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One shots
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on January 19, 2016 9:41PMPS4 NA DC3 -
jim_mau✭✭✭keep in mind that with those Hunter skills on your bar, Vamps, WW and daedra have a fricking aura glow thing... which is like a huge KILL ME sign on your back, not even tanking into account that the skill has problems..
tl dr; vamps shine like twilight vamps lmao, ofc your´re gonna get killed.
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ScooberSteve✭✭✭✭Im a vamp it happens to me I know its my fault for being a vamp. On the plus side there are many advantages.0 -
Alferino✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD0 -
Toc de Malsvi✭✭✭✭✭
✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.Legendary Archer of ValenwoodBosmer Dragon Knight Archer. XBox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Nightblade Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Sorcerer Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Bosmer Warden Archer. Xbox One. (Flawless Conqueror Bow/Bow)Templar's are evil..3 -
Alferino✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Well, i guess your right, this skill isnt broken at all, its just a l2p issue on my end, must be my build hey, zos please dont nurf this skill because it doesnt need it.......
(one was taken 5 minutes ago, the other last night)
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Imdrefan✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Translation: Abusing broken mechanics ie. Multiple procs off camo hunter is a cheese build.Drefan - VR14 AD Templar
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Alferino✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Translation: Abusing broken mechanics ie. Multiple procs off camo hunter is a cheese build.
THANKYOU
im always happy to admit when i die, but as my screenshots show, this skill clearly needs alot of work, vamps also need some buffs1 -
Imdrefan✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Translation: Abusing broken mechanics ie. Multiple procs off camo hunter is a cheese build.
THANKYOU
im always happy to admit when i die, but as my screenshots show, this skill clearly needs alot of work, vamps also need some buffs
This guy clearly uses it himself and thinks he's come up with a really "strong build" and it's his skill that's doing the killing and not broken mechanics.
I run vampire with 30,000 hp and can be dropped in less than a GCD. ZOS has stated that multiple procs from stealth are not intended.Drefan - VR14 AD Templar
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✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Basically all you've been saying this entire thread is: "I run a 1 shot build because I have no skill and don't like challenges, and I don't want anybody to be able to defend themselves against my super pro 1 shot build, just so I can tell them to L2P."
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Alferino✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Basically all you've been saying this entire thread is: "I run a 1 shot build because I have no skill and don't like challenges, and I don't want anybody to be able to defend themselves against my super pro 1 shot build, just so I can tell them to L2P."
xD i mean sure, i can admit, im not a perfect player, i have soo much to learn, i still need to "l2p" i think we all need to learn to play because noone has mastered the art of pvp, but there is NOTHING in my power that i can do to learn how to not be 1shot by a exploited and broken ability3 -
Angus✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Basically all you've been saying this entire thread is: "I run a 1 shot build because I have no skill and don't like challenges, and I don't want anybody to be able to defend themselves against my super pro 1 shot build, just so I can tell them to L2P."
If/when they fix camo hunter so he's got a two shot instead of one shot build, you sure you won't be right back here complaining?Angus of Noquar franchise.
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Alferino✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Basically all you've been saying this entire thread is: "I run a 1 shot build because I have no skill and don't like challenges, and I don't want anybody to be able to defend themselves against my super pro 1 shot build, just so I can tell them to L2P."
If/when they fix camo hunter so he's got a two shot instead of one shot build, you sure you won't be right back here complaining?
Hey man atleast i will have abit of time to react, then ill actually be able to teach myself something new and "l2p"0 -
Imdrefan✭✭✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Basically all you've been saying this entire thread is: "I run a 1 shot build because I have no skill and don't like challenges, and I don't want anybody to be able to defend themselves against my super pro 1 shot build, just so I can tell them to L2P."
If/when they fix camo hunter so he's got a two shot instead of one shot build, you sure you won't be right back here complaining?
I can react to a two shot. And if he still beats me, then game on.Drefan - VR14 AD Templar
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✭Toc de Malsvi wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »just wanted to mention... Radiant Mage Light counters this. 50% reduced damage from all stealth attacks andno stun so you can react.
I play a vampire, i'd use RML.
Problem is im a stamplar and i dont have enough room on my bars for RML
make room or be ganked, simple as that. stop complaining when you have the option to prevent these one shots in front of you.
if you cant fit rml , never leave sneak.
might i add you were ganked by 2 people who were both using camo, even with rml you prob would of died.
