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How Should Barber Shop be Paid For?

  • Acrolas
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    Speculation:

    A fair amount of "free" cosmetic change features, split between consumables in the core game and game packs. Works like style motifs, in that you have to have the race and feature lined up. Altmer adornment, Redguard eye color, Breton body shape, etc. Then instead of having to go to some creepy guy in your capital city, you just consume right there and change the feature.

    A few paid features. A Thief's Oath Pack in the crown store that lets you use any skin/eye/hair color, adornment, or other style on any character, with a few exclusive styles and colors. No limit on cosmetic changes. Includes an option to change name or race or gender (pick one) per character, once every 30 days.

    One free name change per character if you're changing three or fewer characters in the name. Maybe you used a diacritic but that's not how you actually pronounce the name and want to move it to another spot in the name. Maybe you want to add hyphens or take them away. Small stuff like that. But if you want to change Merman Muckbuck to Saucy McBoingBoing, I can see that being a paid feature.
    signing off
  • Lenikus
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    Crown Store, Consumable
    "Free"...
    LOL" you guys are dreaming, you know that right?

    It will be 500 Crowns for a 'good-4-ONE' Change ticket.
    ... Mai cave. >:3
  • Resipsa131
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    You know damn well if they have to devote employee work hours its not going to be free. Stop it already. ZOS let me pay to fix my eyes, skin complexion, and facial tattoo because I erroneously thought back in 2014 that face paint would override the pale look of vampirism.
    Edited by Resipsa131 on January 13, 2016 9:31PM
  • Abeille
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    Lenikus wrote: »
    "Free"...
    LOL" you guys are dreaming, you know that right?

    It will be 500 Crowns for a 'good-4-ONE' Change ticket.

    Most likely.

    I wish they would break it in sections, though, and price them differently. I don't feel like changing your war paint should cost the same as changing your race.
    Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.

    Meet my characters:
    Command: Do the thing.

    Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
    Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
    Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
    Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
    Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
    Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
    Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
    Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
    Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
    Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Crown Store, DLC
    After all the whining we've done, do you really expect it to be free? LOL, we'll be LUCKY if they don't slap us with a $10 per use consumable!

    I think a one-time DLC cost of $15 or less would be the best for the players, so we could feel free to use it whenever we want without worries.

    Edited by Emma_Overload on January 13, 2016 9:39PM
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    I don't think you should have to pay to use the barber shop, at least not with real money. Perhaps have an npc you pay with in game gold like FFXIV. Or the face molder in Skyrim.

    Now, race and/or class changes should be a crown store item. Doing either of those should also enable you to reenter the character creator since your character may not look very good after changing their race. But that's just my two cents.
  • Bigevilpeter
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    Free
    paid in ingame gold
  • Nestor
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    Free
    This should not cost anything: Gold, Crowns, Sheckles or what ever.

    I can see putting a cool down timer on it so people are not spamming changes, but why should this cost money because we don't have a good way to see what our character will look like in game while in Chargen?
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • TheValkyn
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    Crown Store, Consumable
    I'm firmly seated in reality. If and when it comes it will most definitely be designed to rip you off.
  • wayfarerx
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    Nestor wrote: »
    This should not cost anything: Gold, Crowns, Sheckles or what ever.

    I can see putting a cool down timer on it so people are not spamming changes, but why should this cost money because we don't have a good way to see what our character will look like in game while in Chargen?

    While I agree with you that we should be able to work around the fact that what-you-see-is-not-exactly-what-you-get in the character creator, I don't think we'll ever get anything for free again in B2P land outside of motifs or mats to grind.

    I just don't want to end up paying for ESO+ and $5 every time I want to change my character's tattoos.
    @wayfarerx - PC / North America / Aldmeri Dominion
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    Free
    Should be free. Should have been in the base game at launch. In a type of game where you are stuck looking at a character for so many hours, why would we not have this options? My character can defeat Molag Bal but shaving is just too difficult to grasp?
    PC/EU DC
  • Mivryna
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    Free
    I think it should have a gold cost, but with Crown Store unlockables, like hair, eye, and skin packs or something.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Free
    Did somebody say free?
    PS4 NA DC
  • Dominoid
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    This will in all probability be available for both an in-game cost like gold or long global cooldown as well as from the crown store to short circuit the cooldown and/or save the gold.
  • Dominoid
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    Umbranox wrote: »
    I think it should have a gold cost, but with Crown Store unlockables, like hair, eye, and skin packs or something.

    This is a good point. The majority of their incomes from something like this is most likely through the crown store sale of custom hair, tattoos, piercings, etc.
  • Holycannoli
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    Free
    It doesn't have to cost a thing. Star Trek Online's tailor (its barbershop) is free unless you're trying to use an outfit you haven't yet bought or are changing the size of your character, in which case there's a ridiculously small fee which makes it still virtually free.
    Edited by Holycannoli on January 14, 2016 12:54AM
  • FilteredRiddle
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    Nikkor wrote: »
    I don't care as long they realize that 90 percent of their community would prefer this prioritzed AHEAD of EVERYTHING mentioned in the year to come.

