S+B: Does defensive posture reflect Bow projectiles?

Alucardo · January 2016

I could be losing my mind, but I thought this used to work. I've recently started playing my stam sorc again coming from the DK. I know wings reflects poison injection, snipe, etc.. but it doesn't appear the S+B reflect does.
There was an archer on the tower while my group was sieging, so I'm like "No worries guys, I'll go facetank this clown". I got dropped by focus aim, and it was pretty embarrassing.

L2Reflect

Islyn · January 2016

I thought Def Posture DID reflect single projectiles...? It doesn't?

Is that new?

Alucardo · January 2016

Islyn wrote: »

I thought Def Posture DID reflect single projectiles...? It doesn't?

Is that new?

I thought it did too.. basically I thought it reflected whatever scales does, but focus aim and injection went through every time.

imredneckson · January 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

I could be losing my mind, but I thought this used to work. I've recently started playing my stam sorc again coming from the DK. I know wings reflects poison injection, snipe, etc.. but it doesn't appear the S+B reflect does.
There was an archer on the tower while my group was sieging, so I'm like "No worries guys, I'll go facetank this clown". I got dropped by focus aim, and it was pretty embarrassing.

L2Reflect

No it only reflects spell projectiles

Alucardo · January 2016

imredneckson wrote: »

No it only reflects spell projectiles

That's pretty lame, but thanks for the confirmation!

WillhelmBlack · January 2016

Since launch, just spells. Wish it would reflect WB to tbh.

Cinbri · January 2016

As it said it reflect only magical projectiles, however in 1.5 if templar casted Eclipse on sniper and used defensive posture he could reflect snipeshots

danno8 · January 2016

Only DK's have the ability to reflect physical projectiles.

Alucardo · January 2016

Thanks for the replies guys. Haven't picked up S+B reflect in a long time so wasn't sure. Back to the DK it is!

Autolycus · January 2016

Physical projectiles are not reflected, only spell projectiles. Bow attacks will not be reflected, but things like crystal frags, strife, javelin, etc. will be reflected (only a single projectile).

I would really like for it to reflect physical attacks though. Not WB, that doesn't make sense. But snipe would be cool.

Minno · January 2016

Autolycus wrote: »

Physical projectiles are not reflected, only spell projectiles. Bow attacks will not be reflected, but things like crystal frags, strife, javelin, etc. will be reflected (only a single projectile).

I would really like for it to reflect physical attacks though. Not WB, that doesn't make sense. But snipe would be cool.

Tbh, a physical weapon line should reflect back physical projectiles. Only seems fair.

dodgehopper_ESO · January 2016

It is pretty bizarre that defensive posture doesn't work versus arrows, given that is one of the major reasons for using a shield at least in real life. I don't know that it necessarily needs to RE-flect an arrow (that's pretty impossible when you think about it) but at the least it should DE-flect it.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

dodgehopper_ESO · January 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

There is, its called Reflective Scales

leepalmer95 · January 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

There is, its called Reflective Scales

Big difference between a dk's class ability and a weapon skill line available to everyone.

ThePonzzz · January 2016

I'm noticing a lot more people use reflective scales lately too. I'm having hidden blades reflected a ton lately.

dodgehopper_ESO · January 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

There is, its called Reflective Scales

Big difference between a dk's class ability and a weapon skill line available to everyone.

Hey I'm just saying there has been -a- skill out there that does it. I'm in full agreement with you. My Templar Tank character has always been frustrated by the fact I can't reflect projectiles. Like I said I'd be happy with a deflect.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

There is, its called Reflective Scales

Big difference between a dk's class ability and a weapon skill line available to everyone.

Hey I'm just saying there has been -a- skill out there that does it. I'm in full agreement with you. My Templar Tank character has always been frustrated by the fact I can't reflect projectiles. Like I said I'd be happy with a deflect.

At least it reflects meteors

Bazeric · January 2016

Defensive posture is one of my favorite skills (PVP) and I have been using since I equipped SnB.... ....how ever long ago that was now. Like every one has answer, it only reflects spells projectiles.

But to make this a buff thread, I just had an idea for a small buff that fits the nature of this skill. After reading through this it reminds me that I always wished it reflected bows too, but I not going to propose that because that wouldn't ever get added, however my not OP buff is this:

Why not have Physical Single Target Projectiles have reduced damage why DP is applied?

