Officially derailed. Thanks Cavalier!

This is about the internal issues in EP, not our inferiority with the other factions (although the two are tied together). If we could work together and give them a strong competitor it would benefit everyone

OP, as a yellow I see you guys struggling from my side of the fence. It is no secret you guys have leadership problems. The best you can hope for is trying to be positive and not siding with anyone on any one topic. I run solo a majority of the time, and I listen to AD bickering, just stay out of it and focus on what you need to accomplish for your campaign. And, gently, remind your other fellows to do the same.

Stay away from argumentative mind set people. Your campaign is about everyone in it together, not just some of the pieces working independently. Mind you, even if you run solo, there is still much you can accomplish to assist the bigger badder guilds out there-- without all the politics.

To name a few things one can accomplish solo;

1. Cloaking out and burning siege, or ganking reinforcements
2. Getting on Mic and warning of possible danger in area chat or using siege in the direction you see a enemy at
3. Res'ing another player
4. Protecting another player[especially healers and those on siege] - I have gotten a lot of respect points for stopping to res in the middle of a fight or saving someones hide by popping a detect potion
5. Just helping with defense and offense in general, like fearing a blob of enemies or healing

Just chill guys. Baconator is a good player like other people from EP and AD. The difference, is that baconator's group is full of skilled pvp players. This group just use prox det and run inside the other zergs spamming AOE's. It is not a big deal. Also, DC are the most populated faction, they have numbers to do everything (of course they bring ppl from other campigns to help them out). That's why everybody lag so hard when baconator is around: he always brings 3-4 full groups with him.

Now that the most organized DC pvp guild left azura, look how easy is to take the blues down. Blues used to be in the top every single day and now they can't hold anything. AD in my opinion has the most organized pvp guilds. They always run together and they wipe everything in front of them.

EP guilds indeed don't work together (I am a EP player). But the problem in azura is not baconator, it is not Ully (I hate that immortal DK), is not fiftyshades or jack or the big zergs. The problem is the lag!

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »

OP, as a yellow I see you guys struggling from my side of the fence. It is no secret you guys have leadership problems. The best you can hope for is trying to be positive and not siding with anyone on any one topic. I run solo a majority of the time, and AD gets a lot of bickering people, just stay out of it and focus on what you need to accomplish for your campaign. And, gently, remind your other fellows to do the same.

Thank you. This is what I try to do but there is a stigma tied to being seen running with any of the previously mentioned guilds. Since the leaders all hate each other you can't get an invite to any of the others.

I'm too weak to solo PVP but maybe someday )

I've ran with most of the major guilds on AD in party at least once or twice. I just follow instructions, and when I feel its time to bail to go do my own thing, then that's what I do. I don't get hate PMs, because everyone in the Dominion KNOWS I work only for them and have their best interest in mind. Don't worry too much about what other people think of you, just focus on leveling your guy. Get into PvP, and think about what you want to do in PvP. Make goals to get those things accomplished. A big big part of PvP is learning how to self improve and become a better player. Figure out those goals you have and the politics will not even bother you at that point. Because by then, you will be trying to figure out what is the best way to handle different situations, you'll have your tools all figured out, and you'll make good decisions. These things, all corner stones of being a confident leader and PvPer.

Well it's still early in my PVP days but so far here are my goals

1. Not be squishy. Glass cannon sorc is fine for PVE but not here. I'm having trouble figuring this out.
2. Find a respected guild that doesn't get hated on everywhere we go
3. Learn what actions are frowned upon
4. Get better at siege weapons
5. Find a small group to run with and be successful. Large zergs are exciting but not my cup of tea.

jowww97 wrote: »

Just chill guys. Baconator is a good player like other people from EP and AD. The difference, is that baconator's group is full of skilled pvp players. This group just use prox det and run inside the other zergs spamming AOE's. It is not a big deal. Also, DC are the most populated faction, they have numbers to do everything (of course they bring ppl from other campigns to help them out). That's why everybody lag so hard when baconator is around: he always brings 3-4 full groups with him.

Now that the most organized DC pvp guild left azura, look how easy is to take the blues down. Blues used to be in the top every single day and now they can't hold anything. AD in my opinion has the most organized pvp guilds. They always run together and they wipe everything in front of them.

EP guilds indeed don't work together (I am a EP player). But the problem in azura is not baconator, it is not Ully (I hate that immortal DK), is not fiftyshades or jack or the big zergs. The problem is the lag!

just gotta lol at the 3-4 groups thing

jowww97 wrote: »

Just chill guys. Baconator is a good player like other people from EP and AD. The difference, is that baconator's group is full of skilled pvp players. This group just use prox det and run inside the other zergs spamming AOE's. It is not a big deal. Also, DC are the most populated faction, they have numbers to do everything (of course they bring ppl from other campigns to help them out). That's why everybody lag so hard when baconator is around: he always brings 3-4 full groups with him.

Now that the most organized DC pvp guild left azura, look how easy is to take the blues down. Blues used to be in the top every single day and now they can't hold anything. AD in my opinion has the most organized pvp guilds. They always run together and they wipe everything in front of them.

EP guilds indeed don't work together (I am a EP player). But the problem in azura is not baconator, it is not Ully (I hate that immortal DK), is not fiftyshades or jack or the big zergs. The problem is the lag!