Also, sorry to say, but even if i had radiant, they where to far away to be detected... EXACTLY you just proved my point, in under half a seccond, nomatter what, one skill made me drop dead, if it wasnt for camo hunter, probs wouldnt of died at all, moral of the story, buff vamps, nerf camo? thankyou
you would not of died instantly, if two people get the drop on you even with rml you wont survive the pressure they put on you.
you will survive the 1 shot (with RML) , you will be able to cc them back and heal a little.. but you most likely cannot survive a 2v1 on your own even without vampirism while ganked like that.
you should not of been detected at all if you were in stealth... you should at all times as a vampire.
you just dont get it, your like a werewolf running into a zerg waiting to be dawnbreakered. if you play a vampire and just walk around in the open your asking for it.
vampires do not engage for long or you will be prey to the fighters guild. you engage and go back into stealth. rml ensure's you are never detected while running around in stealth. once you engage you are also protected from potentail ganks. you have 2 less skills yes but you dont need many to buff and gank. vampires are gankers imo.
i run rml on both bars on my stamina nightblade and never die to camo hunter. this is senseless qq. getting killed by two gankers using camo hunter complaining on the forums solves nothing, your at fault for showing off your pale face and asking for an end to your eternal life.
in this end your death was preventable. camo hunter is fine, vamperism is in need of adjustments but not a buff. i hate see'ing people on the forum's say this but learn to play. success is a mind set. learn from your mistakes. you cannot face tank as a vampire and expect to not die like this.
I don't want to seem like a jerk. Below I'll go more into depth about this subject.
Reality is, camouflage hunter suck's. It's been broken for so long, before you could one shot vampire's with only a heavy attack from stealth with duel wield. It has been fixed as of last patch but there have been claim's it is still broken.
Radiant Mage Light is one huge way to counter this but there are other's as well.
Impenetrable. If you have 7 Impen trait's on your gear (which I strongly recommend for pvp)... you can prevent 21% critical damage. Stealth attack's have guaranteed critical proc's which will help lighten the load.
CP passive's. There are two tree's in the warrior section that can easily help you mitigate camouflage hunter damage. "Hardy" can reduce the magic damage of camo hunter up to 25%. You can also get up to 25% more critical resistance with the CP perk "Resistance".
To top it off, you can reduce stealth damage by 50% with Radiant Mage Light. I swear it's impossible to kill me from stealth with all of these thing's combined.
If you implement these three tip's above you will have a much easier time dealing with this ability and all gank's in general.
Vampire's have to stay in stealth and engage for very short amount's of time's. It's something that you need to take into account when playing a vampire. It's going to be a lot harder for you to pull of being a vampire as a stamina Templar. You already have no escape's... if only mist form wasn't broken you may be able to pull it off with more ease.
If you want to go into even more depth, feel free to pm me. There are so many people just like you who get angry at the fighter's guild ability's. I'm right there with you, however I have found way's to pretty much ignore it completely with smart build choice's and play-style change's.
Hopefully these tip's help.
Just a little added note. That one player who hit you for 11k is actually hitting you with more then one attack. The death re-cap's have been confirmed bugged. He most likely hit you will a similar combo to the first guy. The death re-cap's some times just add all together and misinform you.
I've had player's send me similar death re-cap's of only my soul harvest hitting 20k+ but I really hit them with a heavy attack first. Both attack's just ended up totaling together.
Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
Translation: Anything that kills me is a "cheese" build.
This irrational refusal to acknowledge tactics or buffs/debuffs and how they scale and stack is why so many revert to "L2P". You do not have to be in stealth all the time but you could at least try to be in stealth when it is prudent. But no you want ZOS to make you invincible all hail god of pvp without you having to change your precious setup.
Basically all you've been saying this entire thread is: "I run a 1 shot build because I have no skill and don't like challenges, and I don't want anybody to be able to defend themselves against my super pro 1 shot build, just so I can tell them to L2P."
If/when they fix camo hunter so he's got a two shot instead of one shot build, you sure you won't be right back here complaining?
It doesn't even matter, I became vamp again because I was STILL GETTING ONE SHOT with 30k hp, 2k impen and 25% into resistance passive. This game hasn't the slightest bit of balance. And ignorant people like you that think killing other players in one hit, vampire or not, is a good idea. This game will never be balanced or fair as long as people have that mindset.
And the off chance that I survive that first hit is the reason that I put my heal on my main bar...Edited by Akinos on January 20, 2016 4:27PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
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I mean, common, correct me if im wrong.. but this is just so annoying, when 2 guys run around in a group and do this god dam combo to 1shot someone, maybe its because im vamp, maybe its the skill, nurf it or buff vamp so we dont get killed in less than half a seccond without ANY counter at all to it
i can take 2 crystal frags and stay alive sometimes, but this combo right here NEVER fails to kill me straight away
fix, or, buff, vamps, please
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mike.eso✭✭✭✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.2 -
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✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.
lol...you really giving props to players that run the cheesy 1 shot builds? Defending it is one thing but praising people for being Mitch Bade is just.....smh. That's like congratulating the Patriots for playing with deflated footballs. What has this world come to?Edited by Akinos on January 20, 2016 4:39PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp2 -
Alferino✭✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.
