Wow. Just wow. Imperial City...

Molag_Crow · January 2016

IC Arena in the Arena district is so stupid. hahaha facepalm-plz.jpg?1

I can't believe players are even STILL allowed to drop Caltrops down on the gate, from inside, preventing any enemy from entering because it instantly puts them in combat as they go near the gate to 'Enter'...

As witness from outside the gate (as I've been dueling/1vXing while defending it) we've had about 10-20 of our own guys inside the Arena, farming the bosses for hours on our supposedly "EP-Dominated campaign" while there's been 10-20 yellows and about 10 blues non-stop fighting around the district, so what happens? well, a group of yellows sneak in and completely wipe out the EP group who're on 1k-8k TV stones each from being in there for so long.

Good on them? sure, but as I witnessed this happen, they all managed to lose aggro on the boss (as it had spawned) and went into sneak, then logged out/used 'Get me Unstuck' before the Caltrops wore off, so then I couldn't have a chance at killing any of them for the stones they stole... GG

I doubt it can be fixed in future, since it's a huge AOE radius which kinda has to go through walls.. unfortunately.

Troneon · January 2016

Its a buggy broken exploitable mess...with no balance at all...

Stay away from IC...

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Troneon wrote: »

Its a buggy broken exploitable mess...with no balance at all...

Stay away from IC...

Yeah, definitely... more of a reason to $:\$

Smitch_59 · January 2016

Glad I never bought IC...

Decayed_Inside · January 2016

It's called an invisible potion anyone can use it QQ moar. You instantly lose aggro with them unlike cloak.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

I think that's clever ! Typically the kind of "playing with the mechanics" that I love in IC ;-)

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Molag_Crow · January 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

It's called an invisible potion anyone can use it QQ moar. You instantly lose aggro with them unlike cloak.

You clearly don't understand the problem though. Caltrops on a gate from the inside = radius spreads through the wall & gate = causes us to become stuck in combat = can't enter the arena = technically an exploit. Telling someone to QQ more also clearly shows how passively-aggressive you are.

Decayed_Inside · January 2016

If your guys had kept caltrops on the gate they never could have been ganked. The way I see it you learned a lesson. If you didn't learn then history will repeat itself until you do

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

If your guys had kept caltrops on the gate they never could have been ganked. The way I see it you learned a lesson. If you didn't learn then history will repeat itself until you do

And from what I can see, you can't read. I wasn't inside, I didn't die, there was no lesson to be learned.

Decayed_Inside · January 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

If your guys had kept caltrops on the gate they never could have been ganked. The way I see it you learned a lesson. If you didn't learn then history will repeat itself until you do

And from what I can see, you can't read. I wasn't inside, I didn't die, there was no lesson to be learned.

Yet here you are still QQing. Each and every day

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

If I remember correctly... ZOS said "working as intended" regarding caltrops through the door... it protects the group fighting the mobs inside from being ganked from outside.

Technically, you were the ones who were occupying the location for hours, making it impossible for others to enter, for your own farming / grindind purposes... Just sayin'...

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Cazic · January 2016

This really isn't that big of a deal. As you said, the ability has a huge AOE radius. Things like this happen. It can be annoying, but doesn't reflect the overall experience of IC at all (which is a lot of fun). Maybe your thread title just needs to be more specific.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

If your guys had kept caltrops on the gate they never could have been ganked. The way I see it you learned a lesson. If you didn't learn then history will repeat itself until you do

And from what I can see, you can't read. I wasn't inside, I didn't die, there was no lesson to be learned.

Yet here you are still QQing. Each and every day

I'm flattered that you stalk me each and every day as the hate boils up inside of you like a caged Daedrat.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

If I remember correctly... ZOS said "working as intended" regarding caltrops through the door... it protects the group fighting the mobs inside from being ganked from outside.

Technically, you were the ones who were occupying the location for hours, making it impossible for others to enter, for your own farming / grindind purposes... Just sayin'...

