Please give fightersguild a major wep dmg buff like mages guild have in entropy.

Brrrofski · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

OP is being a spoilt child bow.

I want major evasion using light armor

I want major expedition while using two hander or sword and board.

I want a cleanse on my stam Dk

I want ice comet to give me spell damage while slotted

I want a ranged attack on my two handed

Wah wah wah.

You don't get certain things when you use others things. Deal with it. You can get it with two hander, dual wield (in combat like entropy) or use pots. As a nb, you have a class skill. That's 4 ways. That's plenty.

Holy *** whats wrong with people, since when did a suggestion from one players opinion provoke such rudeness? *facepalm*

Because you're posts back to people were rude.

People suggest stuff and you said "nope, not good enough. I want fighter's guild skill and I want it now"

This forum is full of cry babies. This class has that, this weapons has this, this armor set does that.

Not everything needs an equal. Not everything needs to be the same. Either use two handed, flying blade, power extraction or pots. If none of them suit you, learn to play without it.

hedna123b14_ESO · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

@Destruent

You come to a man who's fallen down a hole. He shouts up to you, "help, I've got a problem and I don't know how to fix it." You tell him, in painstaking detail how he can climb out. He says, "no, you don't understand, then I won't have anything to complain about."

That sound about right?

Ive tried explaining why pots, sap or hidden blade is a worse option to me (in pvp) then using a 2h, so Im using a 2h atm, but id like to not have to, so I go to the forum to suggest adding this buff to a fighters guild skill or some other skill. What exactly is your problem with this suggestion? do you NEED to troll or disagree just for the sake of it? After ive explained why, youre still trying to convince me, that im wrong and you are right. L2R

Here is the issue with your request. Your argument states that you desire a fighters Guild skill upgrade to bring it in line with mages guild. The issues is that there are many factors affecting stamina and magicka and they are by NO means equal. As a magicka User you CAN get major brutality from mages guild, but you are also limited by ways to boost your spell damage. Unless you are a sorc, 25% is max. Stam users can go as high as 51% boost to weapon damage. Because of the inherent inequality that lies between magicka and stamina it is hard to justify your "it isn't fair" assessment.

You also talk about flexibility, please enlighten me which other options there are for a damage dealing magicka User besides destruction staff and in a few rare cases (templar/sorc off bar) dual wield? There is NO flexibility. Stamina users have 2 handed, dual wield, bow.

The point is that there are advantages to each side and it is hard to make a case for your argument...

bertenburnyb16_ESO · January 2016

can mag users have +8% spelldamage passive stam users have ty

fyi... u cant have it all

Shelgon · January 2016

is this for pvp? cuz i got news for you, 90% of the reason to use rally ISN'T for the major brutality buff.

Dexter411 · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Im sick of being reliant on 2h and rally to keep my weapondmg buff up at all times. (dont mention hidden blade because this duration is laughable and you cant keep it up at all times cause of lack of oponenents without reflect up)

Another whine. How I love to see this on forum. I want stam morph of this, i play x buff it. I want this ability.
Do You want to play a game where EVERYTHING has it mirror when it comes to magicka vs stamina?
Game is designed this way, as stamina You can get Major Brutality in 2 ways if your class does not have one.
Deal with it and of You go on penalty box
Edit: You have 3 ways to get Major brutality. My bad. But if you dont want to use potion or any other way. Leave game and stop being whinning ***.

Autolycus · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Im sick of being reliant on 2h and rally to keep my weapondmg buff up at all times. (dont mention hidden blade because this duration is laughable and you cant keep it up at all times cause of lack of oponenents without reflect up)

I bolded a portion up top because I wanted something more specific to work with. I take it this means you are predominately a PvP player.

First of all, what class are you playing? This will help to gauge some of the other options are your disposal (if you are in fact looking for feedback, and not just stating the problem).

What would you use instead of DW on your off bar?
Are you utilizing crafted potions?

willymchilybily · January 2016

sorry Op have to agree with the cacophony of voices saying.... it doesn't work like that. At some point you have to make a sacrifice. you either lose the defence of the shield, the range of the bow, use sap essence and only get buffed when close range, or use weapon power + stam pots and miss out on a little health/magicka from the tristats. Or you go without the Buff.

i really think anything else would be bad design.

olsborg · January 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

OP is being a spoilt child bow.

I want major evasion using light armor

I want major expedition while using two hander or sword and board.

I want a cleanse on my stam Dk

I want ice comet to give me spell damage while slotted

I want a ranged attack on my two handed

Wah wah wah.

You don't get certain things when you use others things. Deal with it. You can get it with two hander, dual wield (in combat like entropy) or use pots. As a nb, you have a class skill. That's 4 ways. That's plenty.

