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Erynyes · January 2016

So you guys are all a bunch of zergers complaining about others zerging and lag created by zergs on a zerg campaign, it all make sense now, the circle of life is complete

Hektik_V · January 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose.

So try again.

Aquanova · January 2016

Good to see EP Rollin again! It's been awhile.

BigTone · January 2016

Fruitdog wrote: »

I hate this effing game.

But I LOVE reading the forum salt at work.

Personally I think that you should also be able to be deposed if you lose all three relic keeps. This would at least give another option as opposed to stack everyone in one keep and see who wins the lag slide show.

On another note, everyone zergs. If blue has everything up to bleeks, best believe there will be a zerg(s) going to chalman. If there is a last emp keep, best believe every single available players will be there, friend or not. For the most part I know that the three main guilds I see running on Azura for blue will communicate with each other to avoid being in the same place at the same time. That does not mean that there won't be more than 24 in one spot. Some guilds run multiple groups plus pugs will be pugs. However that all goes out the window when anyone is down to the last emp keep.

I was actually impressed with the coordination of EP two nights ago. Saw Haxus at bleeks, Unru at Ales and another guild at Warden all at the same time, instead of stacking in one place. I'm happy to see that kind of coordination and hope you keep it up, as it makes for much better fights than everyone shitting themselves in bleeks.

Remember:

#allfactionszerg

_Chaos · January 2016

In hindsight, I really wish we wouldn't have waited 20 minutes at Aleswell LM for the dethrone to happen so we could've pewpew'd that much sooner.

Unfortunately, there was no way anything was being done on the map until that dethrone happened, it's literally that simple.
I wouldn't expect my friends to sit through a constant 999+ ping all night, to me that wouldn't be a friend at all. In fact that would be the definition of selfishness to a T.

Let's put the grown up pants back on and leave the snip talking to whoever wins on the battlefield.

Zheg · January 2016

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there

.

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

Hektik_V · January 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

No where did I say we are allies, however, the point you made was refuted and you were provided wrong in your original statement nonetheless.

Secondly, I'll never get that cookie on the grounds that I would never in good knowledge take my group to a last stand emperor keep solely on the fact that the battle for who can ball up harder on flags is not a scenario that I enjoy. If hallow victories of blobbing onto flags while rotating barriers and purges while bar swap is just a memory and CC break is a fallacy, is your idea of PvP then I'm sorry but we don't share the same views.

_Chaos · January 2016

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

If hallow victories of blobbing onto flags while rotating barriers and purges while bar swap is just a memory and CC break is a fallacy, is your idea of PvP then I'm sorry but we don't share the same views.

The real victory is that the other 400 people on the server can PVP again.

Jules · January 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

This holier than thou message you're trying to cram down our throats is hysterical. "PUT AN END TO THE ABSURDITY YOU GUYS WERE CAUSING" - LOL. As if YOUR presence at the very same keep was somehow purely as the white knights of ESO and your ball group didn't contribute to the shjtshow. Who knows who had more numbers - all I know is I could not see the ground in any direction I looked. I could not swap my bar and half our group couldn't even stay in the game as the dethrone went through. You wanna pretend like that's on us for defending a last emp keep then go on your merry way and do it. Even though the true culprit of this nonsense is literally IN THIS THREAD ADMITTING THAT'S WHAT HE DID, which you aligned with and contributed to and you're still somehow finding us at fault.

In case you forgot:

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

PS: You didn't "win" that fight. There was no real victory in that fight and if you wanna believe that then you really must be out of touch with reality. So the fact that you are trying to talk up what you did with comments like "the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie" is literally atrocious.

_Chaos · January 2016

Jules wrote: »

There was no real victory in that fight and if you wanna believe that then you really must be out of touch with reality.

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

The real victory is that the other 400 people on the server can PVP again.

Edit - Can't afford another forum ban. Removed meme.

