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are you just so tired of seeing nightblades in pvp
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »Nope, as having mained a nightblade I know easily how to deal with them.
The easiest and most accessible way is Radiant Magelight. It is what is known in competitive terms as a HARD COUNTER.
Step 1: Laugh at the fail spambush.
Step 2: Destroy it.
Step 3: Profit.
Back in the days, everyone was a DK, then everyone was a Sorc, then everyone was a Temp, now everyone is a NB. War, war never change.
??? never happened and will never happen.
All my friends rolled temp for jesus beam, all I saw was templars with jesus beam and all I heard was "OP OP OP" jesus beam. Some patches later I laughed at them.
Sure...bc people saw death-recap with 20k jesus beam or so and they didn't think about the 3 sek. channel...It doesn't matter which attack you spam. If there are enough people the enemy will die.
Yes, most players will run whatever class have an "oh mi gosh" feature, no matter how it is. They watch streamers and go for the class like Justin Bieber fans. That's normal in any MMO, so whilst I find it silly, it doesn't bother me. I play DK since launch and I love it, will keep playing no matter how many nerfs they throw. That said, the fate of NBs are pretty clear, they will get a nerf due all the yelling. Very sad as the right thing to do would be BUFF all classes AT SAME TIME. The cinematic characters are OP af, why can't we all be OP for epic battles. Nerf = Boring combat.
I they do nerf it, i hope they don't kill it off like they did to mag dk. The problem with zos is they make changes too late, 6 months per pvp patch is horrible. When IC dropped they buffed cloak, nerfed detect pots and made a DLC where mobs are high pack density and do high dmg while buffed the only class that can just lose aggro. Too many buff combined with nerf's to other classes.
If they did these 1 by 1 they would of likely reached a good 'balance' before it got to the point it is now.PS4 EU DC
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Cously✭✭✭✭✭
✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »Nope, as having mained a nightblade I know easily how to deal with them.
The easiest and most accessible way is Radiant Magelight. It is what is known in competitive terms as a HARD COUNTER.
Step 1: Laugh at the fail spambush.
Step 2: Destroy it.
Step 3: Profit.
Back in the days, everyone was a DK, then everyone was a Sorc, then everyone was a Temp, now everyone is a NB. War, war never change.
??? never happened and will never happen.
All my friends rolled temp for jesus beam, all I saw was templars with jesus beam and all I heard was "OP OP OP" jesus beam. Some patches later I laughed at them.
Sure...bc people saw death-recap with 20k jesus beam or so and they didn't think about the 3 sek. channel...It doesn't matter which attack you spam. If there are enough people the enemy will die.
Yes, most players will run whatever class have an "oh mi gosh" feature, no matter how it is. They watch streamers and go for the class like Justin Bieber fans. That's normal in any MMO, so whilst I find it silly, it doesn't bother me. I play DK since launch and I love it, will keep playing no matter how many nerfs they throw. That said, the fate of NBs are pretty clear, they will get a nerf due all the yelling. Very sad as the right thing to do would be BUFF all classes AT SAME TIME. The cinematic characters are OP af, why can't we all be OP for epic battles. Nerf = Boring combat.
I'm all for better class balance...but pls don't just buff everyone. The game is already so stupidly easy in pve. Good groups just faceroll everything, which isn't healthy for the game at all...
All classes should be equal in power, in my opinion very powerful like the cinematics. The difference should be in playstyle only. Good groups will faceroll everything no matter what. There are plenty of complaint threads in this forum about people that find PVE hard so that's completely relative. If you are in the group of players who faceroll everything easily, just do the dungeon without spend any CP and without pants.0 -
Destruent✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »Nope, as having mained a nightblade I know easily how to deal with them.
The easiest and most accessible way is Radiant Magelight. It is what is known in competitive terms as a HARD COUNTER.
Step 1: Laugh at the fail spambush.
Step 2: Destroy it.
Step 3: Profit.
Back in the days, everyone was a DK, then everyone was a Sorc, then everyone was a Temp, now everyone is a NB. War, war never change.
??? never happened and will never happen.
All my friends rolled temp for jesus beam, all I saw was templars with jesus beam and all I heard was "OP OP OP" jesus beam. Some patches later I laughed at them.
Sure...bc people saw death-recap with 20k jesus beam or so and they didn't think about the 3 sek. channel...It doesn't matter which attack you spam. If there are enough people the enemy will die.
Yes, most players will run whatever class have an "oh mi gosh" feature, no matter how it is. They watch streamers and go for the class like Justin Bieber fans. That's normal in any MMO, so whilst I find it silly, it doesn't bother me. I play DK since launch and I love it, will keep playing no matter how many nerfs they throw. That said, the fate of NBs are pretty clear, they will get a nerf due all the yelling. Very sad as the right thing to do would be BUFF all classes AT SAME TIME. The cinematic characters are OP af, why can't we all be OP for epic battles. Nerf = Boring combat.