Tell me how agility is broken? thats the only thing i use that you seem to think is broken xD0 -
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✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.
Tell me how agility is broken? thats the only thing i use that you seem to think is broken xD
Yeah I'm wondering that too rofl. Endurance is broken? That damn extra HP is so overpowered!PC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
mike.eso✭✭✭✭haha yeah i'll definitely give em props for killing me in under 1s...I like cheese, cheese is good, extra cheese please
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mike.eso✭✭✭✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.
Tell me how agility is broken? thats the only thing i use that you seem to think is broken xD
Its the combo of agility and endurance that gets you the bonuses of both sets....notice how I grouped them together?
Also camo hunter is not actually what is bugged, it has much more to do with the mechanics of how stealth attacks work.0 -
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Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
You realize i play a vampire right.....
Vampire's are the one class that your suppose to run in stealth all the time. If you don't, you should be using Radiant Mage Light.... no question about it to prevent these camouflage hunter death's.
I'm a nightblade so i use cheese build's? I'm the one player in this game who use's the sentry set and still use's the old 5 piece shadow-walker. I'm far from one of those cheese build's....
Ganking is a part of the game. This game isn't built around 1v1's and 1vX's. There's are ton's of way's to play this game... a role playing game. I'm the villain in this game who will cut you down when your weak. Nightblade's are the scum of pvp. I don't build to do anything else but that because i role play as this kind of player.
I'm defending this kind of play style? (one shot's) I literally just wrote a long comment on how to prevent this from happening and you refuse to acknowledge the information and complain more about being one shot....
I tried to help you. This is a part of the game. Camouflage Hunter is something vampire's need to deal with. There are plenty of people who build for this kind of play-style. It's your choice if you wanna use the counter's to these people... but i don't wanna hear complaining on the forum's because you died while not using the counter's to prevent this.
Getting hit by 2 people with camouflage hunter (after it's been fixed) is the only way to one shot a player this fast. Completely avoidable with one counter ability (RML).
Just cure your Vampirism, it seem's you don't got what it take's to be a Vampire. You make Vampire's look weak with all your crying.
The one thing i will accept as QQ from you is about Camouflage Hunter Proc'ing multiple time's. It has been confirmed to be fixed but rumor's on the forum's say it still is Proc'ing multiple time's. However in your situation you were hit by two separate player's and they only single proc'd the ability which is working as intended. RML is your sole counter end of story for these kind of situation's. There are player's who could use wrecking blow or snipe or any other combo for that matter and obtain the same result's. Your just another player who complain's they died but refuses to change their build to prevent this...smh GG.
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Uhh, i dont know how you like to play, by myself and im quite sure MANY others dont wanna run around in stealth all the time, by you saying your a nightblade you clearly use these types of cheese builds to gank hence why your defending them xD
You realize i play a vampire right.....
Vampire's are the one class that your suppose to run in stealth all the time. If you don't, you should be using Radiant Mage Light.... no question about it to prevent these camouflage hunter death's.
I'm a nightblade so i use cheese build's? I'm the one player in this game who use's the sentry set and still use's the old 5 piece shadow-walker. I'm far from one of those cheese build's....
Ganking is a part of the game. This game isn't built around 1v1's and 1vX's. There's are ton's of way's to play this game... a role playing game. I'm the villain in this game who will cut you down when your weak. Nightblade's are the scum of pvp. I don't build to do anything else but that because i role play as this kind of player.
I'm defending this kind of play style? (one shot's) I literally just wrote a long comment on how to prevent this from happening and you refuse to acknowledge the information and complain more about being one shot....
I tried to help you. This is a part of the game. Camouflage Hunter is something vampire's need to deal with. There are plenty of people who build for this kind of play-style. It's your choice if you wanna use the counter's to these people... but i don't wanna hear complaining on the forum's because you died while not using the counter's to prevent this.
Getting hit by 2 people with camouflage hunter (after it's been fixed) is the only way to one shot a player this fast. Completely avoidable with one counter ability (RML).
Just cure your Vampirism, it seem's you don't got what it take's to be a Vampire. You make Vampire's look weak with all your crying.