Holy *** whats wrong with people, since when did a suggestion from one players opinion provoke such rudeness? *facepalm*

Because you're posts back to people were rude.

Is it rude to say that ive already commented (multiple times) about something not working for my build and they should read it..kk

Dark_Aether · January 2016

OP is literally just saying "devs need to give me what I want the way I want it, the options available are not enough"

MrDerrikk · January 2016

As almost (it may be everyone actually) else is saying OP, homogenizing the classes/resource types is not the way to make the game good. It's all about what you want to sacrifice in order to get the other skills. As a magic user, I absolutely loathe having to use Entropy for my Major Sorcery buff, as it needs to be used on a target and is just generally a weak skill IMO where the main benefit is the buff.

You have easy access to Rally, where you can have a good HoT and Major buff without having to engage, something I find comparable to Surge on my Sorc, so you really shouldn't be complaining. Remember, it's about what you're willing to sacrifice for what you want. You think the others on the battlefield aren't going through the same dilemma?

Brrrofski · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

OP is being a spoilt child bow.

I want major evasion using light armor

I want major expedition while using two hander or sword and board.

I want a cleanse on my stam Dk

I want ice comet to give me spell damage while slotted

I want a ranged attack on my two handed

Wah wah wah.

You don't get certain things when you use others things. Deal with it. You can get it with two hander, dual wield (in combat like entropy) or use pots. As a nb, you have a class skill. That's 4 ways. That's plenty.

Holy *** whats wrong with people, since when did a suggestion from one players opinion provoke such rudeness? *facepalm*

Because you're posts back to people were rude.

Is it rude to say that ive already commented (multiple times) about something not working for my build and they should read it..kk

People are basically saying you need to change your build and stop being so stubborn if you want the buff. Because it's how it is. Adapt, or live without the buff.

You only mentioned rally and blade. Then shot down people suggesting pots and power extraction.

I don't even know what the problem is with Power extraction. You have to be on close, but it's in combat like entropy. Or is it because you want to sit in stealth and just snipe people? I'm assuming that's it.

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2016

At least all but one FG skill is decent mages guild has crap skills for most builds besides that and meteor if it wasn't for fall damage bug I bet no one would use that rune and who uses equilibrium?

Dark_Aether · January 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

OP is being a spoilt child bow.

I want major evasion using light armor

I want major expedition while using two hander or sword and board.

I want a cleanse on my stam Dk

I want ice comet to give me spell damage while slotted

I want a ranged attack on my two handed

Wah wah wah.

You don't get certain things when you use others things. Deal with it. You can get it with two hander, dual wield (in combat like entropy) or use pots. As a nb, you have a class skill. That's 4 ways. That's plenty.

Holy *** whats wrong with people, since when did a suggestion from one players opinion provoke such rudeness? *facepalm*

Because you're posts back to people were rude.

Is it rude to say that ive already commented (multiple times) about something not working for my build and they should read it..kk

People are basically saying you need to change your build and stop being so stubborn if you want the buff. Because it's how it is. Adapt, or live without the buff.

You only mentioned rally and blade. Then shot down people suggesting pots and power extraction.

I don't even know what the problem is with Power extraction. You have to be on close, but it's in combat like entropy. Or is it because you want to sit in stealth and just snipe people? I'm assuming that's it.

He can already snipe people in stealth, but I think he's been getting caught off guard up close lately and cannot fight back, too squishy. So he wants to switch the 2h for one hand and shield and keep the benefits of Rally. It is not that easy my friend, chose one of the suggestions above or learn to fight.

Forestd16b14_ESO · January 2016

Good idea as much as I love being a 2H user tired of players using 2H for the wrong reason and that be rally+WB spam.

Too bad the vampire players are already crying for fighters guild nerfs cause "they're tired of being 1-shot killed by it".

Islyn · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

dday3six wrote: »

DW is the best option front bar for Stamina DPS, and pots are the best option for Major Brutality. I use Rally when I want to be cheap, but pots last longer and don't require a bar swap.

My build is reliant on tripots for regeneration so using pots for this isnt possible for me, I dont rly see a probem adding the major buff to evil hunter etc that lasts for 20 -30 seconds like entrpy does for spelldmg buff.

Why base your build on most expensive pots. Tripots aren't REALLY necessary for stam builds.

olsborg wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

found1779 wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Im sick of being reliant on 2h and rally to keep my weapondmg buff up at all times. (dont mention hidden blade because this duration is laughable and you cant keep it up at all times cause of lack of oponenents without reflect up)

Stamina sorcerer i just use critical surge for a weapon buff it last awhile plus dawnbreaker morph increases weapon damage also as long as it's slotted

Sadly im a NB so I dont have a class skill that lets me do this, atm im stuck with using 2h.