98% of the time I am getting hit with Bow attacks I'm already fighting some magic caster *cough sorc cough* and can't hardly keep it up (got to save it for the ring, 'meteor', or the purple grenade 'Crystal frag') so it's not like adding 8% resistance to physical projectiles is any kind of game breaking *cough gap closers cough* change and it is something that ZOS could say they added a buff instead of a nerf. (since people are starting to think that ZOS looks like a Target store's toy aisle with all the nerfs)

Just a thought.

leepalmer95 · January 2016

Bazeric wrote: »

Defensive posture is one of my favorite skills (PVP) and I have been using since I equipped SnB.... ....how ever long ago that was now. Like every one has answer, it only reflects spells projectiles.

But to make this a buff thread, I just had an idea for a small buff that fits the nature of this skill. After reading through this it reminds me that I always wished it reflected bows too, but I not going to propose that because that wouldn't ever get added, however my not OP buff is this:

Why not have Physical Single Target Projectiles have reduced damage why DP is applied?

98% of the time I am getting hit with Bow attacks I'm already fighting some magic caster *cough sorc cough* and can't hardly keep it up (got to save it for the ring, 'meteor', or the purple grenade 'Crystal frag') so it's not like adding 8% resistance to physical projectiles is any kind of game breaking *cough gap closers cough* change and it is something that ZOS could say they added a buff instead of a nerf. (since people are starting to think that ZOS looks like a Target store's toy aisle with all the nerfs)

Just a thought.

Or just add a 8% projectile resistance total both spell and physical, sick of being sniped and fragged etc... by people i can't even see.

Bazeric · January 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Or just add a 8% projectile resistance total both spell and physical, sick of being sniped and fragged etc... by people i can't even see.

Not sure I fully understand, are you suggesting removing the reflect entirely? In the case of Crystal Frags/spell projectiles they are reflected and as such a bonus resistance would be unnecessary since it wouldn't hit you to begin with. Just to add clarity, I'm not suggesting passive 3/5/8% but active phys res while you have DP applied (latexy looking armor) and it would be removed should a reflect occur requiring you to recast to get the reflect and add res against physical projectiles.

Alucardo · January 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

Same could be said about Healing Ward for Stamina users

DannyLV702 · April 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Suprised there isn't a magicka version that reflects physical projectiles, balance and all that..

Zos doesn't do balance though i guess.

There is, its called Reflective Scales

Big difference between a dk's class ability and a weapon skill line available to everyone.

Hey I'm just saying there has been -a- skill out there that does it. I'm in full agreement with you. My Templar Tank character has always been frustrated by the fact I can't reflect projectiles. Like I said I'd be happy with a deflect.

At least it reflects meteors

Lol

Gilliamtherogue · April 2016

Are you sure about that? I know the morph Absorb Magic only absorbs spell Projectiles, but I've been getting stunned by Defensive Posture (reflect morph) on my Stamblade from Poison Inection lately in Cyrodiil. I'll try and get some video footage soon.

Anti_Virus · April 2016

Alucardo wrote: »

I could be losing my mind, but I thought this used to work. I've recently started playing my stam sorc again coming from the DK. I know wings reflects poison injection, snipe, etc.. but it doesn't appear the S+B reflect does.
There was an archer on the tower while my group was sieging, so I'm like "No worries guys, I'll go facetank this clown". I got dropped by focus aim, and it was pretty embarrassing.

L2Reflect

How did you get killed by Focus Aim?

Johngo0036 · April 2016

Hi all,

Nope it never has reflected ANY stamina based projectiles,

It only reflects magicka based projectiles.

hrothbern · April 2016

In real life combat the prime function of a (real physical) Shield is to protect you against thrown spears and arrows.

So already back at the start of the game, I always found it a kind of weird choice to focus this S&B morph ability on reflecting only Spell projectiles.

But ofc it turns around combat mechanics balance and not real life.

Whereby noted that since the start of the game S&B has become weaker and Stamina projectiles have become stronger !

So I would favor to extend the Defensive Posture morphs with either absorbing or reflecting Physical projectiles as well.

Stannum · April 2016

Minno wrote: »

Tbh, a physical weapon line should reflect back physical projectiles. Only seems fair.

1H&sh allready mitigates all bow dmg well via passive.