    DELAY THE DLC

    DELAY HOUSING

    DELAY CRAFTER BAGS

    DELAY COMBAT TEXT

    DELAY THE PTS FOR theives guild

    EVEN DELAY FIXING CYRODILL!!

    THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT!

    JUST FOR F'ING CHRIST SAKE GET THIS MOVED INTO PRIORITY. GET IT DONE and over with NOW so we can fix or change our characters. So we can change race. just PLEASE. I will not re roll more characters. TWO VR16'S is enough grinding. I want to just play the game.
    This guy knows what's up. I literally want nothing more than the ability to change my toon's race. I would spend $20 right freaking now, to change my toon's race.

    Xbox One NA
    The Sentinels of Padomay
    Obsidian Guard (Social with PvX Events)

    Gamers always believe that an epic win is possible and that it's always worth trying, and trying now. Gamers don't sit around.
    - Jane McGonigal
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Crown Store, Consumable
    Just make it as expensive as a horse per use. People will still buy it and hopefully they will get enough money to hire a QA team.
  • Peel_Ya_Cap_517
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    I think it should just be a modest gold cost, like resetting your skills or Champion Points.
    N64 NA EP
  • slumber_sandb16_ESO
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    Free
    Hairstyle, skin colour, facial hair, decorations etc: Free

    Name change, race change, faction change: crown store

    Additional hairstyles, colours, decorations: crown store
  • ListerJMC
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    I can see that they'd obviously want to make money off this, but a lot of me wants to say in-game gold.

    I've seen a few people suggest in-game gold for minor things (change hairstyle/adornments/hair colour) and crowns for major reconstructive surgery. Even a crowns deal where you pay on a per-slider changed basis.

    Honestly though I want to change two of my characters' looks so badly I'd probably pay for a DLC!!! Perhaps that was their plan all along... >:).

    Seriously though I know people are saying there are bigger issues to fix in the game than this, but for a company who said at the start that they understood how important making the perfect character is for players:
    "We have a dedicated team of character artists who have spent a considerable amount of time and energy developing this [character customisation] for the players because we understand how important it is. I think you can really see that dedication when you create a character." - Jared Carr
    It is pretty annoying to have to play as a character that doesn't look how you envision them, with no options to fix it. You said it yourself, guys! It matters to people!
    PC NA & EU || Mammoth Guilds - Victory or Valhalla || Altmer sorcerer main
    "Wood Elves aren't made of wood. Sea Elves aren't made of water. M'aiq still wonders about High Elves."
  • Artjuh90
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    this poll is such b.s. btw it's like asking in a store would you like to pay for this item you picked or do you want it for free, utter bs. ZoS needs the money to keep their service up, if you are so OCD about a look you have to change it more then once it's not ZoS it's fault...
  • old_mufasa
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    Free
    Should of been there from day one.. free I say, free at last!!
  • Brightxdawn
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    Free
    For reals ZM needs to step up their game with this game.
  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Crown Store, Consumable
    Of course everyone is going to say free but lets get real. ZOS will see the revenue potential here and it will be crown store all the way.
    Edited by clayandaudrey_ESO on January 14, 2016 2:43AM
  • ClockworkArc
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    100% should be pay real money per use.

    From a business standpoint, I'd lose faith in them if they didn't understand the opportunity out there. It is a convenience application and so fits in with the theme of the crown store.

    Also, If it was "free" after paid DLC you would just notice min-maxers changing to the most efficient build every update at will. It should be a calculated decision for the player base to change characters and shouldn't be something that happens willy nilly. I do not want to play FOTM Scrolls Online.

    I do like the idea of it being a perk for ESO Plus members. That might actually convince me to subscribe.
  • iamnotweakrwb17_ESO
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    Standard changes should be free or small in game currency
    Additional unlocks via crowns (new hair, textures, whatever) which are account wide.
    Race changes via crowns.
  • acw37162
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    Oh good lord people it's going to cost me cost and cost.

    In particular race and class changes will be the most expensive with appearance items being slightly less.

    They will probably tier it;

    A change everything consumable - most expensive
    A change class - less expensive (nightblade, Templar, Sorc)
    A race change - same as character type
    A appearance change - less then the middle two

    You might also see some type of discount token or if your lucky a free token a month for being a subscriber.

    While I am very excited for this the end result will be cookie cutter mass changes to whatever is the most overpowered class with each update. IE instead of 70% night blades for this patch it would be 85.

    Still excited though to go all Kahiit.

    EDIT

    At the time I posted this 111 people voted free, 111 people are delusional.

    This will quickly become a primary revenue source just like re-spec tokens on DCUO.
    Edited by acw37162 on January 14, 2016 3:20AM
  • timidobserver
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    Free
    I remember a statement somewhere along the lines of new game systems would be free and new content would cost.
    V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
    V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
    V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
    V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
    V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)

  • Lysette
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    Free
    It helps people to stay comfortable with their character. If someone is not comfortable with it, he/she will play less and might not be willing to invest more into this character. So it is in the best interest of ZOS, to make this a free feature.

    Edit: with this said, I would be willing to buy new hairstyles and such from the crown store, but the basic feature of changing my characters appearance should be free.
    Edited by Lysette on January 14, 2016 3:42AM
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