Between these two races...

SevenKingdoms
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If you were going to create a new PvP character, and these were the only two races, which passive set would you prefer?

Let's say it's for a stamina-based, 2H DK. I'm so sorry. This was supposed to say "stamina-based." Everyone seemed to make sense of it, though. Thank you.
Edited by SevenKingdoms on January 17, 2016 12:20AM

Between these two races... 74 votes

Imperial
81%
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Nord
18%
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  • DannyLV702
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    Imperial
    I don't think a nord is ever a choice on a serious build. Imperial is the best all around
  • leepalmer95
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    Imperial is also a character that will let you switch between magicka and stamina build.

    Nord is useless.
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  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    Imperial is the P2W race its passives are amazing compared to nord.
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  • Minsc
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    Magicka?? -based 2H? Are you planning on using any 2H abilities at all ?
    Edited by Minsc on January 16, 2016 8:39AM
  • Shunravi
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    Minsc wrote: »
    Magicka?? -based 2H? Are you planning on using any 2H abilities at all ?

    I wouldn't think so, why?
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  • Minsc
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    Just asking him to clarify what he actually wants to do , in case he has in his mind some sort of a strange hybrid build ( he is a new player as also seen from some of his other threads)
    Edited by Minsc on January 16, 2016 9:23AM
  • Alorier
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    Oi stop the Nord bashing , see your all be rushing to Change to nord if the race changes come in
  • phillyproduct
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    Whats a magic 2h build im confused
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  • Heindrich
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    None of these. Learn basic game mechanics. Hybrid builds are basically useless and it sounds like u wanna play a Magicka character, but 2H'er is not a Magicka-based weapon and neither of the 2 races mentioned have any Magicka bonuses.

    Of course if you're a roleplayer and don't care about performance at all, then just choose and do whatever you enjoy the most. But then just accept u'll get rekt 99% of the time in PvP.

  • Farorin
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    Nord is only a good choice if you prefer the lore, or want to play intentionally handicapped.

    It is never a good choice when it comes to the criteria of making a strong and efficient build though.

    The same could be said for Argonians.
  • Draxys
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    ah, someone else shares in my theorycrafting ideas for 2H magicka DK. I'm trying to figure all the gear out right now.

    And yea, nords are not nearly as good as basically anything else
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  • Draxys
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    Farorin wrote: »
    Nord is only a good choice if you prefer the lore, or want to play intentionally handicapped.

    It is never a good choice when it comes to the criteria of making a strong and efficient build though.

    The same could be said for Argonians.

    Not exactly, argonians have uses in niche builds. Nords, not so much
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  • Draxys
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    Heindrich wrote: »
    None of these. Learn basic game mechanics. Hybrid builds are basically useless and it sounds like u wanna play a Magicka character, but 2H'er is not a Magicka-based weapon and neither of the 2 races mentioned have any Magicka bonuses.

    Of course if you're a roleplayer and don't care about performance at all, then just choose and do whatever you enjoy the most. But then just accept u'll get rekt 99% of the time in PvP.

    Broaden your mind. Doesn't necessarily need to be an actual hybrid build if they're using it for the gap closer. Magicka DKs have to get it from one of two places, one is more defensive, one is more offensive.
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  • Heindrich
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    Draxys wrote: »
    Heindrich wrote: »
    None of these. Learn basic game mechanics. Hybrid builds are basically useless and it sounds like u wanna play a Magicka character, but 2H'er is not a Magicka-based weapon and neither of the 2 races mentioned have any Magicka bonuses.

    Of course if you're a roleplayer and don't care about performance at all, then just choose and do whatever you enjoy the most. But then just accept u'll get rekt 99% of the time in PvP.

    Broaden your mind. Doesn't necessarily need to be an actual hybrid build if they're using it for the gap closer. Magicka DKs have to get it from one of two places, one is more defensive, one is more offensive.

    You are giving OP the benefit of a LOT of doubt. :p

    That question does not strike me as from somebody who has thought through his build philosophy and only plans to use 2H'er for a gap closer. I'm not bashing him, just giving him honest advice.