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Your assumption has failed. They were in there for hours without caltrops on the gate, hence the odd blue/yellow entering and trying their luck, only to die by the majority. They're not specifically here to farm the arena as they have their own dominated campaigns for that, like on this server, Yellows have a dominated campaign, blues do, so do we... well, we did have, not anymore though.

anitajoneb17_ESO · January 2016

No, no. My assumption hasn't failed.
You (reds) have been occupying the arena for hours and prevented others from entering (via caltrops or combat, both methods are legit).
Then finally a group manages to beat you... when you come back for revenge / stones, of course they're gone...

What's wrong with all this ? This is combat. Are you frustrated because you lost ? Because they used invisibility or retreat sigils ? All of this is perfectly legit imho...

And what does "dominated campaign" have to do with it ? You think it's unfair for yellows to fight down there if most keeps upstairs are red ?

I think you farmed, lost your loot to enemy players, are frustrated over it and accuse people of cheating and exploiting instead of admitting it was all fun and you lost.

Kind of "déjà vu"...

Darkonflare15 · January 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

IC Arena in the Arena district is so stupid. hahaha

I can't believe players are even STILL allowed to drop Caltrops down on the gate, from inside, preventing any enemy from entering because it instantly puts them in combat as they go near the gate to 'Enter'...

As witness from outside the gate (as I've been dueling/1vXing while defending it) we've had about 10-20 of our own guys inside the Arena, farming the bosses for hours on our supposedly "EP-Dominated campaign" while there's been 10-20 yellows and about 10 blues non-stop fighting around the district, so what happens? well, a group of yellows sneak in and completely wipe out the EP group who're on 1k-8k TV stones each from being in there for so long.

Good on them? sure, but as I witnessed this happen, they all managed to lose aggro on the boss (as it had spawned) and went into sneak, then logged out/used 'Get me Unstuck' before the Caltrops wore off, so then I couldn't have a chance at killing any of them for the stones they stole... GG

I doubt it can be fixed in future, since it's a huge AOE radius which kinda has to go through walls.. unfortunately.

I guessed you never Negate the caltrops while a group is too busy fighting the mobs while you and your group go in and defeat them and take their tel var stones they earn while staying in there for too long.

Malmai · January 2016

This guy joined like 6 months ago and hes top spammer and viner ?

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Decayed_Inside wrote: »

If your guys had kept caltrops on the gate they never could have been ganked. The way I see it you learned a lesson. If you didn't learn then history will repeat itself until you do

And from what I can see, you can't read. I wasn't inside, I didn't die, there was no lesson to be learned.

Yet here you are still QQing. Each and every day

I'm flattered that you stalk me each and every day as the hate boils up inside of you like a caged Daedrat.

Don't feed the trolls @CrowsDescend

Yolokin_Swagonborn · January 2016

The arena district is pathetic. I remember the entire Imperial City being so much bigger in Oblivion. They should have just put more empty space in that district so that you can fight in the arena.

Jura23 · January 2016

Yeah, this is lame.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

No, no. My assumption hasn't failed.
You (reds) have been occupying the arena for hours and prevented others from entering (via caltrops or combat, both methods are legit).
Then finally a group manages to beat you... when you come back for revenge / stones, of course they're gone...

What's wrong with all this ? This is combat. Are you frustrated because you lost ? Because they used invisibility or retreat sigils ? All of this is perfectly legit imho...

And what does "dominated campaign" have to do with it ? You think it's unfair for yellows to fight down there if most keeps upstairs are red ?

I think you farmed, lost your loot to enemy players, are frustrated over it and accuse people of cheating and exploiting instead of admitting it was all fun and you lost.

Kind of "déjà vu"...

You've failed to read what I've typed. I'm starting to genuinely wonder if I'm typing in Chinese or something.

I DID NOT die and lose any stones. So why do you assume that I've been frustrated and "came back to for revenge"?

I WAS NOT in the arena, I was outside, watching my own team members being killed and I couldn't help them because of Caltrops on the gate.

You "think" wrong, as I weren't farming, I was purely in the Arena district to engage in the big PvP battles near our respawn points.

I didn't accuse anyone of cheating, I said caltrops going through a wall (in general) is kind of an exploit in itself.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Malmai wrote: »

This guy joined like 6 months ago and hes top spammer and viner ?