PosternHouse · January 2016

The only people here being holier than thou are you red guys. Everyone else is conceding that a lot of blue guilds and pug players had to be at Chalman for that dethrone. That's the way it works with literally every emperor on an active campaign but you're acting like it should be different with you. I'm sorry but you don't get any special entitlements here. You just didn't want to get dethroned. I bet 60 bone shards that if you successfully repelled all attempts at dethroning last night, you wouldn't be in this thread having such a hissy fit. You wanted to win, I get it. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. Stop acting like a toddler.

Takllin · January 2016

This is more or less why I've stopped PvPing.

Emperors/Empresses are crowned/dethroned in Azergas one of two ways:
1 - PvDoor
2 - Lagtastic Zergs

This idiotic blaming of each group for playing the objective is stupid. Your all equally guilty of causing lag by playing an objective such as this one.

The posturing is absurd. Get over yourselves.

PosternHouse · January 2016

No one is to blame for the lag other than the developer. Everyone is trying to play the game Zenimax made by the rules they set in place. As much as the "you're all wrong because you're arguing" line is diplomatic, it just isn't the case. People should not have to accept blame for doing something that the other side was doing as well. It's silly. And you're right, the posturing is absurd since it's mostly coming from one red guild.

Leovolao · January 2016

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

This holier than thou message you're trying to cram down our throats is hysterical. "PUT AN END TO THE ABSURDITY YOU GUYS WERE CAUSING" - LOL. As if YOUR presence at the very same keep was somehow purely as the white knights of ESO and your ball group didn't contribute to the shjtshow. Who knows who had more numbers - all I know is I could not see the ground in any direction I looked. I could not swap my bar and half our group couldn't even stay in the game as the dethrone went through. You wanna pretend like that's on us for defending a last emp keep then go on your merry way and do it. Even though the true culprit of this nonsense is literally IN THIS THREAD ADMITTING THAT'S WHAT HE DID, which you aligned with and contributed to and you're still somehow finding us at fault.

In case you forgot:

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

PS: You didn't "win" that fight. There was no real victory in that fight and if you wanna believe that then you really must be out of touch with reality. So the fact that you are trying to talk up what you did with comments like "the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie" is literally atrocious.

I dont know you, but God your posts are getting annoying. You sound like a child expecting people to have a *** time just because they are your friends. The ping was a solid 800 to 1k while we were at aleswell and hordes of ep and dc were fighting at chal. We didn't want to go, but at that point it was either have an awful 20 minutes fight to dethrone or play with terrible ping for the rest of night. How in the world is this so hard to understand?

Joy_Division · January 2016

@ZOS_RichLambert - Can you please look at this thread and see the toxicity in the community your broken game has created? I know you are going to close this thread and give us the same BS about "please keep it repectable blah blah blha" for the 345,634,678,134,332nd time.

It is plain as day we can not be respectable to each other when your company relies on us to police ourselves to make your broken game semi-functional.

REMOVE AOE CAPS PLEASE and take a step in a positive direction that might remove this stupid zergball meta.

How your company can be content to let this stupid mechanic ruin your game and in turn create such bitterness among its community is utterly irresponsible.

Psilent · January 2016

Let me make sure I understand:

1. EP gets organized and crowns an Empress.

2. DC starts up a salt farm to provide Unruh with more salt than he can use in a lifetime.

3. DC then produces another shipment of salt because they had to dethrone an Empress.

4. DC then begins demanding that no faction can crown Emperors/Empress' on Azura's because reasons.

5. DC also demands all scrolls stay where they are to encourage PvP and not demoralize a faction.

Conclusion: DC is only happy if EP has its tri-keeps and can farm EP every night between Chalman farm and Arrius LM.

Right or Wrong?

Jules · January 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

@ZOS_RichLambert - Can you please look at this thread and see the toxicity in the community your broken game has created? I know you are going to close this thread and give us the same BS about "please keep it repectable blah blah blha" for the 345,634,678,134,332nd time.