I'm all for better class balance...but pls don't just buff everyone. The game is already so stupidly easy in pve. Good groups just faceroll everything, which isn't healthy for the game at all...
All classes should be equal in power, in my opinion very powerful like the cinematics. The difference should be in playstyle only. Good groups will faceroll everything no matter what. There are plenty of complaint threads in this forum about people that find PVE hard so that's completely relative. If you are in the group of players who faceroll everything easily, just do the dungeon without spend any CP and without pants.
Soloing a trial boss with a V2-character is easier than doing vMSA...so yes, group content is too easy. Also two-manning vet-dungeons isn't that big of a deal...
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NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
✭leepalmer95 wrote: »NeillMcAttack wrote: »NeillMcAttack wrote: »Nope, as having mained a nightblade I know easily how to deal with them.
The easiest and most accessible way is Radiant Magelight. It is what is known in competitive terms as a HARD COUNTER.
Step 1: Laugh at the fail spambush.
Step 2: Destroy it.
Step 3: Profit.
Back in the days, everyone was a DK, then everyone was a Sorc, then everyone was a Temp, now everyone is a NB. War, war never change.
I would almost say it's too hard a counter. Imagine an ability that mitigated half of a sorc's DPS and nullified their escape (if you know of anything send it on in a private msg pls)!!
You could use that set that just completely bypasses the classes only defence. If you know a set that just stops nb's going into cloak let me know.
Not gonna lie. Spamming light bow attacks and melting sorc's isn't getting old anytime soon
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭What I'm tired of seeing is nerf threads were players misrepresent facts and choke any sense of rational discourse with their vindictive personal bias.Edited by dday3six on January 18, 2016 11:40AM6 -
strikeback1247✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can't see most of the nightblades anyway cause of cloak :^)P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!0 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What I'm tired of seeing is nerf threads were players misrepresent facts and choke any sense are rational discourse with their vindictive personal bias.
These are just witch hunt threads with no evidence or analysis whatsoever. My guess is someone doesn't know how to avoid gankers.2 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »Nope, as having mained a nightblade I know easily how to deal with them.
The easiest and most accessible way is Radiant Magelight. It is what is known in competitive terms as a HARD COUNTER.
Step 1: Laugh at the fail spambush.
Step 2: Destroy it.
Step 3: Profit.
Back in the days, everyone was a DK, then everyone was a Sorc, then everyone was a Temp, now everyone is a NB. War, war never change.
??? never happened and will never happen.
All my friends rolled temp for jesus beam, all I saw was templars with jesus beam and all I heard was "OP OP OP" jesus beam. Some patches later I laughed at them.
Sure...bc people saw death-recap with 20k jesus beam or so and they didn't think about the 3 sek. channel...It doesn't matter which attack you spam. If there are enough people the enemy will die.
Yes, most players will run whatever class have an "oh mi gosh" feature, no matter how it is. They watch streamers and go for the class like Justin Bieber fans. That's normal in any MMO, so whilst I find it silly, it doesn't bother me. I play DK since launch and I love it, will keep playing no matter how many nerfs they throw. That said, the fate of NBs are pretty clear, they will get a nerf due all the yelling. Very sad as the right thing to do would be BUFF all classes AT SAME TIME. The cinematic characters are OP af, why can't we all be OP for epic battles. Nerf = Boring combat.
I'm all for better class balance...but pls don't just buff everyone. The game is already so stupidly easy in pve. Good groups just faceroll everything, which isn't healthy for the game at all...
Whats better class balance? You nerf NB now, they make sure something else gets nerfed in the future, its vicious cycle. I bet Rift is balancing their classes even now after 4 year or so.
I think its minority who whines about class balances, and they are never happy, let them hate siege weapons, at least they are universal, so we dont end up in class vs class battles.Edited by Sausage on January 18, 2016 11:53AM0 -
BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭No
I'm sick of a lot of other things about the game more than I am any particular class.
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found1779✭✭✭I in no way meant for this to seem like a nerf thread. that isn't what i was talking about i didn't even mention a specific reason. other then there seem to be more nightblades in pvp then any other class. i'm in general just tired of seeing nightblades in pvp especially in the imperial city sewers. i would just like to fight another class for a change i mean i get to at times but not very often. win or loose fighting the same class nbs all the time gets boring. And if it's because of specific reasons nightblades are the mosted liked class. well i would say zenimax needs to do something about this and spice up the other classes by adding things to them or changing something with them. so people would also want to play them classes again. so there will be a balance in the game of classes.Edited by found1779 on January 18, 2016 1:00PM1 -
heyewe✭✭✭I love this game (..and am obviously 'soul shriven' so I'm not squeaking anythin' about buffin' or nerfin'!) and would really love to know how to counter the NB as a previous poster said.
