Francescolg wrote: »

Stop the sensationalism guys! It is clear that, when being surrounded by xx enemies, blazing shield does "grow" so much
and that the damage can get soo high, if than xx enemies do all their attacks at once, INSTEAD of just waiting for the shield to expire or for the templar to be cc'd.. Everybody knows this and blazing shield builds are nothing new, even me, or Abraxus used them excessively over a year go, combined with Immovable, etc. etc., for nasty builds. If Blazing Shield makes "boom", the culprit is not the templar but the guys sticking all together and not waiting for CC..
Otherwise, the bombplar will not hurt anybody.
Please stop acting, as if it's a new phenomena, that doesn't help our target!

In reality, such encounters that enable such a boombastic blazing shield are rare or very rare in pvp, as the zerg fights became less after ic. Also the probability to run into dumb enemies, who do not know how it works, isn't high.
Instead, most PvP encounters are smaller fights 1x vs 1x and enemies do not stick together and every f.... nuub has enough CC and even experience to combat Blazing Shield.

What about "normal" (rounded up) templar builds and their right to have a 'functioning' blazing shield for small/medium scale encounters? (that make up 90% of the fights in a "new pvp era")

F_c_ Jesus Beam! F_c_ Puncturing Sweep!
Give templars a magicka based shield morph! Give templars blinding flashes back!

Indeed that's what in thinked. blinding was the basic aoe cc we had and need

Fizzlewizzle wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

Soris wrote: »

Seriously don't even bother stacking health for blazing shield. It doesn't worth the effort.
Sorcs get 14k hardened ward with 38k magicka and due to the high magicka, their damage is also going over top.

Just watch Mage's latest build video in alliance war subforum. I deleted my templar after watching it lol.

75 points bastion, 39k magicka, my hardened is 11k.

Regardless of your stats, most people have trouble telling the different shields Sorcs use apart.
A few days ago i was with 3 sorcs in a dungeon. One of the walked around with a shield surpassing 30K (without the Barrier Ulti).
I think that we can all agree what shields aren't really the problem. It's the fact that those shields can be gained through the same means as a Sorc gets his damage. It has no drawback (unlike my 8K shield on my Templar).

I think you are simply totally confused about sorcs and shields and are posting garbage.

A sorc has one class shield: Hardened Ward. You cannot compare Hardened Ward in PvE to Hardened Ward in PvP due to the Cyrodiil shield reductions. 11k is a nice number for a sorc in PvP. My ward is 7.9k food-buffed--right on par with yours.

Templars are not sorcs, and sorcs aren't templars which is why their stats/skills are different. Templars are generally designed to be in melee and have a class healing tree. Sorcs are generally designed to be ranged and do not have a class healing tree. You can't start insisting the templar shield should be the same as the sorc's unless you also address the other disparities.

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Yeah recently I've been using Radiant Ward's morph instead but I can't comment on it just yet as I haven't had the chance to properly use it.

Nope, never mind. Radiant Ward also sucks so I've just stuck BoL on both bars.

Its been dead for a while, sadly. Sorc ward has been better than Blazing for many patches. For the same cost as a Templar to Blazing + Rune focus (bear in mind templar will need to fire his combo off more) a Sorc can get the same effect with Ward + Boundless Lightning, and the sorc version is fire and forget. The whole reason Sun Shield had short duration is that it could theoretically return huge built up reflect damage. When they nerfed the rebound damage on the shield, they gutted it. Its just not a good skill.

I wish Blazing Shield was like the Dawnguard spell in Skyrim.

Oh it used to be like that? damn, and I was happy with it just before the IC update. I kinda wish I could go back in time to the patch before IC and take advantage of it

Wow Zos managed to make Blazing shield even more useless. it has now an delay if you animation cancel it..
cmon you cant be serious!?!?!

If they would simply make it scale off your highest stat instead of stupid HP, that would at least make it useful...

Damn Soris.. nice tests either way. I tried a similar build a while back too but with much less CP into Bastion and 45k health, and it would just tickle enemy players... tanky but so crippled like you said.

I wonder if they even acknowledge this? @Wrobel or anyone at @ZOS ?

Blazeing shield is super bad theese days and in order for it to be "okish" you need arround 60k hp, i've had some 10k hits on me in full impen / 501 CP but the sacrifices in order to reach that is laughable. Blazeing needs some well needed buffs.

Just need to remove the battlespirit effect from percentage based shields and heals until we have a better mechanic. Logic101.

(Adapted from @RinaldoGandolphi's sun priest build. Thanks bud! I kept some of your text since it made no sense to switchh it out. I'll replace with my own words after work.)

