrote: »

Post your opinion's on skills that require change here and maybe zos will look at the most frequently posted skills.

I'l start with the skills I feel need a change/rebalance, this is just my opinion and anyone who posts in this thread are entitled to there's.

Wrecking blow. CC is to long. Unbashable, channelled skill. Cfrags is bashable but the one mostly used in range of it been bashed, isn't bashable... ok.

Ambush. Can be spammed leaving players literally unable to move while dealing more damage than many dps abilities: force shock and morphs, Puncture and morphs, puncturing sweeps and morphs.

Crit rush and stampede. Spamable gap closers, 1 dealing more damage than a lot of dps abilities and the other an 8 second snare! 8 seconds you are unable to move. Lotus fan also has the annoying snare which should be removed.

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

Shadow image. Range and duration need increasing also needs to take priority over other skills. For example, I will press shadow image before a wrecking blow but the wrecking blow just knocks me back to where I was. This is ridiculous considering i' have 'teleported'.

Dragon blood. Not a good enough heal doesn't compete even with rally or vigor.

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

Snares. All snares in the game should be removed. They suck.

I'm surprised you didn't mention any sorc abilities. On a side note, I wonder how long till this thread devolves into pointless name-calling.

I think sorc abilities are balanced.

Artjuh90 · January 2016

tennant94 wrote: »

Post your opinion's on skills that require change here and maybe zos will look at the most frequently posted skills.

I'l start with the skills I feel need a change/rebalance, this is just my opinion and anyone who posts in this thread are entitled to there's.

Wrecking blow. CC is to long. Unbashable, channelled skill. Cfrags is bashable but the one mostly used in range of it been bashed, isn't bashable... ok.

Ambush. Can be spammed leaving players literally unable to move while dealing more damage than many dps abilities: force shock and morphs, Puncture and morphs, puncturing sweeps and morphs.

Crit rush and stampede. Spamable gap closers, 1 dealing more damage than a lot of dps abilities and the other an 8 second snare! 8 seconds you are unable to move. Lotus fan also has the annoying snare which should be removed.

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

Shadow image. Range and duration need increasing also needs to take priority over other skills. For example, I will press shadow image before a wrecking blow but the wrecking blow just knocks me back to where I was. This is ridiculous considering i' have 'teleported'.

Dragon blood. Not a good enough heal doesn't compete even with rally or vigor.

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

Snares. All snares in the game should be removed. They suck.

let the hate on NB begin lawls

tennant94 · January 2016

danno8 wrote: »

tennant94 wrote: »

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

I play a Templar and I think Purifying ritual is insanely too effective at removing stuff. 5 negative effects? Good luck DoT builds, lol. I can wipe all effects in 1 GCD that it would take for a DK 4 GCD's to apply.

In general I think purging is a little too easy in this game.

True I just think cloak is used primarily to avoid damge and the cleanse it gives is overkill.

tennant94 · January 2016

Artjuh90 wrote: »

tennant94 wrote: »

Post your opinion's on skills that require change here and maybe zos will look at the most frequently posted skills.

I'l start with the skills I feel need a change/rebalance, this is just my opinion and anyone who posts in this thread are entitled to there's.

Wrecking blow. CC is to long. Unbashable, channelled skill. Cfrags is bashable but the one mostly used in range of it been bashed, isn't bashable... ok.

Ambush. Can be spammed leaving players literally unable to move while dealing more damage than many dps abilities: force shock and morphs, Puncture and morphs, puncturing sweeps and morphs.

Crit rush and stampede. Spamable gap closers, 1 dealing more damage than a lot of dps abilities and the other an 8 second snare! 8 seconds you are unable to move. Lotus fan also has the annoying snare which should be removed.

Dark cloak. I actually play a magicka nb and yes, cloak needs changing. Especially dark cloak, it should remove 1 dot, 4 is over the top considering you barely have 4 on you anyway. The invisibilty aspect of the skill is fine, the cost is fine but the counters to cloak are not available to enough classes or builds.

Shadow image. Range and duration need increasing also needs to take priority over other skills. For example, I will press shadow image before a wrecking blow but the wrecking blow just knocks me back to where I was. This is ridiculous considering i' have 'teleported'.

Dragon blood. Not a good enough heal doesn't compete even with rally or vigor.

Dark flare. Should deal less damage but be insta cast. Its too easy to see it coming and avoid it.(Templars need something spammable, its all I can think of.)

Snares. All snares in the game should be removed. They suck.

let the hate on NB begin lawls

I love nb's but some of the class skills are too strong compared to other classes skills.

JaJaLuka · January 2016

-Negate needs a buff and please make it visible like it used to be.
-Pls fix overload so it doesn't get stuck on heavy attacks anymore.
-Fix restoring twilight, it doesn't restore anything.

I'm sure there's more, can't be bothered thinking of them though.

Tryxus · January 2016

If I may make a suggestion for Suprise Attack and Ambush:

How about the Armor Debuff from SA and the Mmajor Emmpower from Ambush become stealth only?Just like how SA has a stun if it hits while stealthed, so should these effects be activated if the skill is used during stealth

This way, NB can still gank althouh they would have to choose between 2 attacks for opening combat, but they can still weave the attacks without buffing/debuffing their target at the same time

Otherwise: good list of suggestions OP. Agreed