I'm on console-mostly PVP..V16 magika sorc and yeah-yeah on magelight and detect pots... but man... I really had very little to work with when the group of 7 NB's running shield breaker, bat swarm and steel tornado targeted me last night. I don't have a problem dying, or L2P...I'd just love to not feel like bait. Is that scenario impossible? It's all I encountered this past weekend.2 -
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✭✭✭Nope, I wish there were more Nightblades. They're the easiest class for me to kill. It's basically free AP lol0 -
AOECAPS✭✭✭✭Not tired of them exactly only the groups of 5 to 10 that spam ambush one person or abuse Camo Hunter. ZOs needs to buff other classes instead of dropping the nerf hammer on them playing my NB is 1000 times easier than my stamplar1
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭I in no way meant for this to seem like a nerf thread. that isn't what i was talking about i didn't even mention a specific reason. other then there seem to be more nightblades in pvp then any other class. i'm in general just tired of seeing nightblades in pvp especially in the imperial city sewers. i would just like to fight another class for a change i mean i get to at times but not very often. win or loose fighting the same class nbs all the time gets boring. And if it's because of specific reasons nightblades are the mosted like class. well i would say zenimax needs to do something about this and spice up the other classes by adding things to them or changing something with them. so people would also want to play them classes again. so there will be a balance in the game of classes.
If you spend the majority of your time in IC, it's likely, unless you're in Arena District, that you'll see a lot of NBs. If you're up top, you'll see more of the other classes. NBs are, like it or not, the class best suited for ganking. IC is smaller, thus easier to move though. It has more spawn points, that are not subject to being taken over, and it has a lot of PVE players in smallers groups, which make the best prey for gankers. IC is currently set up in a manner that supports small scale encounters and thus ganking.
Once ZOS updates IC to allow for districts to taken over, giving players more reason to wage large scale battles you'll see more classes represented in IC. Class diversity is seen most often in large groups. If you're not going to were the large group action is, chances are you'll see more NBs.1 -
dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Less tired of "insert any class here" then I am of unlimited CC when immunity either is to short or simply does not work it all. There will always be a FOTM class/build. Fix basic mechanics first and these classes become less of a rally point for complaints0
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vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Honestly, I play whatever class I want.
Nightblades, do not bother me.
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am always happy to see a nightblade in PvP.
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...its the ones I don't see that worry me...
On a more serious note. yeah, they live by the gank, die without the gank. Which isn't a fun way to PvP... effective for them, maybe, but not fun. Not even for the nightblade gankers themselves. But even with all that, I got more nightblade kills then of any other class... so... I reckon the stories of their invincibility are somewhat exaggerated.
Oh, and my main is a nightblade too. PvPing as archer, usually. Since I find the way of the gank... not fun. Not even when I win. And half the time I try, I loose despite all attempts at being ganky. Again, I reckon the stories of nightblade OP-ness are somewhat exaggerated0 -
Hope499✭✭✭✭Fear, ambush, fear, fear, fear, friends come, dead.
thats 80% of my pvpTripped over my friends bra.....
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..she is always setting booby traps!1 -
Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
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Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You know what I don't understand either?
When players defend one class like a Nightblade/Sorc, and dismiss any potential improvements to (improve the game overall) other classes such as Templar's and Magicka DKs, who're realistically at a disadvantage compared to the Nightblade and Sorc.
I miss seeing other Templar's in PvP and it's pretty rare to see them run solo, that's why I continue to stick with them no matter what.Edited by Molag_Crow on January 18, 2016 3:25PM--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭Holycannoli wrote: »RatedChaotic wrote: »No. Most follow online glass cannon builds and are squishy.
sorry for a noob question, but what is the meaning of "glass cannon build"?
High damage builds that are extremely squishy
except in this game high damage also = high healing.
DPS = healing
Nope it makes no sense but that's what you get when you dumb down TES.
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Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, I'm tired of them disappearing.Rest in Peace:
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Stranglehands✭✭✭✭Everyone is a nightblade in pvp because of the gap closer root thing. For anyone not stealthed, all you need to do is hit that active skill button as soon as they're in range and they get locked out of their controls until you connect. Unlike actual CC effects they can't break out of it. So apart from turning invisible and running out of range, your only recourse is to cast your gap closer first, and that turns it into a zergball numbers game really fast. So if you prefer not to be mindlessly zerging (and not meaningfully in control of what's happening on the screen),you are forced to play nightbladeEdited by Stranglehands on January 18, 2016 4:07PM.kcoR gnillaF si noitadnuoF esohw ETIYREP oT0 -
RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭I blame the siege dmg nerf. Siege dmg should be high, so everybody get access to high dmg. Also lack of siege dmg means its easy time for glasscannons now, you can be in front row and stay alive. Also if siege dmg was higher, that would be the main thing to hate, universal, universal I mean, everybody get access to it, we dont need class vs class battles right. This is how we planned it pre PC launch but Zen loves to change their style. Those people who get pissed over PVP, let them hate siege weapons, what they can use themselves, if they choose to do so.
