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Breton Passives: Underwhelming if Sorc?

Kammakazi
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Talking PvE here —

I mean 3% Reduced cost... that's 6 CP (2.9%)...

The Spell Resistance is cool but the Reduced Cost is what's so underwhelming compared to a High Elf's Elemental Talent and Spellcharge.

It kinda bugs me that I'll never be able to be on par with High Elf Sorcs and their Overload damage due to Elemental Talent.

  • catalyst10e
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    Yeah it could stand to be a bit better, theres certainly other races who need a rework more tho (cough-argonian-cough) But as far as Elder Scrolls go, Breton mages were never hard hitters, they were more known to be defensive mages. So to me at least it makes sense.
    "Why settle for just stabbing your foes when you can roast them alive in a gout of arcane fire?"
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  • Dr_Ganknstein
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    Wow a Breton crying about passives... the guys are never going to believe this
  • HebrewHatchet
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    To be fair, because of diminishing returns on CP passives, if you look at a Breton with 30 CP in Magician, it will take a High Elf 52 CP to have the same reduced cost. If you consider a Breton with 50 CP in Magician, it will take a High Elf 77 CP to have equivalent cost reduction. So really, for most of the time that you play end game, it will be worth between 20 and 30 CP. Finally, if you're both maxed out at 100 CP in Magician, there's no making up for it.
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  • JayhawK
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Talking PvE here —

    I mean 3% Reduced cost... that's 6 CP (2.9%)...

    The Spell Resistance is cool but the Reduced Cost is what's so underwhelming compared to a High Elf's Elemental Talent and Spellcharge.

    It kinda bugs me that I'll never be able to be on par with High Elf Sorcs and their Overload damage due to Elemental Talent.

    Made my Sorc Breton as well. High elf passives are definitely a bit better but i went breton just for the human look. Honestly not a big deal. Breton probably 2nd best race for mag sorc
  • Kammakazi
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    Icky wrote: »
    Wow a Breton crying about passives... the guys are never going to believe this

    I don't get it.
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    Tbh I dont find the reduced cost makes much of a difference, still struggling for mana, tho I've not maxed magician yet, about 78 in it I think, the spell resist doesnt do much either, then again I suppose these are decent passives if your running tank as sorc.
  • Brrrofski
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    Spell passive or irrelevant on a sorc. You'll have hardened ward up. It does flat damage, so resistances make no difference.

    Instead of that, sorcs have elemental damage. You have a whole lightning tree, destro staff is best staff and ice comet is a good burst ultimate for pvp.

    High elf all day
  • Tankqull
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Talking PvE here —

    I mean 3% Reduced cost... that's 6 CP (2.9%)...

    The Spell Resistance is cool but the Reduced Cost is what's so underwhelming compared to a High Elf's Elemental Talent and Spellcharge.

    It kinda bugs me that I'll never be able to be on par with High Elf Sorcs and their Overload damage due to Elemental Talent.

    6CP in elemental expert = 2,9% increased elemental dmg = Highelf racial so what was your argument again?
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    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Kammakazi
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Talking PvE here —

    I mean 3% Reduced cost... that's 6 CP (2.9%)...

    The Spell Resistance is cool but the Reduced Cost is what's so underwhelming compared to a High Elf's Elemental Talent and Spellcharge.

    It kinda bugs me that I'll never be able to be on par with High Elf Sorcs and their Overload damage due to Elemental Talent.

    6CP in elemental expert = 2,9% increased elemental dmg = Highelf racial so what was your argument again?

    I mean 7CP is (3.9%) but still, as a Sorc, we have 100 in Elemental Expert anyways which is 25% but High Elfs can get it to 29% (Elemental Talent).
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Talking PvE here —

    I mean 3% Reduced cost... that's 6 CP (2.9%)...

    The Spell Resistance is cool but the Reduced Cost is what's so underwhelming compared to a High Elf's Elemental Talent and Spellcharge.

    It kinda bugs me that I'll never be able to be on par with High Elf Sorcs and their Overload damage due to Elemental Talent.

    6CP in elemental expert = 2,9% increased elemental dmg = Highelf racial so what was your argument again?

    I mean 7CP is (3.9%) but still, as a Sorc, we have 100 in Elemental Expert anyways which is 25% but High Elfs can get it to 29% (Elemental Talent).

    and? we have 100points into reduced cost aswell so the 3% of bretons cheaper spells remains as advantagous as 3% more elemental dmg is ... (actually it is more effective as 3% on not capped CP-star is a higher efficeny in total than 3% on top of a caped star...)
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


  • Destruent
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    Tankqull wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Tankqull wrote: »
    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Talking PvE here —

    I mean 3% Reduced cost... that's 6 CP (2.9%)...

    The Spell Resistance is cool but the Reduced Cost is what's so underwhelming compared to a High Elf's Elemental Talent and Spellcharge.

    It kinda bugs me that I'll never be able to be on par with High Elf Sorcs and their Overload damage due to Elemental Talent.

    6CP in elemental expert = 2,9% increased elemental dmg = Highelf racial so what was your argument again?

    I mean 7CP is (3.9%) but still, as a Sorc, we have 100 in Elemental Expert anyways which is 25% but High Elfs can get it to 29% (Elemental Talent).

    and? we have 100points into reduced cost aswell so the 3% of bretons cheaper spells remains as advantagous as 3% more elemental dmg is ... (actually it is more effective as 3% on not capped CP-star is a higher efficeny in total than 3% on top of a caped star...)

    1. You don't need ressources when using Overload-->reduce Cost is useless
    2. You don't need reduce Cost in pve (ele-drain)-->reduce cost is useless
    3. For pvp it#s a bit different bc you also want to putt points into thaumaturge, but even then...damage>>>>>>>>costreduction
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  • Soris
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    Breton spell resist passive is redundant for magicka sorc due to the shields. Altmer's elemental dmg passive benefits many magicka sorc builds. The only thing may breton has its use, probably when using streak more than once. Otherwise sorc spells dont cost too much. Altmer passives stack so well with the cp system and sorc passives.
    Edited by Soris on January 23, 2016 2:05PM
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