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re-evaluating character, maybe. should switch?

pcar944
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love playing caster characters, I grinded vr11 sorcerer on Xbox one, so when I got my new PC and bought ESO, obvious choice was to make a sorcerer again

surely mouse and keyboard will make it easier to play, and in a way they have, however now I'm debating whether a Sorcerer is the right character for me

for one, so squishy, for a caster characters that are usually quiet a bit tanky - in WoW for example, the sorcerer in ESO seems like he's made of very thin glass

then there's my issue with skills, I can't seem t find a rotation that I enjoy. I try to get a couple skills on the bar that let me kinda control the mob while not leave me hanging and still do damage, but by the time I'm done throwing mines /curse/encase and trying taking out the healer, I have no resources left

swap the bars ... basically now try to keep in mind 10 different skills and what they do for something you should be able to do with 5?

then the damage issue, can't figure out how in some situations I plow though mobs and they can't stop me. later in the day I'll be coming though the same spot and die 2-3 times

so I decided I'll level up some healing skills and see if they will help me - and these are nice and let me be a bit more tanky, but I must have Resto staff in order t use them ... and there's only room for 1-2 skills 1 f which must be a CC and other damage which ends up being Crystal Frag because it's cheap, knocks down, and can be cast for free sometimes

I also can't understand how it takes me a bit of time to kill something, while a lower level nightblade or DK come running by, casually stare at what I'm fighting, and that thing drops dead after 1 swing - example are the Werewolf world boss in first area Daggerfall

there doesn't seem to be any other ranged classes then a nightblade, so tomorrow I'm going to try it out and see and make a Nightblade, but I hope maybe someone can shine some light on what I'm doing wrong?

maybe share some insight on what you guys use for openers?
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  • NBrookus
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    Coming up on a boss or tough mob, I use Bound Aegis (has to be on both bars).

    For single boss:
    On my back bar with DW, I pop Hardened Ward, Harness Magicka, Critical Surge then Velocious Curse. Swap to my destro bar and medium weave (when I do it successfully!) with Crushing Shock, use Crystal Frags when it procs, and Mages Wrath when in execute range. I swap bars and refresh my buffs when needed.

    For a mob:
    Same, but I aggro a bunch and stand in the middle and medium weave with Elemental Ring while my shields eat the damage. If they are using wrecking blow in the mob, I block cast Elemental Ring.

    For one or two targets, I open with a hard casted Crystal Frags.

    I am by no means a great player, but I soloed with ease all the public dungeons, world bosses and a bunch of dolmens in Cadwell's Gold today on my V11. Sorcs are plenty powerful but you have to be careful about what you let get close to you and keep your shields up.

    At your level since you haven't opened up a lot of those skills, stay mobile and stay ranged. When my sorc was a baby, using pets helped a lot. The clanfear will tank for you and it helps you stay ranged. The storm atronach also pulls aggro. I am not a fan of Overload, but it opens up a 3rd skillbar, and many sorcs love their Overload, so try that, too.

    If you are running out of resources, you need to assess the cost of the skills you are using, and maybe use drink instead of food. Some crafted gear that improves magicka regen will also be helpful.
  • Lucky28
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    It can be kinda hard playing a sorc early in the game if you're all light. when you unlock hardened ward you will no longer be as squishy, so load one of your bars with Daedric summoning abilities and grind the Daedric summing skill line to 42. you wanna load your bars with Daedric summing skills and Storm calling skills, those are gonna be your most used class skills so you wanna level them up quick as possible.

    Aside from that. you're gonna want "power surge" in PvE i don't need a restoration staff because Surge and C-frags with blood magic passive is a good enough heal for pretty much all PvE content (even soloing world bosses in wrothgar) you still want to level the restoration staff though, cause if you decide to PvP you're gonna need it.
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  • pcar944
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    o I am working on the restoration staff and destruction staff, and out in the world I can do OK, I just can't understand how I'm actually having to fight for my life, while other classes just run through everything

    my destruction bar has skills from dark magic, summoning, and storm calling, s I can get to the Mines, Aegis, and Surge - I'm not there yet though

    my restoration bar now has healing springs, mutagen, and I finally got to Hardened Ward, I als nlocked the Light Armor bug and it's on this bar as well leveling

    I'm still low level with my sorcerer, must find it difficult going though content with her now, t seems like it was much easier on the console - and it's not keyboard and mouse vs controller

    I was using boundless storm as a mini buff because it acts like a mini-Ward is this a bad idea?

    does Heavy Armor help at all? or ar the benefits for light armor that much better?

    thank you guys

    btw, I tried public dungeon by myself, Spindleclutch., didn't last too long at all
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  • NBrookus
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    pcar944 wrote: »
    btw, I tried public dungeon by myself, Spindleclutch., didn't last too long at all

