Lag Benefits Stamina Players, Buff Light Armor temporarily

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Can we get a 20% flat buff to light armor until the pvp lag is fixed? The only, and I repeat, only reason i'm dying to these Nightblades and Stam DK is because I can't switch my bar fast enough to pop a Healing Ward. The lag either prevents me from switching bars entirely, or Healing Ward doesn't actually resolve until the third button press. Either way, its not that stamina/ambush builds are better, its that the lag is making their tactics mega-effective.

Once the lag is fixed, im very happy with my magicka DK. Spamming an enemy zerg with Destructive Reach and making them bounce like popcorn so my guildies can finish them off with AoE spam is the BEES KNEES.

sirrmattus · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Can we get a 20% flat buff to light armor until the pvp lag is fixed? The only, and I repeat, only reason i'm dying to these Nightblades and Stam DK is because I can't switch my bar fast enough to pop a Healing Ward. The lag either prevents me from switching bars entirely, or Healing Ward doesn't actually resolve until the third button press. Either way, its not that stamina/ambush builds are better, its that the lag is making their tactics mega-effective.

Once the lag is fixed, im very happy with my magicka DK. Spamming an enemy zerg with Destructive Reach and making them bounce like popcorn so my guildies can finish them off with AoE spam is the BEES KNEES.

I think your problem is; healing ward is your only defence. AS A DK? i dont understand this..

destructive reach? reallly?

Molag_Crow · January 2016

I know right... the amount of times I've tried to quickly bar swap to heal and failed due to lag... well, I've lost count actually. I might have to stick BoL on my main bar lmao

Sallington · January 2016

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Healing Ward into Mutagen and Blessing of Restoration.
Destructive Reach into Force Pulse with perfect animation cancelling and Shooting Stars, and Dragon Fire Scales for protection.

My build works fine bud, the only reason im ever dying in 1v1 or 1v2 situations is lag, because im winning those encounters when the lag isn't present. My only legitimate deaths are when im singled out by a large group, in which case, I wasn't surviving anyway, because DK have no escape.

sirrmattus · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Healing Ward into Mutagen and Blessing of Restoration.
Destructive Reach into Force Pulse with perfect animation cancelling and Shooting Stars, and Dragon Fire Scales for protection.

My build works fine bud, the only reason im ever dying in 1v1 or 1v2 situations is lag, because im winning those encounters when the lag isn't present. My only legitimate deaths are when im singled out by a large group, in which case, I wasn't surviving anyway, because DK have no escape.

wow... what faction are you? id love to kill you; sounds like an easy win.
L2P and quit QQ

Sallington · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Healing Ward into Mutagen and Blessing of Restoration.
Destructive Reach into Force Pulse with perfect animation cancelling and Shooting Stars, and Dragon Fire Scales for protection.

My build works fine bud, the only reason im ever dying in 1v1 or 1v2 situations is lag, because im winning those encounters when the lag isn't present. My only legitimate deaths are when im singled out by a large group, in which case, I wasn't surviving anyway, because DK have no escape.

classic.

Voxicity · January 2016

One question... why not put your heal on your main bar 'temporarily'?

Voxicity · January 2016

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CavalierPrime · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

CavalierPrime wrote: »

Healing Ward into Mutagen and Blessing of Restoration.
Destructive Reach into Force Pulse with perfect animation cancelling and Shooting Stars, and Dragon Fire Scales for protection.

My build works fine bud, the only reason im ever dying in 1v1 or 1v2 situations is lag, because im winning those encounters when the lag isn't present. My only legitimate deaths are when im singled out by a large group, in which case, I wasn't surviving anyway, because DK have no escape.

wow... what faction are you? id love to kill you; sounds like an easy win.
L2P and quit QQ

I mean if youre rocking magicka det and Bat Swarm and youre emperor with 501 cp, you probably got me. I lose to Baconator when he's running that set up. Im 400k AP from magicka det. Im telling you that on my campaign, I am wrecking pretty much everybody 1v1 and 1v2, and when im dying in 1v1 or 1v2, its because I couldn't bar swap due to lag. If I can heal and stabilize, its a wrap. Unless its the 1% of ocassions its Emperor Baconator and his vampire shenanigans.

Brrrofski · January 2016

Vox wrote: »

One question... why not put your heal on your main bar?

It's a resto skill.

But OP, keep in mind stam users may have a heal on their back bar. Also, they have to try and connect melee moves in that lag.

