Do support roles get a fair chance at monster Helm drops?

Mr5had0w · January 2016

Been and always will be a healer. I still have 2760 spell damage while playing a healer. I have farmed monster helms for weeks at this point. Only to get people more helms they already have (sad about trait) who decon them. I no that the IC sewer worked on top dps players to determine drops. Leaving all the support player (people who keep the squishy and instant KO dps players alive) with garbage. Im beginning to think vet dungeons r using that to determine drops. Also having gotten one Helm, they suddenly start falling out of the sky for people.

Im sick of supporting people with no sustainability, dragging them threw dungeons, to have them be rewarded.

Why should you play support roles at all? Should i switch to dps rather than healing/dpsing?

I rather do maelstrom vet than wax other players shafts, getting them helms till they get divines.

sirrmattus · January 2016

Mr5had0w wrote: »

Been and always will be a healer. I still have 2760 spell damage while playing a healer. I have farmed monster helms for weeks at this point. Only to get people more helms they already have (sad about trait) who decon them. I no that the IC sewer worked on top dps players to determine drops. Leaving all the support player (people who keep the squishy and instant KO dps players alive) with garbage. Im beginning to think vet dungeons r using that to determine drops. Also having gotten one Helm, they suddenly start falling out of the sky for people.

Im sick of supporting people with no sustainability, dragging them threw dungeons, to have them be rewarded.

Why should you play support roles at all? Should i switch to dps rather than healing/dpsing?

I rather do maelstrom vet than wax other players shafts, getting them helms till they get divines.

I dont think RNG is prejudice, but i experience the same ***

Heindrich · January 2016

I have done 25 runs of vWGT, no masks, not even bad trait. I only play dps.

rng is rng.

BalticBlues · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

I dont think RNG is prejudice, but i experience the same ***

As I already suggested here weeks ago,
I think that the more DPS you do, the better are the chances to get a helmet.
This leaves healers in a pretty bad spot.

However, if you think the helmet RNG is bad, the shoulder RNG is even worse.
I've got my favorite helmet at least after *weeks* of vet dungeon farming.
The fitting shoulder I do not have after *months* of undaunted pledges...

Decado · January 2016

I find the opposite of this is true for me, my healer friends get more helms, than the DPS, I'm sorry to say I think it's more your bad luck than there good luck lol

eliisra · January 2016

Healers and tanks only get screwed when there's more than 12+ people beating on a boss. Basically if the so called encounter is being zerged down by more players than indented, you need to play a maxed out dps build to be credited loot and completion.

But dungeons bosses are 4-man content, so doesn't matter what role you play or how much hps or dps you mash out, you get loot regardless of performance.

Rng sucks in ESO. That's why you're not getting anything. Changing role wont help. I have crap luck on both my tank, dps and healer

Mr5had0w · January 2016

The loot is the opposite of need before greed. My entire account ive never got one, got a few shoulders (mostly copies of 4 sets) only from keys. People r getting 2 or 3 in a row, have 5+ of the same. I would be happy with even training on the Helm at this point. I think its like motifs. Within a week if getting your first you will atleast have 3 at the end.

They need to switch to a system that the more you do them and dont get the Helm you have a better shot on the drop. Getting different 2 or 3 helms for people doing speed runs is making me hate the game. Getting pitty from all the people i run them with.

Islyn · January 2016

Heindrich wrote: »

I have done 25 runs of vWGT, no masks, not even bad trait. I only play dps.

rng is rng.

Yep and on my healer I've gotten 3 mk hats and today my 2nd good nerieneth.

Rng is a ***.

(I've also received a metric fton of imperium so :-P)

Mr5had0w · January 2016

Well rng should never be this extreme. I rather not play if im helpless and beholden to a rng that gives me no chance (or a extremely minimal one). If this was proven no one would play the game. Who would go to a casino knowing you have a 0.05 chance of winning? It seems to be a minut percent of the population has awful luck. Everyone and there mother has atleast one.

OmniDevil · January 2016

I've been healing since Orsinium dropped. Running vDarkshade three times a day since IC was released. Just got my helm on the third run last night. Just rng.

strikeback1247 · January 2016

I randomly got a Nerien'eth helmet during my gold pledge today and a mephala helm yesterday. You guys need to pray to the rng gods more often.

Y'all need RNGesus.

Knaxia · January 2016

Got the Engine Guardian helm on my 2nd ever run as a healer, it's just RNG, no better or worse chance depending on your role.

SirDopey · January 2016

My main is a healer, only time I've picked up helms is when I've been on one of my DPS toons or when I've 2 - 3 manned a dungeon on my healer in a DPS role. Have never picked one up whilst healing, coincidence maybe, I dunno.....

Mojmir · January 2016

I get helms and shoulders for engine a lot, same with mephala. took over 200 runs to get my skoria helm, when IC patch hit I had keys saved, first one was kena shoulder.

darkdivideb16_ESO · January 2016

I play dps only (decent 18-20k, definitely been top dps in some of the groups I've had) & get crappy drops, its not just healers.

Ruben · January 2016

BalticBlues wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

I dont think RNG is prejudice, but i experience the same ***

As I already suggested here weeks ago,
I think that the more DPS you do, the better are the chances to get a helmet.
This leaves healers in a pretty bad spot.

However, if you think the helmet RNG is bad, the shoulder RNG is even worse.
I've got my favorite helmet at least after *weeks* of vet dungeon farming.
The fitting shoulder I do not have after *months* of undaunted pledges...

Nah, I have tanked Spindleclutch 4 times for a friend who wanted the helm (he's a dps) and I got 2 medium divines and a heavy impenetrable, he got nothing.

Damage done doesn't matter and/or I was extremely lucky.

NBrookus · January 2016

Most of my dungeon runs have been as a tank, and if anything I think I've had more helm drops than my teammates. I don't think it matters in 4-man dungeons.

That these helms typically are useless for me with crap traits is an entire other issue!