"Spam" -

Definition: To send the same message indiscriminately to (a large numbers of Internet users).

Also, what's a "viner"? does it have something to do with generic vines? excuse me, as I don't associate with such social media 'sheeple-trends.'

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

IC Arena in the Arena district is so stupid. hahaha

I can't believe players are even STILL allowed to drop Caltrops down on the gate, from inside, preventing any enemy from entering because it instantly puts them in combat as they go near the gate to 'Enter'...

As witness from outside the gate (as I've been dueling/1vXing while defending it) we've had about 10-20 of our own guys inside the Arena, farming the bosses for hours on our supposedly "EP-Dominated campaign" while there's been 10-20 yellows and about 10 blues non-stop fighting around the district, so what happens? well, a group of yellows sneak in and completely wipe out the EP group who're on 1k-8k TV stones each from being in there for so long.

Good on them? sure, but as I witnessed this happen, they all managed to lose aggro on the boss (as it had spawned) and went into sneak, then logged out/used 'Get me Unstuck' before the Caltrops wore off, so then I couldn't have a chance at killing any of them for the stones they stole... GG

I doubt it can be fixed in future, since it's a huge AOE radius which kinda has to go through walls.. unfortunately.

I guessed you never Negate the caltrops while a group is too busy fighting the mobs while you and your group go in and defeat them and take their tel var stones they earn while staying in there for too long.

you and your group go in and defeat them....

I was alone, I weren't with a group.

I might have to actually write my whole in-game life story in extreme detail the next time I make a topic.

Vangy · January 2016

Uhm isn't the door into arena district a kind of like a grilled gate? Technically thrown caltrops would go through yes? And personally I've never had a problem with arena district. Negate for caltrops and one guy on duty with magelight 24/7 during at gate during our arena run. Also bank regularly in case of something going wrong. I mean it is war. And there are faaaaaar more pressing issues in this game ranging from Class balance to broken pvp to worry about a little caltrops leaking through a metal gate with grills lol. However, I do agree that no one should be able to keep anyone out of arena district with any skill such as caltrops or mines etc etc. If your inside farming, getting ganked should always be a possibility! Cos everyone loves gankers yes?

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Vangy wrote: »

Uhm isn't the door into arena district a kind of like a grilled gate? Technically thrown caltrops would go through yes? And personally I've never had a problem with arena district. Negate for caltrops and one guy on duty with magelight 24/7 during at gate during our arena run. Also bank regularly in case of something going wrong. I mean it is war. And there are faaaaaar more pressing issues in this game ranging from Class balance to broken pvp to worry about a little caltrops leaking through a metal gate with grills lol.

I know what you mean, there's far more worse issues but I didn't lose any stones, that wasn't the situation... uhhh anyway never mind.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]

Stanko · January 2016

When I got the Arena Gladiator achievement, it was after two weeks of soloing the Arena and luring enemy players into the arena so that I could get a chance at killing blow. The Arena is not meant for "farming". It's an achievement for kills.

There are so many other places in the game to farm, why screw up the one location in IC (and perhaps the entire game) that is somewhat intended for dueling?

As for caltrops on the gate, it totally defeats the purpose of the Arena. Why prevent enemy players from entering, when you want them to enter and give you a chance at a ridiculously hard achievement?

MaxwellC · January 2016

@CrowsDescend
If you go in stealth mode and stay out of the AoE while slowing inching towards the gate you can get into it.

Alucardo · January 2016

As a PVPer who doesn't care about stones (anymore now I've got my poly

) I love IC, to an extent. It's PVP without running across Cyrodiil or worrying about siege. I love that.
I'm not a fan of stealth gameplay, and IC seems to promote that, so that's a downvote in my books, but other than that it has a lot of potential. If you drop into a district and find an AvAvA it's probably going to be the most fun you've ever had in PVP. Once they revamp the districts and make them capturable, it's going to be even better. It really does need some objectives.
It sounds like they wanted to develop one of the ideas I brought up a while ago too; you earn more TV stones if your alliance holds ownership of the district. If that gets implemented, I'm never leaving.