I much prefer being on my sorc when it's laggy. Just sit back and cast. Trying to weave Ransack on my stamplar or land wrecking blows on stam Sorc when I'm fighting in treacle is a lot worse.

sirrmattus · January 2016

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I mean if youre rocking magicka det and Bat Swarm and youre emperor with 501 cp, you probably got me. I lose to Baconator when he's running that set up. Im 400k AP from magicka det. Im telling you that on my campaign, I am wrecking pretty much everybody 1v1 and 1v2, and when im dying in 1v1 or 1v2, its because I couldn't bar swap due to lag. If I can heal and stabilize, its a wrap. Unless its the 1% of ocassions its Emperor Baconator and his vampire shenanigans.

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dude.. you are so full of it. mag dk, not using dragon blood? mag dk not using petrify? mag dk not using whip? mag dk not using obsidian shield? mag dk not being a dk?

i could understand resto staff for healing ward, but as your main heal? na man. thats horrible

MrDerrikk · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

I mean if youre rocking magicka det and Bat Swarm and youre emperor with 501 cp, you probably got me. I lose to Baconator when he's running that set up. Im 400k AP from magicka det. Im telling you that on my campaign, I am wrecking pretty much everybody 1v1 and 1v2, and when im dying in 1v1 or 1v2, its because I couldn't bar swap due to lag. If I can heal and stabilize, its a wrap. Unless its the 1% of ocassions its Emperor Baconator and his vampire shenanigans.

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dude.. you are so full of it. mag dk, not using dragon blood? mag dk not using petrify? mag dk not using whip? mag dk not using obsidian shield? mag dk not being a dk?

i could understand resto staff for healing ward, but as your main heal? na man. thats horrible[/quote]

You can't use Dragon Blood in PvP anymore with the battle spirit healing debuff, as it only heals 16.5%, so quite useless.

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

Vox wrote: »

One question... why not put your heal on your main bar?

It's a resto skill.

But OP, keep in mind stam users may have a heal on their back bar. Also, they have to try and connect melee moves in that lag.

I much prefer being on my sorc when it's laggy. Just sit back and cast. Trying to weave Ransack on my stamplar or land wrecking blows on stam Sorc when I'm fighting in treacle is a lot worse.

Eh, nobody is really standing up to my combination of damage and self-healing. Ever since I started eating detection pots like candy, NB can't hang, Templars have no offense, and most DK are stamina so theyre just Nightblades with no cloak. Sorcerers can't get through my Scales and absurd spell resist because as a Breton DK I get SR passives from being both. 1v1 with a sorc can take 5-10 minutes though, until he slips up on his rotation.

sirrmattus · January 2016

@MrDerrikk

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

CavalierPrime · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

I mean if youre rocking magicka det and Bat Swarm and youre emperor with 501 cp, you probably got me. I lose to Baconator when he's running that set up. Im 400k AP from magicka det. Im telling you that on my campaign, I am wrecking pretty much everybody 1v1 and 1v2, and when im dying in 1v1 or 1v2, its because I couldn't bar swap due to lag. If I can heal and stabilize, its a wrap. Unless its the 1% of ocassions its Emperor Baconator and his vampire shenanigans.

dude.. you are so full of it. mag dk, not using dragon blood? mag dk not using petrify? mag dk not using whip? mag dk not using obsidian shield? mag dk not being a dk?

i could understand resto staff for healing ward, but as your main heal? na man. thats horrible

Dragon Blood - garbage
Petrify - doesn't work half the time
Flame Lash - good but I dont fight in melee range
Igneous Shield - somewhat decent heal buff but not great with my build and cp setup.

Mag DK really just use Scales and Standard. A sword and board mag dk can use Take Flight, talons, lash. Magma Armor is a decent ultimate, situationally. Deep Breath is a decent AoE for zerg vs zerg situations. Healing Ward is not a "main heal", but the opening spell of a healing rotation. Healing Ward prevents imminent death.

Edit: this thread is not a "how good/bad is cav at playing his mag dk in pvp". Im simply saying that too many of my deaths to stamina and ambush players is because I hit "swap bar" and the game said "no". A small light armor buff may keep me alive long enough for the bar to finally switch and for Healing Ward to resolve, which will allow me a chance to fight back.

MrDerrikk · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

@MrDerrikk

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

I agree it can be made to be good, however it requires you to waste a slot on Igneous Shield (if you're in a small group and so not benefiting the whole team) and to cast twice for the 20% heal received from Coagulating + passive. Nothing comes close to the burst heal provided by Healing Ward.

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

OK this is getting ridiculous.