    That's not a public dungeon, it's a group dungeon designed for 4 person groups. So definitely don't feel bad about that!
  • Brrrofski
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    pcar944 wrote: »
    o I am working on the restoration staff and destruction staff, and out in the world I can do OK, I just can't understand how I'm actually having to fight for my life, while other classes just run through everything

    my destruction bar has skills from dark magic, summoning, and storm calling, s I can get to the Mines, Aegis, and Surge - I'm not there yet though

    my restoration bar now has healing springs, mutagen, and I finally got to Hardened Ward, I als nlocked the Light Armor bug and it's on this bar as well leveling

    I'm still low level with my sorcerer, must find it difficult going though content with her now, t seems like it was much easier on the console - and it's not keyboard and mouse vs controller

    I was using boundless storm as a mini buff because it acts like a mini-Ward is this a bad idea?

    does Heavy Armor help at all? or ar the benefits for light armor that much better?

    thank you guys

    The other classes are probably people rolling new toons who have a lot of CP and can make good gear. On my 7th toon I had 350+ CP and blue, set gear from like level 10. You can two shot everything.

    Boundless storm isn't a ward or shield. It increase physical and spell resistance. This doesn't apply to your hardened ward which should always be up. Unless you're using uit for speed, there's not a huge point to it. My advice, put hardened ward on your front bar. Sometimes weapon swap doesn't work so having tour shield on your main bar helps a lot.

    You don't need mutagen. Swap it for surge (when you unlock it). Whenever you crit, it heals you for 40% of the damage. You morph it to power surge then, which increases your spell damage (so damage in general for you) by 20%.

    For a guaranteed heal, you have two options. Both as in the resto tree. Blessing of Restoration for a guaranteed burst heal. One morph increases your damage further by 8% (which stack with Power surge) and one heals you for more.

    Option two is steadfast which you morph into healing ward. This gives you a small heal and a shield. Based on how much damage the shield takes, it gives you (or not) an additional heal when or ends (it's about 6 seconds). So it'll give you say, a 1k heal and a 5k shield. If you take no damage to that shield, it'll give you an extra 5k when it ends. If it takes 1.5k damage, it'll give you 3.5k heal when it ends. If you take 5k damage before 6 seconds is up, you'll get no extra heal.

    I'd go with blessing of Restoration if I were you.

    To make use of all light armour passives you need 5 light. So go at least 5 light. Adding in 1 or 2 heavy would give you a better defence though. So try it out. Go chest and/or legs if you do, they give the most armour.
    Edited by Brrrofski on January 24, 2016 12:33AM
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    I'm assuming you don't already have one, but an mmo mouse can seriously improve your game on pc. It avoids having to stretch your left hand up to the numbers while still trying to hit wsad etc.

    My single target damage rotation is just power surge, velocious curse, mages wrath, crystal frags and streak with fire staff heavy attacks in between. Basically hold down lmb and every second hit one of your skills. I open with curse and keep it refreshed whenever it pops every 4.5 seconds, and during those 4.5 seconds hit mages wrath or streak until frags procs. Replace mages wrath with crushing shock for a more effective rotation. Take a few secs every 15 seconds or so to buff/heal/ward up.

    As someone else said; when you unlock hardened ward you turn into a hardened-glass cannon and things get easier. Until then healing ward is a good substitute. Streak is another game changer unlocked at lvl 42 storm calling, allowing you to kite and reposition very effectively.
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  • pcar944
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    hi, sorry I'm not ignoring this post

    I have since decided to try a Nightblade, and I'm currently 46 Stamina Nightblade in Could Harbour

    you are probably right and those guys probably have a lot of CP and crafted gear that I do not

    also I do have a MMO mouse, Razer one, with 12 buttons on a side (this helps out a lot) but I find myself pushing wrong button every now and then especially when I panick

    you were correct its a GROUP not a PUBLIC dungeon, I have since learned the difference

    thanks guys
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  • Acsvf
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    pcar944 wrote: »
    you were correct its a GROUP not a PUBLIC dungeon, I have since learned the difference
    Yeah, there's kinda a huge difference. Soloing a public dungeon is something that almost everyone should be able to do, soloing a group dungeon, not so much.
    Edited by Acsvf on February 2, 2016 10:02AM
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  • pcar944
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    Acsvf wrote: »
    pcar944 wrote: »
    you were correct its a GROUP not a PUBLIC dungeon, I have since learned the difference
    Yeah, there's kinda a huge difference. Soloing a public dungeon is something that almost everyone should be able to do, soloing a group dungeon, not so much.

    Ive already completed Spindleclutch twice and finished Valenfel scared to vr16 once (no good gear spend some time dead LOL)

    cant wait to get better at the game (class)
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