It is plain as day we can not be respectable to each other when your company relies on us to police ourselves to make your broken game semi-functional.

REMOVE AOE CAPS PLEASE and take a step in a positive direction that might remove this stupid zergball meta.

How your company can be content to let this stupid mechanic ruin your game and in turn create such bitterness among its community is utterly irresponsible.

You're 100% right.

Takllin · January 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

No one is to blame for the lag other than the developer. Everyone is trying to play the game Zenimax made by the rules they set in place. As much as the "you're all wrong because you're arguing" line is diplomatic, it just isn't the case. People should not have to accept blame for doing something that the other side was doing as well. It's silly. And you're right, the posturing is absurd since it's mostly coming from one red guild.

Which is why I'm saying it's equal blame.

I don't blame any of them for playing the game of Cyrodil. It was an Emp dethrone, they are always a lagfest for as long as I can remember.

If they want to start blaming each other, then it becomes equal to all parties involved.

Takllin · January 2016

Psilent wrote: »

Let me make sure I understand:

1. EP gets organized and crowns an Empress.

2. DC starts up a salt farm to provide Unruh with more salt than he can use in a lifetime.

3. DC then produces another shipment of salt because they had to dethrone an Empress.

4. DC then begins demanding that no faction can crown Emperors/Empress' on Azura's because reasons.

5. DC also demands all scrolls stay where they are to encourage PvP and not demoralize a faction.

Conclusion: DC is only happy if EP has its tri-keeps and can farm EP every night between Chalman farm and Arrius LM.

Right or Wrong?

Wrong.

Zheg · January 2016

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

This holier than thou message you're trying to cram down our throats is hysterical. "PUT AN END TO THE ABSURDITY YOU GUYS WERE CAUSING" - LOL. As if YOUR presence at the very same keep was somehow purely as the white knights of ESO and your ball group didn't contribute to the shjtshow. Who knows who had more numbers - all I know is I could not see the ground in any direction I looked. I could not swap my bar and half our group couldn't even stay in the game as the dethrone went through. You wanna pretend like that's on us for defending a last emp keep then go on your merry way and do it. Even though the true culprit of this nonsense is literally IN THIS THREAD ADMITTING THAT'S WHAT HE DID, which you aligned with and contributed to and you're still somehow finding us at fault.

In case you forgot:

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

PS: You didn't "win" that fight. There was no real victory in that fight and if you wanna believe that then you really must be out of touch with reality. So the fact that you are trying to talk up what you did with comments like "the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie" is literally atrocious.

Hey VE, you didn't need to be at my last keep and could have just played in 999+ ping for the next few hours while I held onto my crown. Also, you should let the enemy alliance have a few k more health and their most prominent pvp guild retain an emp because reasons. - the drama queen

You can try and turn this into an anti Daniel thread to distract from how embarrassing you've acted, but no one is going to buy it dear. Daniel wasn't even in full glory mode and was still completely outnumbered. When we did bring our raid and coordinate, I went inside the sea of reds and watched his group on the front door so I could call out when he moved in, and it was a far cry from the obscene numbers you'd like to portray, especially when juxtaposed against the red horde you had with you.

There is no holier than thou in the previous pages of posts, just many many people calling you out on the hypocrisy and BS.

Every emp during primetime is dethroned exactly the way you were, including the two people who dropped campaign to even allow you to be emp. The only thing 'special snowflake' about your emperorship and dethrone was that you immediately felt the need to turn into a child and embarass yourself on the forums. Brava.

PosternHouse · January 2016

Psilent wrote: »

Let me make sure I understand:

1. EP gets organized and crowns an Empress.

2. DC starts up a salt farm to provide Unruh with more salt than he can use in a lifetime.

3. DC then produces another shipment of salt because they had to dethrone an Empress.

4. DC then begins demanding that no faction can crown Emperors/Empress' on Azura's because reasons.

5. DC also demands all scrolls stay where they are to encourage PvP and not demoralize a faction.

Conclusion: DC is only happy if EP has its tri-keeps and can farm EP every night between Chalman farm and Arrius LM.