    It is irresponsible to tell him "play whatever you like" without providing basic information. He even says he plan to PvP. Can you imagine how much pain he is gonna suffer in Cyrodil with a hybrid DK build? I am the one helping him so he doesn't post here a few weeks later asking for nerfs to C.Frags, Wrecking Blow, Cloak, etc etc
  • Brrrofski
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    Whats a magic 2h build im confused

    They wouldn't use the 2h sword.

    There's a passive in the two handed line which increases damage with a 2 handed sword equipped. This applies to everything on that bar. Even magica abilities.

    Last slot is was the best way to get abilities to hit the hardest. I now belive using dual wield (has the same passive) is stronger again.

    It HAS to be swords. Axes, maces and daggers give different benefits. The additional damage from swords is what people use.

    I go dual wield on my magica nightblade and magica templar for the additional damage as I'm usually in melee range so no huge need for a staff. I'm inferno staff on my sorc as it's mainly for running dungeons so it's a more consistent dps, I play at rabge and I gain ultimate easier.

    Dual wield does give you and additional set item slot too
    Edited by Brrrofski on January 16, 2016 11:06AM
  • TheNephilimCrow
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    Honestly, I am working on a Hybrid build. I've field tested it in Non-Vet PvP and it does surprisingly well. Once I do a few more tests, I'll post the build. It's for a Templar, though.


    Why? Cause I love challenges and want to be one of the first ones to build a character in a way that people say is "basically useless" and have it perform well. :smiley:

    That goes for the "useless" class, Templar.
    Edited by TheNephilimCrow on January 17, 2016 2:00PM
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  • Stannum
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    Why do you think imperial race is extrapaid?
  • Maotti
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    Nord
    All this Nordbashing makes me sad.
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  • TheDracojan
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    Nord
    Imperial gets max health and max stamina. Also health restored on hit.
    Nord gets health regeneration, max health and cold resistance. Also reduced damage taken.
    The weapon experience doesn't really matter, we assume you're maxed out in pvp.

    My take on this is that the imperial will survive if out of nowhere a giant demon eating dragon comes out and tries to one shot you.
    The nord on the other hand will be more resilient in longer fights, which is what you need in pvp. The fights will be relentless and it doesn't matter how much health you have as long as your recovery is top notch. You'll regen more health than imperials will gain on hit. Also there's that cold resistance to protect you from those pesky mages that want to slow you down or freeze you. You'll be a walking tanking war machine, regardless of weapon.
    The imperial loses in the regen department, but gains in the stamina department.
    So if you want stamina, go with the old imperium. If you want to fight 24/7 hacking, slashing and bashing, then go nord!

    Edit: with a nord dragonknight you can make a build so focused on regen that you'll be the envy of all healers. Just put some dots on them enemies and regen faster than they damage you.
    Edited by TheDracojan on January 17, 2016 10:13PM
  • joleda4ub17_ESO
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    Nord
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  • Lucky28
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    I'd say nord. All their passives are pretty useful as opposed to Imperial which only has 2. you said you where going magicka, so i assume you won't be using many melee attacks to make use of the red diamond passive and no one really cares about the weapon passive.

    Both are pretty decent tho. Imperial has that nice increase to stamina which is also important in PvP due to all the CC.
    Edited by Lucky28 on January 17, 2016 11:37PM
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  • Zinaroth
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    Nords have the second worst racial package FOR ANY BUILD in the game, only exceeded by Argonians.
  • NTclaymore
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    All the stuff about Argonians being the worst.. Nords are damn close to worse. If not worse. Unlike Argonian nords got nothing special about them. Nothing. Argonians you can atleast say "swiming speed" or "lizard looks" Nords are just a human with bad stats. Never pick Nord ever.
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  • SemiD4rkness
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  • Xvorg
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    Honestly, I am working on a Hybrid build. I've field tested it in Non-Vet PvP and it does surprisingly well. Once I do a few more tests, I'll post the build. It's for a Templar, though.


    Why? Cause I love challenges and want to be one of the first ones to build a character in a way that people say is "basically useless" and have it perform well. :smiley:

    That goes for the "useless" class, Templar.

    hmm, I've considered a 2h templar with punct strikes as spammable, but I cannot figure out the atributes, neither the gear.
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