Please Note: This build DOES NOT rely on nor use Biting Jabs/Puncturing Sweep or any type of melee oriented magic damage. If you are looking for a Biting Jabs build, there are two really good ones over at Tamriel Foundry, one magic based and one stamina based.I know a Jabs build has a little higher DPS, but this is a ranged build NOT a melee build. Please keep that in mind.

Races

Breton - Probably the best overall race for this build due to the Cost Reduction Racial, the Added Spell Resistance Racial which helps you against ranged magic attacks, and the 10% increase to max Magicka.Will level light armor fast.

Altmer - Another very solid race choice.Equal to the Breton. It won't be as sturdy as the Breton against magick attacks, and its spells will cost slightly more, but the Altmer does have increased magick regen and will do slightly more damage with elemental attacks as well as leveling Destro Staff faster. Another very solid choice.

Dunmer - Again, Another Solid choice. Increased Flame resistance will help as its the most common damage type, increased magic and stamina(only 9% magic but also gets 6% stamina), and also gets its spell damage increased when using flame based attacks. Another good option.

Imperial - You will get a slightly larger Sun Shield, and have higher HP, This will allow you to allocate more attributes and enchants to magic. A viable race for this build.

Attribute Distribution

For Bretons, Altmer's, and Dunmers, you should go 20 Health and the rest magic. You want to be sitting at around 26-28k with food buffs. Imperials can put less attributes into health as they have racial passives that give them health. Minimum 30k magicka for healing synergizing.

Armor Types

You will want 7 Light Armor. Once you get the Undaunted Mettle Passive you will want to wear 1 Heavy Armor(Chest) and 1 Meduim Armor(monster helm) and the rest light for the benefits. Prior to that however, you need 7 light for the cost reduction, regen passives it gives.

Weapon Types

You will be primarily utilizing 3 weapon types:

Destruction Staff (Fire Type)
Restoration Staff (To off heal and such)
S+B ( to protect you!)


Destruction Staff is going to be our primary bar for doing damage as we are a ranged caster. S+B will be used on the second bar for its healing and dmg mitigation parts of pvp. .The Resto Staff is for when your going to be healing, off healing, playing a support role in PVP with a group, etc.


Champion Points Allocation

Below I will tell you where I think you should invest points in, not how many, just which ones to invest in that worth with this build style.

The Steed -

0 points.


The Lady In the Lady Tree you want to Invest Points into:

Elemental Defender: 10minimum (certain skills are fire dmg but actually physical. And some are magicka in nature; COA proves this)
Hardy: 10 minimum. Sometimes shield can't get cast. Need some defense.
Light Armor Focus(were wearing 5 pieces): 13 gets you to 10k armor.





The Lord In the Lord Tree, really only two options to invest in.

Bastion: enough to get 20% bonus (I think its 75 points)
Quick Recovery: 10 minimum. 20 ideal.



.

The Tower

Magician: 15 minimum.

The Lover

Arcanist: 80 minimum (max it if you can)
Warlord(can't remember its actual name for stam regen lol): 5
Healthy: 1-5


This will give us more magicka recovery. So invest a lot of points here. Once you feel you have enough magicka recovery then you can invest green points elsewhere, but keep investing here to you have enough magicka recovery that your comfortable. I suggest 5 points for stam regen since we will be roll dodging or breaking out of CC sometimes

The Shadow

Tumbling: 15

Have to roll dodge no matter what. 100% dmg avoidance.

The Apprentice

Elemental Expert: 100
Spell Erosion: 1
Elf Born: 9 minimum
Blessed: 10 minimum
.

The Atronach

Staff Expert: 10 minimum

The idea is you keep your armor buffs up at all times (channel focus, magicka harness, and defensive posture.). Pop Radiant ward when you think dmg will happen (or expect it.)

Skills:

When dealing dmg, crushing shock light attack weave will be your bread and butter. Less buggy than all of the templars skills. Plus mahicka opponents will get a disorient allowing you to setup a heavy attack burst or escape.

Bar:

Destro bar

1. crushing shock
2. Entropy
3. Destruction touch (looks like a light attack animation.) Flex CC slot.
4. Radiant ward
5. Radiant destruction/flex.

S+B bar

1. BOL
2. .channel focus
3. Puryfing ritual
4. Harness magicka/flex slot
5. Defensive posture.


Rotation:

Start: Entropy, heavy attack, crushing shock light attack weave.

Middle: entrophy, meteor, light attack, cc just before meteor hits.

End: entropy, heavy attack, Radiant destruction.

When facing sorc's, you'll probably be on your S+B bar. Just use CC to break their stam then switch to destro bar.