Right or Wrong?

I am not even sure you could twist this anymore than you already have in order to make it more self/faction-serving.

Firstly, EP's organization did not get it an emperor. As was discussed earlier on this thread, it was captured after organized competition left for the night and then a WHOLE bunch of EP just come out of the woodworks. Second, DC was "salty" (what are you, twelve?) because it had to dethrone an emperor. People were complaining about the lag caused because dethrones attract a lot of players. Third, DC made no such demands for factions to not crown. Fourth, DC actively does not push scrolls when factions have had their arses whooped because people quit for the night when that happens. If not, we would have every scroll every night.

You're so wrong it's ridiculous. Try to be unbiased for a moment.

Hektik_V · January 2016

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

If hallow victories of blobbing onto flags while rotating barriers and purges while bar swap is just a memory and CC break is a fallacy, is your idea of PvP then I'm sorry but we don't share the same views.

The real victory is that the other 400 people on the server can PVP again.

Basically what you've said is, when CN stacks raids by themselves they are ruining PvP. However, when VE and CN stack raids on raids together it is a holy conquest to rid the server of lag being caused by EP sitting in a keep?

PosternHouse · January 2016

Yeah because you just just be allowed to have emperor. That's totally OK. No one on the server could play at all because of that shite.

Takllin · January 2016

Hektik_V wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

If hallow victories of blobbing onto flags while rotating barriers and purges while bar swap is just a memory and CC break is a fallacy, is your idea of PvP then I'm sorry but we don't share the same views.

The real victory is that the other 400 people on the server can PVP again.

Basically what you've said is, when CN stacks raids by themselves they are ruining PvP. However, when VE and CN stack raids on raids together it is a holy conquest to rid the server of lag being caused by EP sitting in a keep?

Different things, even you should know this.

Jules · January 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Hektik_V wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.

You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).

Funny you should mention that. Last cycle when BBQ was emperor I put my group in between your last emperor keep and a yellow Ash to fight the hordes of yellows coming to depose *so we could farm.

So try again.

I fixed it for you. I'm not even sure there's a meme in existence to adequately capture you pretending like haxus is some altruistic ally of VE. The ridiculousness has always been at defcon 5 levels, but I think you just broke poor ol' defcon.

Even AFTER we showed up last night to finish the dethrone, the numbers still looked even (or as even as one could count with the clustereff that you guys insisted on maintaining so jules could hold onto her precious crown for 20 minutes longer), which means you're all ranting that blue stacked up to take out a gigantic emp group that had more, or equal numbers. That's a mighty strong argument you got there .

At least 75% of your entire alliance was in that one keep, and your leg starts twitching because steve said we stacked with blue for all of 10 minutes to take on an entire alliance and put an end to the absurdity you guys were causing, lulz. Even though you always seem to be deluded into thinking you're fighting an entire alliance in each and every engagement, the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie, until then, even though it seems to be some of your members' baseline mode, enough with the hypocrisy and fake victim card.

This holier than thou message you're trying to cram down our throats is hysterical. "PUT AN END TO THE ABSURDITY YOU GUYS WERE CAUSING" - LOL. As if YOUR presence at the very same keep was somehow purely as the white knights of ESO and your ball group didn't contribute to the shjtshow. Who knows who had more numbers - all I know is I could not see the ground in any direction I looked. I could not swap my bar and half our group couldn't even stay in the game as the dethrone went through. You wanna pretend like that's on us for defending a last emp keep then go on your merry way and do it. Even though the true culprit of this nonsense is literally IN THIS THREAD ADMITTING THAT'S WHAT HE DID, which you aligned with and contributed to and you're still somehow finding us at fault.