Some much misinformation that its astounding that you actually pvp. Me running 3-4 groups, ad having MULTIPLE good guilds, an organized DC guild leaving Azuras that was actually good, etc.

But seriously where is this other DC guild that's actually good at? And by good I don't mean throw an absurd amount of bodies at a location until it changes colors. I mean a guild that can actually get things done against a sizable or organized opposition without bringing half the server. This game really needs zone TEXT chat so people can actually know things about their own alliance.

arcantonias wrote: »

jowww97 wrote: »

Just chill guys. Baconator is a good player like other people from EP and AD. The difference, is that baconator's group is full of skilled pvp players. This group just use prox det and run inside the other zergs spamming AOE's. It is not a big deal. Also, DC are the most populated faction, they have numbers to do everything (of course they bring ppl from other campigns to help them out). That's why everybody lag so hard when baconator is around: he always brings 3-4 full groups with him.

Now that the most organized DC pvp guild left azura, look how easy is to take the blues down. Blues used to be in the top every single day and now they can't hold anything. AD in my opinion has the most organized pvp guilds. They always run together and they wipe everything in front of them.

EP guilds indeed don't work together (I am a EP player). But the problem in azura is not baconator, it is not Ully (I hate that immortal DK), is not fiftyshades or jack or the big zergs. The problem is the lag!

just gotta lol at the 3-4 groups thing

I just don't get it

I've always wondered what the area chat sounds like on the EP ps4 side lol. I always have the south park "They took our jerrrbs" in my head as their zerg parades through the land haha.

@The-Baconator Ok, so you don't run 3 full groups, you are not a leader in DC. Tell my why the blues are not a big deal anymore. Maybe because their most reliable guild left the campaign. Now there is nobody else to rally all groups in one place anymore. Blues still have a lot of players in AZURA, A LOT! But now they dont zerg so hard anymore. Maybe because they are tired of zerging :'(

So, you are a good leader, your zergs use good tactics, but this is just half of blue zerg power. The other half come from numbers, huge numbers in one place. Dont misunderstand me, you do nothing different from other good zergs.

jowww97 wrote: »

Just chill guys. Baconator is a good player like other people from EP and AD. The difference, is that baconator's group is full of skilled pvp players. This group just use prox det and run inside the other zergs spamming AOE's. It is not a big deal. Also, DC are the most populated faction, they have numbers to do everything (of course they bring ppl from other campigns to help them out). That's why everybody lag so hard when baconator is around: he always brings 3-4 full groups with him.

Now that the most organized DC pvp guild left azura, look how easy is to take the blues down. Blues used to be in the top every single day and now they can't hold anything. AD in my opinion has the most organized pvp guilds. They always run together and they wipe everything in front of them.

EP guilds indeed don't work together (I am a EP player). But the problem in azura is not baconator, it is not Ully (I hate that immortal DK), is not fiftyshades or jack or the big zergs. The problem is the lag!

DC has the smallest pop out of all factions across all platforms and servers. EP has the largest and you can see that across all campaigns where they have 1/2 bars in every campaign minus moon cursed and pop locked Azura and BWB AD is pop locked in Haderus,Azura,Bwb moon cursed and a bar in Thornblade. You spewing nonsense people already know you're full of guar ****

jowww97 wrote: »

@The-Baconator Ok, so you don't run 3 full groups, you are not a leader in DC. Tell my why the blues are not a big deal anymore. Maybe because their most reliable guild left the campaign. Now there is nobody else to rally all groups in one place anymore. Blues still have a lot of players in AZURA, A LOT! But now they dont zerg so hard anymore. Maybe because they are tired of zerging :'(

So, you are a good leader, your zergs use good tactics, but this is just half of blue zerg power. The other half come from numbers, huge numbers in one place. Dont misunderstand me, you do nothing different from other good zergs.

I didn't leave, I dropped so others could get emp. I'm still there and playing fairly regularly. I will say that some normal group leaders who herd pugs have been noticeably absent from Azuras the last few days and I've noticed more lvl 27 field commandos asking for "one more to fill their group" in area so that would most likely explain DC's off hour woes. It just helps to have some consistently when there aren't strong guilds on running +12 man groups.

I would still like to know who the other good blue guild is btw

catalyst10e wrote: »

CavalierPrime wrote: »

DC is the way to be? Yeah if you like using explois to get extra players into the campaign, then use lag switch exploits on top. I think a lot of the lag in Azuras is from DC players doing nefarious activity, and not ZoS' fault.

Here we see a member of EP blaming the lag on DC instead of ZOS servers, suggesting there's some grand scheme at play, while I, a member of the DC, attempt to persuade you to our side with friendly banter, clearly EP is toxic and should be avoided. join DC today!

So true

My observation is the organized AD groups keep DC at bay. When the organized ad groups took a break from Azuras, DC took over. I always worry about AD being more of a threat than EP , EP only a threat when they zerg.

Last campaign DC kicked ass by a sizable margin when there was no real AD threat. That was the same a few campaigns ago when the organized AD groups were in Chilrend and again that's when DC also kicked ass in the Azuras campaign.

EP has never been a threat to DC because the quality of organized groups is not as great as DC or AD

Azuras would not be so bad if it did not get so laggy and as far as zergs go every alliance does it , I have come across some AD and DC that are in groups that kill me but odds are you come across one of these kids solo the y still wreck ya