@Sausage They are finally buffing it again at least and I agree the damage nerf was a stupid call. The ONLY complaint I ever heard was because of the cold fire siege weapons and what do they do they nerf everything.PS4 NA
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Autolycus✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, actually. I'm not tired of killing NBs. I thoroughly enjoy taking them out, since my main is a NB and I know pretty much all there is to know about NBs, including how to thwart them in pvp. The fact that everyone and their dog is making a NB and going into Cyro means I don't have to try as hard to get kills. Most NBs are very easy to kill and rely exclusively on cloak to survive. Those of us who know how to actually play a NB tend to have KDRs like 200:20. I'm okay with this - it's easy AP.0 -
clayandaudrey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I have been a nightblade since beta. I was wrecking people when we were bugged and supposedly broken, I wreck people now and I will still be wrecking people after we are nerfed into the ground to quote a whiner.0 -
Autolycus✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love this game (..and am obviously 'soul shriven' so I'm not squeaking anythin' about buffin' or nerfin'!) and would really love to know how to counter the NB as a previous poster said.
I'm on console-mostly PVP..V16 magika sorc and yeah-yeah on magelight and detect pots... but man... I really had very little to work with when the group of 7 NB's running shield breaker, bat swarm and steel tornado targeted me last night. I don't have a problem dying, or L2P...I'd just love to not feel like bait. Is that scenario impossible? It's all I encountered this past weekend.
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Autolycus✭✭✭✭✭
✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »Nope, as having mained a nightblade I know easily how to deal with them.
The easiest and most accessible way is Radiant Magelight. It is what is known in competitive terms as a HARD COUNTER.
Step 1: Laugh at the fail spambush.
Step 2: Destroy it.
Step 3: Profit.
Back in the days, everyone was a DK, then everyone was a Sorc, then everyone was a Temp, now everyone is a NB. War, war never change.
??? never happened and will never happen.
All my friends rolled temp for jesus beam, all I saw was templars with jesus beam and all I heard was "OP OP OP" jesus beam. Some patches later I laughed at them.
Sure...bc people saw death-recap with 20k jesus beam or so and they didn't think about the 3 sek. channel...It doesn't matter which attack you spam. If there are enough people the enemy will die.
Yes, most players will run whatever class have an "oh mi gosh" feature, no matter how it is. They watch streamers and go for the class like Justin Bieber fans. That's normal in any MMO, so whilst I find it silly, it doesn't bother me. I play DK since launch and I love it, will keep playing no matter how many nerfs they throw. That said, the fate of NBs are pretty clear, they will get a nerf due all the yelling. Very sad as the right thing to do would be BUFF all classes AT SAME TIME. The cinematic characters are OP af, why can't we all be OP for epic battles. Nerf = Boring combat.
I'm all for better class balance...but pls don't just buff everyone. The game is already so stupidly easy in pve. Good groups just faceroll everything, which isn't healthy for the game at all...
Whats better class balance? You nerf NB now, they make sure something else gets nerfed in the future, its vicious cycle. I bet Rift is balancing their classes even now after 4 year or so.
I think its minority who whines about class balances, and they are never happy, let them hate siege weapons, at least they are universal, so we dont end up in class vs class battles.
I would just like to point out, that while siege is a critical component to AvA in ESO, giving all of the attention to siege will turn it into siege-vs-siege and not player-vs-player. I don't hate siege, and I will run it when it benefits the group or we have a clear objective in mind, but really I'm here for the pvp. If they took siege away completely, or say added another zone that had no siege, I would not be upset in the least.Edited by Autolycus on January 18, 2016 5:48PM0 -
Sausage✭✭✭✭✭
✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »I blame the siege dmg nerf. Siege dmg should be high, so everybody get access to high dmg. Also lack of siege dmg means its easy time for glasscannons now, you can be in front row and stay alive. Also if siege dmg was higher, that would be the main thing to hate, universal, universal I mean, everybody get access to it, we dont need class vs class battles right. This is how we planned it pre PC launch but Zen loves to change their style. Those people who get pissed over PVP, let them hate siege weapons, what they can use themselves, if they choose to do so.
@Sausage They are finally buffing it again at least and I agree the damage nerf was a stupid call. The ONLY complaint I ever heard was because of the cold fire siege weapons and what do they do they nerf everything.
Exclude siege weapons is indeed stupid call, like if they wanted to make standard game why didnt they do it in first place. Its almost this genre afraids of anything new, new year, same crap.Edited by Sausage on January 18, 2016 6:12PM0
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