In case you forgot:

CN_Daniel wrote: »

That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.

Great job all DC guilds.

PS: You didn't "win" that fight. There was no real victory in that fight and if you wanna believe that then you really must be out of touch with reality. So the fact that you are trying to talk up what you did with comments like "the next time 19 haxus members are able to assault a keep housing an emperor + alliance in 999+ ping and win alone, let me know and you'll finally get a cookie" is literally atrocious.

Hey VE, you didn't need to be at my last keep and could have just played in 999+ ping for the next few hours while I held onto my crown. Also, you should let the enemy alliance have a few k more health and their most prominent pvp guild retain an emp because reasons. - the drama queen

You can try and turn this into an anti Daniel thread to distract from how embarrassing you've acted, but no one is going to buy it dear. Daniel wasn't even in full glory mode and was still completely outnumbered. When we did bring our raid and coordinate, I went inside the sea of reds and watched his group on the front door so I could call out when he moved in, and it was a far cry from the obscene numbers you'd like to portray, especially when juxtaposed against the red horde you had with you.

There is no holier than thou in the previous pages of posts, just many many people calling you out on the hypocrisy and BS.

Every emp during primetime is dethroned exactly the way you were, including the two people who dropped campaign to even allow you to be emp. The only thing 'special snowflake' about your emperorship and dethrone was that you immediately felt the need to turn into a child and embarass yourself on the forums. Brava.

This has devolved into you just insulting me and calling me a child whenever I counter any argument you make, so I'm pretty much done. Going forward there will be no more misconceptions that we are friends or that any respect is exchanged whatsoever.

Psilent · January 2016

PosternHouse wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Let me make sure I understand:

1. EP gets organized and crowns an Empress.

2. DC starts up a salt farm to provide Unruh with more salt than he can use in a lifetime.

3. DC then produces another shipment of salt because they had to dethrone an Empress.

4. DC then begins demanding that no faction can crown Emperors/Empress' on Azura's because reasons.

5. DC also demands all scrolls stay where they are to encourage PvP and not demoralize a faction.

Conclusion: DC is only happy if EP has its tri-keeps and can farm EP every night between Chalman farm and Arrius LM.

Right or Wrong?

I am not even sure you could twist this anymore than you already have in order to make it more self/faction-serving.

Firstly, EP's organization did not get it an emperor. As was discussed earlier on this thread, it was captured after organized competition left for the night and then a WHOLE bunch of EP just come out of the woodworks. Second, DC was "salty" (what are you, twelve?) because it had to dethrone an emperor. People were complaining about the lag caused because dethrones attract a lot of players. Third, DC made no such demands for factions to not crown. Fourth, DC actively does not push scrolls when factions have had their arses whooped because people quit for the night when that happens. If not, we would have every scroll every night.

You're so wrong it's ridiculous. Try to be unbiased for a moment.

1. Earlier the VE spokesperson stated DC was calling in zone to stop attacking EP for fear they would be demoralized. What did we have at the time? Our Tri-keeps and scrolls. Nicely contained so DC could start the Chalman farm to Arrius LM the next day.

2. Empress was crowned with 3 bar pop across the board. It was stated DC was more concerned with AD than EP, so they didn't defend Aleswell. Our fault DC didn't defend?

3. In order for latency to occur attacks had to happen. EP was sitting alone in Chalman doing nothing until DC showed up. Why didn't the DC leadership work together to get the most campaign points? VE hits AD scrolls and CN hits EP scrolls. Leave a few scouts to watch Chalman. Trust me, people don't like making 0 AP per hour, EP would eventually try a retake of BRK. Your scouts shout it and you all get to Chalman and 20/20 the sucker while AD defends BRK. Much less lag and now you have all 6 scrolls. Instead DC chose to ball up and EP felt it had to defend with those numbers in Chalman.

bikerangelo · January 2016

Meanwhile, somewhere in a gaming studio in Maryland...

