Question about Divines & Crit Damage %

Kammakazi · January 2016

Okay so the base Crit Damage % is 50%

Is the Shadow (12%) a multiplicative bonus or additive? Now let's say I have 4x Divines at 7.5% does that apply before or after the multiplicative/additive bonus to the base Crit Damage?

If Multiplicative and Divines applies before:

12 * .30 = 15.6
50 * .156 = 57.8%
57.8% Crit Damage

If Multiplicative and Divines applies after:

50 * .12 = 56
56 * .30 = 72.8%
72.8% Crit Damage

If Additive and Divines applies before:

12 * .30 = 15.6
50 + 15.6 = 65.6%
65.6% Crit Damage

If Additive and Divines applies after:

50 + 12 = 62
62 * .30 = 80.6%
80.6% Crit Damage

Also, how about Elfborn & Precise Strikes? Are they additive or multiplicative?

Jsmalls · January 2016

Id also like to know about this as well.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Pretty sure everything is additive.

The shadow and divines is multiplied first then added to your base.

So your 3rd option ^^

Septimus_Magna · January 2016

Im pretty sure crit dmg modifier works additive.

So base crit dmg mod is 50%
Shadow mundus adds 12%
Mundus value is increased by 30% (4 x 7,5% from Divines)

The total crit dmg modifier would be: 50% + (12% x 1,30) = 50% + 15,6% = 65,6%

Elfborn/Precise Strike also works additive if Im not mistaken.
For example, if you add 5% Elfborn/Precise Strike your total crit dmg modifier would be:

50% + (12% x 1,30) + 5% = 70,6%

If a basic attack deal 8,5k dmg
With normal crit modifier (50%) it would deal 8,5k x 1,50 = 12,75k crit dmg
With increased crit dmg modifier (70,6%) it would deal 8,5k x 1,706 = 14,5k crit dmg

Nifty2g · January 2016

@Asayre this is for you

starkerealm · January 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Im pretty sure crit dmg modifier works additive.

So base crit dmg mod is 50%
Shadow mundus adds 12%
Mundus value is increased by 30% (4 x 7,5% from Divines)

The total crit dmg modifier would be: 50% + (12% x 1,30) = 50% + 15,6% = 65,6%

Elfborn/Precise Strike also works additive if Im not mistaken.
For example, if you add 5% Elfborn/Precise Strike your total crit dmg modifier would be:

50% + (12% x 1,30) + 5% = 70,6%

If a basic attack deal 8,5k dmg
With normal crit modifier (50%) it would deal 8,5k x 1,50 = 12,75k crit dmg
With increased crit dmg modifier (70,6%) it would deal 8,5k x 1,706 = 14,5k crit dmg

I think this is correct. Or at least it meshes with what I observed when I was testing divines. I don't remember specifically checking crit damage modifiers, though. Only crit chance.

GreenSoup2HoT · January 2016

kammi..

cp passives are additive.

so is shadow mundus.

better to use impen tho. mitigating 21% crit damage with 7 impen is better then 6% more damage from shadow mundus with divines.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

kammi..

cp passives are additive.

so is shadow mundus.

better to use impen tho. mitigating 21% crit damage with 7 impen is better then 6% more damage from shadow mundus with divines.

Isn't a gold impen 3.7% crit mitigation?

Asayre · January 2016

I agree with @Septimus_Magna, everything is additive and divines is applied after. I use the following formula for calculating my crit multiplier

Elfborn_real is needed because the tooltip value of Elfborn is rounded but the game uses the non-rounded value. Anyway, the following can be used for Elfborn_real. Precise Strikes and Elfborn are interhangable.

Finally, skills covers things like Piercing Spear passive (for Templars), Hemorrhage (for Nightblades), Trap Beast and Aggressive Warhorn.