My critical resistance is 500. Great. What does that mean?

GoodFella146 · January 2016

This couldn't be explained any less. Does it reduce some of the damage from a critical hit? Does it negate some percentage of the chance? WHAT DOES IT DO? Some random number doesn't mean anything to me.

altemriel · January 2016

I wonder what is the math behind it too. it definitelly reduces the damage from critical hits you take, but how much, no idea.....wanna know too!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @Wrobel

RinaldoGandolphi · January 2016

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage. An enemies’ critical modifier can be reduced by equipping gear with the Impenetrable trait or by spending points in the Resilient champion point sign. Every percent in Resilient decreases the enemies’ critical modifier by the same amount and every 250 points of critical resistance reduces an enemies’ critical modifier by 3.5%

Example

If you are PvP’ing against an enemy with a critical modifier of 0.5 and you have 500 critical resistance (2 legendary equipment) and 48 points (15%) in Resilient, then

Enemy Critical Modifier = 0.5 - 0.15 - 0.07 - = 0.28

Source - Lots of testing

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Bookmark that page, every math related question to everything in this game and how it works is there with the math worked out. Its author works on it and with others to keep it updated.

Cheers!

TheValkyn · January 2016

I believe that Xsorus proved that in PvP impen on all pieces along with crit resistance in the Champion System was able to reduce crit damage down to near it's non-crit equivalent.

Personofsecrets · January 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage.

You have some splannin to do @RinaldoGandolphi

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

Long story if you want to fully mitigate crit res you need like 3500 or 3600 crit res and a full set of gold armor with a gold shield your crit res gets up to 2000.

GoodFella146 · January 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage. An enemies’ critical modifier can be reduced by equipping gear with the Impenetrable trait or by spending points in the Resilient champion point sign. Every percent in Resilient decreases the enemies’ critical modifier by the same amount and every 250 points of critical resistance reduces an enemies’ critical modifier by 3.5%

Example

If you are PvP’ing against an enemy with a critical modifier of 0.5 and you have 500 critical resistance (2 legendary equipment) and 48 points (15%) in Resilient, then

Enemy Critical Modifier = 0.5 - 0.15 - 0.07 - = 0.28

Source - Lots of testing

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Bookmark that page, every math related question to everything in this game and how it works is there with the math worked out. Its author works on it and with others to keep it updated.

Cheers!

Thanks!!

jgrinsteadb14_ESO · January 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage.

I guess a PVE mob did not crit me for 14k earlier today. I must have been dreaming.

There are quite a few ambiguous stats and modifiers in the CP trees.

What is magic damage? Is dark magic , magic damage or dark magic damage or both? Is a lightning staff lightning damage and/or magic damage or just weapon damage? How are enchants and potions categorized for damage?

What kind of resistances apply to PVE?

I have been playing MMO's since Everquest and this is one of the most confusing stat systems I have ever seen.

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage. An enemies’ critical modifier can be reduced by equipping gear with the Impenetrable trait or by spending points in the Resilient champion point sign. Every percent in Resilient decreases the enemies’ critical modifier by the same amount and every 250 points of critical resistance reduces an enemies’ critical modifier by 3.5%

Example

If you are PvP’ing against an enemy with a critical modifier of 0.5 and you have 500 critical resistance (2 legendary equipment) and 48 points (15%) in Resilient, then

Enemy Critical Modifier = 0.5 - 0.15 - 0.07 - = 0.28

Source - Lots of testing

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/

Bookmark that page, every math related question to everything in this game and how it works is there with the math worked out. Its author works on it and with others to keep it updated.

Cheers!

So every 3.5% in resistance in the CP = 1 pieces of gold level armor with impen 250. So that means you need full gold armor set with impen and gold shield with impen = 2000 and and like around 21% in resistance to have full mitigation against crit damage... Well I guess some one can do that just to troll with crit builds in pvp.

MissBizz · January 2016

Personofsecrets wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage.

You have some splannin to do @RinaldoGandolphi

Yeah I recall being told monsters don't crit either but then I heard (recently) that they do. Maybe it changed at some point?

Personofsecrets · January 2016

MissBizz wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage.

You have some splannin to do @RinaldoGandolphi

Yeah I recall being told monsters don't crit either but then I heard (recently) that they do. Maybe it changed at some point?

I'm not sure. The answer from ZOS that people used to go off of was, I think, from a random customer service agent.

I was very surprised to see this crit as I always believed that NPC enemies could not crit.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @Wrobel , any insight here?

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 · January 2016

I believe they made it so that NPC enemies could crit a few patches ago, when they gave them all more abilities.

Personofsecrets · January 2016

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »

I believe they made it so that NPC enemies could crit a few patches ago, when they gave them all more abilities.

I think we would remember the patch note though.

Asayre · January 2016

DK mobs can crit because they are capable of using Inferno. I don't know of other mobs that can crit.

Moonshadow66 · January 2016

GoodFella146 wrote: »

This couldn't be explained any less. Does it reduce some of the damage from a critical hit? Does it negate some percentage of the chance? WHAT DOES IT DO? Some random number doesn't mean anything to me.

I don't know, I'm wondering about the same thing since forever. The same goes for the crit rating as well, the numbers don't say anything at all. These values in PERCENTAGE would be helpful.

Vezuls · January 2016

From what I've been told, all mobs have a base crit chance of 10%.

mistermutiny89 · January 2016

Yeah I'm fairly certain PVE mobs now do crit. Best way to check on console is to repair armour and run around some archers. You'll see on your death recap some light attacks may be around 3,500 damage whilst other light attacks may be 5k. Must be a light attack crit yas? YASSS!

I'm still a little baffled by physical resistance and thought that each thousand was equivalent to 10 percent total damage reduction. I'm pretty sure I am wrong but I will definitely check the link provided above. Thank you.

Korah_Eaglecry · January 2016

They do crit. And often.

dlepi24 · January 2016

Wow...How did none of us know that this got changed lol.

RinaldoGandolphi · January 2016

If PVE mobs can crit now, then that is a ninja change that no one knows about it.

I personally have never been crit by a PVe mob, but most of my characters use damage sheilds that are immune to crit. The only time i ever get hit for a ton of damage is if something is enraged and hits me like those Flesh Atro in Vet IPC is a good example of that.

So if PVE mobs do indeed crit now, this was an undocumented change as i have not seen anything mentioned about it in the patch notes...if they did change this....great...just great...lol!

Asayre · January 2016

I watched my recording of today's vet pledge as a tank and did not observe a crit from any mob. I re-watched my recording of the first three rounds of veteran maelstrom arena and also did not observe a crit from any mob.

@mistermutiny89 @jgrinsteadb14_ESO @Korah_Eaglecry

Could you please tell me which mobs you were testing on? I would like to verify this and I'll happily let mobs turn me into a pincushion for a while.

Khaos_Bane · January 2016

Personofsecrets wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Critical resistance is not needed in PvE since monsters do not do critical damage.

You have some splannin to do @RinaldoGandolphi

Yeah, @RinaldoGandolphi needs to look at his combat logs from time to time in PvE.

Vangy · January 2016

GoodFella146 wrote: »

This couldn't be explained any less. Does it reduce some of the damage from a critical hit? Does it negate some percentage of the chance? WHAT DOES IT DO? Some random number doesn't mean anything to me.

You are now 1% less likely to die from a gank by nb.

Khaos_Bane · January 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

If PVE mobs can crit now, then that is a ninja change that no one knows about it.

I don't actually remember a time when they didn't crit.