Seriously, this is depressing. No game should create this kind of blatant hostility. You guys need to legitimately take a breather and realize that games aren't as important as friendships, amicable competition and people trying to have fun.
I'm sorry to jump in and put on the mr. rogers "let's all be friends" cardigan, but this forum isn't even constructive and is putting too many people at each other's throats. Everyone just needs to take a break.

Takllin · January 2016

Psilent wrote: »

PosternHouse wrote: »

Psilent wrote: »

Let me make sure I understand:

1. EP gets organized and crowns an Empress.

2. DC starts up a salt farm to provide Unruh with more salt than he can use in a lifetime.

3. DC then produces another shipment of salt because they had to dethrone an Empress.

4. DC then begins demanding that no faction can crown Emperors/Empress' on Azura's because reasons.

5. DC also demands all scrolls stay where they are to encourage PvP and not demoralize a faction.

Conclusion: DC is only happy if EP has its tri-keeps and can farm EP every night between Chalman farm and Arrius LM.

Right or Wrong?

I am not even sure you could twist this anymore than you already have in order to make it more self/faction-serving.

Firstly, EP's organization did not get it an emperor. As was discussed earlier on this thread, it was captured after organized competition left for the night and then a WHOLE bunch of EP just come out of the woodworks. Second, DC was "salty" (what are you, twelve?) because it had to dethrone an emperor. People were complaining about the lag caused because dethrones attract a lot of players. Third, DC made no such demands for factions to not crown. Fourth, DC actively does not push scrolls when factions have had their arses whooped because people quit for the night when that happens. If not, we would have every scroll every night.

You're so wrong it's ridiculous. Try to be unbiased for a moment.

1. Earlier the VE spokesperson stated DC was calling in zone to stop attacking EP for fear they would be demoralized. What did we have at the time? Our Tri-keeps and scrolls. Nicely contained so DC could start the Chalman farm to Arrius LM the next day.

2. Empress was crowned with 3 bar pop across the board. It was stated DC was more concerned with AD than EP, so they didn't defend Aleswell. Our fault DC didn't defend?

3. In order for latency to occur attacks had to happen. EP was sitting alone in Chalman doing nothing until DC showed up. Why didn't the DC leadership work together to get the most campaign points? VE hits AD scrolls and CN hits EP scrolls. Leave a few scouts to watch Chalman. Trust me, people don't like making 0 AP per hour, EP would eventually try a retake of BRK. Your scouts shout it and you all get to Chalman and 20/20 the sucker while AD defends BRK. Much less lag and now you have all 6 scrolls. Instead DC chose to ball up and EP felt it had to defend with those numbers in Chalman.

1. The same thing is done when AD is at that point, so your argument here is invalid. Who's to say EP couldn't push past Arrius during the night/day/afternoon before primetime? Or EP wouldn't be pushed back by others after VE logged off? This is tinfoil hat stuff.

Taking scrolls and tri-keeps is a quick way to kill PvP on any campaign.

2. We all know bar pops mean nothing anymore. EP banded together after anyone capable of providing an adequate defense logged off and crowned Emp. It's not EP's fault DC wasn't on anymore, it's just tacky thing to do and then brag about.

3. We all know what happens when you leave Haxus with an emp throughout the night, especially Jules. She's a very good player behind a great guilld and would have helped flip the map back, negating all work done, and gaining back any points won during that time period. Best way to prevent this from happening is to dethrone her. We also know that the majority of people don't care about the scoreboard.

Zavus · January 2016

Just racking up my daily dose of salt, move along (insert coffee mug)

Ghost-Shot · January 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

This thread is dumb now. Everyone zergs get over it. It's just a game. You play a game of Counter Strike with some friends, you plant the bomb and expect them to come stop you. Otherwise we'd all be RPing at Bruma or something.

Wait, are we still on for the ERP in Bruma tonight?