Tyrion87 wrote: »

There is already an ultimate (Flawless Dawnbreaker) which actually passively increases your damage with weapon attacks as far as I remember (as magicka sorc I chose the other morph, so I cannot recall what exactly the Flawless Dawnbreaker does).

Yea, but that still doesnt help me get the major wep dmg buff now does it.

you can use power extraction/sap essence...and yes, i know it has it's downsides, but it's the same with entropy.

Sadly that wont do much for me either as it requires a target in melee, and im using a bow 50% of the time. Rally is great, its not that, its the fact that you have to use 2h to have the buff up most of the time...wich I dont like.

You are aware, that everyone except sorcerers are sharing your problem??? It doesn't matter, wether you play magicka or stamina. Just accept that this is a sorcerer-only-thing.
sry, i can't take this serious...atleast you DO have a possibility to get your major buff without getting into combat/out of stealth.

And your point being? My point is: Id like to have an option to turn on major wep dmg buff without having to use 2h. If you disagree, thats fine, but that doesnt rly fix my issue now does it...

my point is, that everything has it's downsides^^
What about changing your build so you can use wep-dmg-potions? You have the possibility, but you refuse to use it.

Its not that I refuse to use it, this post is about the possibility to have this buff added to a fightersguild skill, wich I dont think should be a problem given that mages guild has it. This would give stamina users a wider array of weapon of choice. If you disagree, thats fine, but dont force your opinion on me.

Mages Guild has it, bc there is no weapon skill providing major sorcery.

Wich is great for magicka builds because they dont have to restrict themself to a weapon to get that buff (they do have get restricted to restoration staffs for heals, but that is a different story)

as said earlier...you can use potions, twohander, dual wield, sap. Magicka-users can use potions and entropy (maybe sap/surge). What if a magicka user (no sorc) wants to have major sercery out of combat and refuses to use potions. It's exactly the same problem....but noone complains, bc there IS a solution--> potions. it's your choice to use it or not.

I dont think you even read what I write in this thread, you just jump in and force your opinion...gg.

Tripots are not really the best for you anyway. You should be using Wep Crit Pots (Blessed Thistle, Wormwood, Dragonthorn)

Also:

Major Brutality: +20% weapon damage.
Two Handed, Momentum (+morphs)
Werewolf, Rousing Roar (Roar)
Nightblade, Drain Power (+morphs)
Sorcerer, Surge (+morphs)

starkerealm wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

There is already an ultimate (Flawless Dawnbreaker) which actually passively increases your damage with weapon attacks as far as I remember (as magicka sorc I chose the other morph, so I cannot recall what exactly the Flawless Dawnbreaker does).

+8% damage while slotted. Which stacks with brutality, incidentally.

and yes I was going to mention Flawless Dawnbreaker too.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

OP is being a spoilt child bow.

I want major evasion using light armor

I want major expedition while using two hander or sword and board.

I want a cleanse on my stam Dk

I want ice comet to give me spell damage while slotted

I want a ranged attack on my two handed

Wah wah wah.

You don't get certain things when you use others things. Deal with it. You can get it with two hander, dual wield (in combat like entropy) or use pots. As a nb, you have a class skill. That's 4 ways. That's plenty.

Holy *** whats wrong with people, since when did a suggestion from one players opinion provoke such rudeness? *facepalm*

You said a suggestion people told you why it's not a good idea and gave you other option, you spat your dummy out wanting your own way and for zos to change it just so you can play your character effectively.

Nah, not happening either adapt or stop playing a nb 1 shot snipe build.

starkerealm · January 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Is it rude to say that ive already commented (multiple times) about something not working for my build and they should read it..kk

We did. We saw. We told you how you can fix it. And, you stomped your foot and responded with, "I dun wanna!" So, yes, some rudeness is probably an inevitable result.

There are ways you can fix your build. There are a lot of ways you can fix your build. If you're not interested in any of them, that's really not our problem.

KhajiitiLizard · January 2016

Knootewoot wrote: »

The mage guild entropy is not as good as rally. Not only does it take you out of stealth, you also have to use in on enemy in order to get the 20% buff.

Rally can be used in stealth and can be used out of combat.

I wish there was a magicka variant of this.

There is one but it's sorcs only...

Alucardo · January 2016

I thought about this same thing, but then I realised it'd make my stam sorc pretty much non-unique. At the moment he can use any weapon sets he wants because of surge. No other class can really boast that. You give everyone access to self major brutality and you'll make me wonder why I chose stam sorc in the first place.
It's not to say I think it's a horrible idea.

N0TPLAYER2 · January 2016

I wanna play how I want.

And I want ultimate abilities on every action bar

And potions that fill my ultimate for 10 minutes straight.

I want that, so give it to me.