Magicka in no way possible needs buffed. So please stop with the buff magicka and nerf stamina threads.

Ruben · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

@MrDerrikk

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

It heals based on missing health. It's useless before you're almost dead.

sirrmattus · January 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

@MrDerrikk

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

I agree it can be made to be good, however it requires you to waste a slot on Igneous Shield (if you're in a small group and so not benefiting the whole team) and to cast twice for the 20% heal received from Coagulating + passive. Nothing comes close to the burst heal provided by Healing Ward.

healing ward isn't a burst heal!! It's a shield that if it does not take dmg it heals. How can you depend on that?

leepalmer95 · January 2016

GDB is useless, ward is pretty much the only heal a mag dk has, that and the heals off whip.

MrDerrikk · January 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

I agree it can be made to be good, however it requires you to waste a slot on Igneous Shield (if you're in a small group and so not benefiting the whole team) and to cast twice for the 20% heal received from Coagulating + passive. Nothing comes close to the burst heal provided by Healing Ward.

healing ward isn't a burst heal!! It's a shield that if it does not take dmg it heals. How can you depend on that?

Because it's also one of the strongest shields in the game when used at low health (the same place you'd have to be for Dragon Blood to be any good anyway) so it takes a bit for the enemy to get through it.

Alcast · January 2016

solid suggestion

CavalierPrime · January 2016

MrDerrikk wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

I agree it can be made to be good, however it requires you to waste a slot on Igneous Shield (if you're in a small group and so not benefiting the whole team) and to cast twice for the 20% heal received from Coagulating + passive. Nothing comes close to the burst heal provided by Healing Ward.

healing ward isn't a burst heal!! It's a shield that if it does not take dmg it heals. How can you depend on that?

Because it's also one of the strongest shields in the game when used at low health (the same place you'd have to be for Dragon Blood to be any good anyway) so it takes a bit for the enemy to get through it.

And he still hasn't grasped the fact that im going Ward-> Mutagen->Blessing, and not just Ward. Once I do my little combo and roll away, it becomes a fair fight. Im assuming he's a NB who loves to kill players before the lag lets them defend themselves.

MaxwellC · January 2016

Lol my fellow DK brethen dares to bare fangs at a stam based DK? Come on mate I've fought plenty of mag DKs as a stam DK and boy do they make me run out of stamina quick with CCs/talons while they whip the hell out of me XD

sirrmattus · January 2016

CavalierPrime wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

sirrmattus wrote: »

at 20k health, thats 3300 health, plus your 30% regen bonus and increased healing. how is this useless?

I agree it can be made to be good, however it requires you to waste a slot on Igneous Shield (if you're in a small group and so not benefiting the whole team) and to cast twice for the 20% heal received from Coagulating + passive. Nothing comes close to the burst heal provided by Healing Ward.

healing ward isn't a burst heal!! It's a shield that if it does not take dmg it heals. How can you depend on that?

Because it's also one of the strongest shields in the game when used at low health (the same place you'd have to be for Dragon Blood to be any good anyway) so it takes a bit for the enemy to get through it.

And he still hasn't grasped the fact that im going Ward-> Mutagen->Blessing, and not just Ward. Once I do my little combo and roll away, it becomes a fair fight. Im assuming he's a NB who loves to kill players before the lag lets them defend themselves.

Look at my signature. Any one of them will kill ur Wak dk using 3 heal skills.

sirrmattus · January 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

Lol my fellow DK brethen dares to bare fangs at a stam based DK? Come on mate I've fought plenty of mag DKs as a stam DK and boy do they make me run out of stamina quick with CCs/talons while they whip the hell out of me XD

Exactly my point

CavalierPrime · January 2016

Alcast wrote: »

solid suggestion

Im honored to have a legendary DK like you approve. Ive seen many of your vids and incorporated some of your advice into my own play.

smacx250 · January 2016

I have mutagen on my back bar in the same spot hardened is on the front bar - I've accidentally healed nearby stealthed allies so many times switching to the front bar and then hitting hardened, only to find the switch didn't take, that I moved mutagen somewhere else! But that doesn't kill me nearly as much as the reverse when I switch to the back bar and hit streak, and instead curse the empty spot I'm trying to get to!

I thought this was a good suggestion:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/234343/push-weapon-swapping-back-to-the-client-like-dodge-roll

sirrmattus · January 2016

Alcast wrote: »

solid suggestion

Ye great idea. Buff light armor so then nobody can kill sorcs? Cmon alcast

strikeback1247 · January 2016

Number 1 rule of online gaming: "Whenever you die, blame lag"