Are you a stam build? i really hope your not a stam build
no, im not going to use RML on a stam build, i respect your trying to help, you should respect my point of the debate too... vamps are not meant to run around in stealth 24/7 at all... that would be pointless, and as someone commented aswell, they ran 30k hp and still got wrecked like this...
i mean, i now have 24k health... if i where to run ALOT of health and heavy armor to be more tanky, id clearly miss out on alot of stats and wouldnt be as effective at all... im not refusing to change my build also as i change up builds almost every week, i theory craft, and im yet to find a counter that stops this cheesy stuff from happening, running RML would mean id have to lose out on much needed skills, what do you suggest i drop? repentance? that would be silly, purifying ritual? there goes my health to fire dots and dawnbreaker dots, my cc? dam.., how about rally? or vigor? there goes my heals and my weapon damage buff... do you see how gimped it would make me using RML?
"dont got what it takes" lolol sorry im not pro, teach me how to play?
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Alferino✭✭oh, your not the one person that runs sentry, i play with someone who uses it.. ive used it...0
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Alferino✭✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.
Tell me how agility is broken? thats the only thing i use that you seem to think is broken xD
Its the combo of agility and endurance that gets you the bonuses of both sets....notice how I grouped them together?
Also camo hunter is not actually what is bugged, it has much more to do with the mechanics of how stealth attacks work.
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imredneckson✭✭✭✭✭Lol really? How often or how many times in a given night are people actually getting killed by a "one shot" or a quick combo of skills?
Just cause y'all don't agree with a different play style and this particular one seems to frustrate the hell outta ya doesn't mean it's any less valid then whatever it is y'all do.
In terms of camo being bugged, who the hell cares? There are literally too many to keep track of and its been like this forever it ain't gettin fixed any time soon. I'm also willing to bet almost all of you run some aort of bugged skill or equipment or something. Reverb? Axe? Endurance/agility? 2 piece Kena? I could go on on.
If you are constantly gettin killed like this then you either have some adjustments to make or you're being stubborn and not willing to change anything.
Shout out to Smiff and Asian Mayhem y'all have gotten some good shots on me the past week.
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Dude you cannot adjust your build enough to combat against getting hit by 34k damage in one second and dropping.
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Angus✭✭✭I play some vamp toons in light armor, so have felt some of your pain. But...no, im not going to use RML on a stam build,
Then you need a different counter, better positioning/awareness, or accept the tradeoff.vamps are not meant to run around in stealth 24/7 at all
We've got an awesome passive that means we can, and be fast too. If you don't want to be seen and killed on a squishy build, taking advantage of that is pretty damn useful.if i where to run ALOT of health and heavy armor to be more tanky, id clearly miss out on alot of stats and wouldnt be as effective at all
Much like how your killers miss out on stats, bar skill slots, and become much less effective at other things as a tradeoff to be able to burst vampires like you.im yet to find a counter that stops this cheesy stuff from happening
There's been plenty of suggestions in this thread, and IMHO you shouldn't even be able to counter it. The people killing you are running the counter of your build - rock paper scissors would be a lot less interesting if paper could kill both scissors and rock.dont got what it takes lolol sorry im not pro, teach me how to play?
I think he was trying to with his suggestions. I don't think you want to learn.Edited by Angus on January 20, 2016 5:23PMAngus of Noquar franchise.
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Yes i'm a stamina build. I use RML on two bar's. I don't use Fear and Piercing Mark (RML replace's this). You just need to remember, you can't have it all. You will always run into someone who is built to counter you.
You also need to remember, Vampire is more centered around magicka player's. Drain Essence scale's off max magicka/spell damage. So as a Stamina Templar, your going to need to sacrifice somewhere to prevent these Camo Hunter death's. Vampire isn't really good in general on a stamina templar simply because there is no room for you to deal with the drawback's of being a vampire. Stamina Nightblade has an easier time dealing with these issue's imo. I don't use fear on my setup though, i sacrifice.
People only die with 30k health when Camofaluge Hunter was broken. It didn't matter if you had 50k health, you could probably put them down. 2-4 Camouflage Hunter proc's from one combo was overkill and exploited by many. This does not happen anymore.
There are still player's out there that can stealth gank you without camouflage hunter and kill you with 30k health though. It's all about that perfect rotation and hitting player's who are slow to react. The kicker, if these player's fail they most likely die.
"Don't got what it take's". It's more about sacrificing to play a vampire without dieing to these type's of ganker's. I'm not pro or trying to teach you how to play. However if you "Don't got what it take's" to deal with these sacrifice's to prevent these kind of death's from Camo Hunter.. you might as well not be a vampire.
I would gladly make a build video or vampire "how to" video. The more i can educate people about being a vampire the less i would see thread's like these on the forum's.
About the sentry set, i was just stating i don't use cheese meta build's. I wasn't trying to claim i was the only one wearing it xD.
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on January 20, 2016 5:44PMPS4 NA DC2
lol 
