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Alomar✭✭✭✭✭
Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
Edit:
The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.
Get off your high horse it's dying and is barely able to keep you up. The same kind of lag that happened tonight from an emp dethrone happened the night before from the CN+VE deliberate stacking of 40-60 people in 12-15 instances within a single night. Perhaps the lag is not as long-lasting, yet it is of the same caliber. Btw loved that fall damage death to Bulb's meteor, the irony.Edited by Alomar on January 13, 2016 6:05AMHaxus Council Member
Former Havoc Commander
Former DiE officer
Alomar: 5 Stars - Beast: 3 stars - Kurudin: 5th NA emperor
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PosternHouse✭✭✭✭Yeah, because only blue playesr contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow using their skills never do it, it's only blue. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow? Nah. You'd claim the sky was red if was in your own self-interest.
It's all bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.Edited by PosternHouse on January 13, 2016 6:16AM1 -
Alomar✭✭✭✭✭I've never tagged 100 unique names in one keep until last night.
I will keep the screen shot to remind me it's ok to stack raids going forward.
Apparently NPK has rerolled red and Jules is the GM.
Except you claimed to do so in http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/227976/video-chuck-norris-eso-pvp-121-vs-18/p1 in November. That memory must be going from having to remember those 500 guildie's namesEdited by Alomar on January 13, 2016 6:25AMHaxus Council Member
Former Havoc Commander
Former DiE officer
Alomar: 5 Stars - Beast: 3 stars - Kurudin: 5th NA emperor
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Elong✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue playesr contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow using their skills never do it, it's only blue. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow? Nah. You'd claim the sky was red if was in your own self-interest.
It's all bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
I think you're struggling with the concept of this debate. Go and have a lie down.0 -
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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
Edit:
The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.
Get off your high horse it's dying and is barely able to keep you up. The same kind of lag that happened tonight from an emp dethrone happened the night before from the CN+VE deliberate stacking of 40-60 people in 12-15 instances within a single night. Perhaps the lag is not as long-lasting, yet it is of the same caliber. Btw loved that fall damage death to Bulb's meteor, the irony.
Hey, I'm not the one who has a problem with stacking. I'll point it out every chance I get because you guys get in a tizzy about it whenever you see more than my group in the area. Me, I understand that's how the game works sometimes but if you want to whine and moan about it than yes, I'll bring it up whenever I can. You guys play hypocrites on this all the time, which is why people rag on you about it when they get the chance. Just the other night you stacked up with Dynamic to try to take Roebeck from only us, two guilds versus one (and also Rage showed up). If I'd done that to you I wouldn't have heard the end of it, hell I heard much complaining when you, Dynamic and about 30 EP came to Aleswell to take it from us and CN (stacking is only bad when we do it, right?)
We've never pretended VE is about anything but winning the map. That is what we get online to do. Sometimes we have to stack, sometimes we don't. If we can be on our own that's awesome and we prefer it that way, but we don't pretend like we're alone on the map and that it must always be Us vs Faction. YOU, on the other hand, frequently play the "we never stack and are always outnumbered card", so yeah, you get zero pity or benefit of the doubt. Please, go back to your castle, sit in it with 60 other EP, and complain on the forums about how stacking is wrong and you hate lag.
EDIT: I've never seen a guild have this attitude you guys have. Every guild I've played with or alongside or against always seemed to understand it except you. Even bloody Havoc was more than happy to have VE join forces with them for hard fights. You guys are the only ones who continually complain about it, both in game and on the forums, and yet do it just as much as anyone else.Edited by Satiar on January 13, 2016 6:20AMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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PosternHouse✭✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue playesr contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow using their skills never do it, it's only blue. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow? Nah. You'd claim the sky was red if was in your own self-interest.
It's all bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
I think you're struggling with the concept of this debate. Go and have a lie down.
I understand the concept of this debate very well. You're struggling to admit you and the others arguing your side don't have a feking point. Yeah, guilds stacked. It's because you had emperor. Yeah it was laggy, people were stacked. Red included. You don't have any moral high ground here so stop pretending like you do.Edited by PosternHouse on January 13, 2016 6:19AM1 -
Alomar✭✭✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.Edited by Alomar on January 13, 2016 6:27AMHaxus Council Member
Former Havoc Commander
Former DiE officer
Alomar: 5 Stars - Beast: 3 stars - Kurudin: 5th NA emperor
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✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue playesr contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow using their skills never do it, it's only blue. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow? Nah. You'd claim the sky was red if was in your own self-interest.
It's all bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
I think you're struggling with the concept of this debate. Go and have a lie down.
I understand the concept of this debate very well. You're struggling to admit you and the others arguing your side don't have a feking point. Yeah, guilds stacked. It's because you had emperor. Yeah it was laggy, people were stacked. Red included. You don't have any moral high ground here so stop pretending like you do.
Nope, haven't addressed my point. Lay down.0 -
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✭✭✭All this bickering BS from all sides. That's why I WILL SAVE CYRODIIL!
I challenge the LAG to a duel. I will WIN and SAVE ALL THREE ALLIANCES AT ONCE!3 -
Elong✭✭✭✭✭
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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
Edit:
The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.
Get off your high horse it's dying and is barely able to keep you up. The same kind of lag that happened tonight from an emp dethrone happened the night before from the CN+VE deliberate stacking of 40-60 people in 12-15 instances within a single night. Perhaps the lag is not as long-lasting, yet it is of the same caliber. Btw loved that fall damage death to Bulb's meteor, the irony.
Hey, I'm not the one who has a problem with stacking.
Sometimes we have to stack.
I feel like we're getting somewhere :PEdited by Elong on January 13, 2016 6:26AM1 -
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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
Edit:
The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.
Get off your high horse it's dying and is barely able to keep you up. The same kind of lag that happened tonight from an emp dethrone happened the night before from the CN+VE deliberate stacking of 40-60 people in 12-15 instances within a single night. Perhaps the lag is not as long-lasting, yet it is of the same caliber. Btw loved that fall damage death to Bulb's meteor, the irony.
Hey, I'm not the one who has a problem with stacking.
Sometimes we have to stack.
I feel like we're getting somewhere :P
Moral Victories are not Victories. If I die because I pushed 70-80 EP at Chal I don't get brownie points for going in with only 24 people. You play to the content you are given. I can go weeks without getting into a fight where I want help or backup, but I'm not going to just push into stupid situations because I'm too proud to accept help from my faction.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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PosternHouse✭✭✭✭1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
I don't know if you're talking about total members or group size here, because if you're talking group size that's not a very large fraction lol.2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
Your rationale is irrelevant. The merit of it is irrelevant. Who gives a flying fek about how you moralize your decisions? You stack. Thus you contribute to lag as much as anyone else. You were part of the lag machine at Chalman today for the dethrone.3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
It doesn't matter if it was accidental. It happened. And you had no problem with it. 30-35 is still more than 24.4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
You had emperor. I'm sure you wanted to keep it for forever so you could release 10 videos per day smashing puglets ... but in reality people are going to push for the dethrone. It's like you've never played this game before or something.5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people, arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.
Never's a strong word considering you were stacked today. I don't care how frequent or infrequent it is, you do it. Deal with it and stop being a *** to people for little to no reason. Kthx
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PosternHouse✭✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue playesr contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow using their skills never do it, it's only blue. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow? Nah. You'd claim the sky was red if was in your own self-interest.
It's all bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
I think you're struggling with the concept of this debate. Go and have a lie down.
I understand the concept of this debate very well. You're struggling to admit you and the others arguing your side don't have a feking point. Yeah, guilds stacked. It's because you had emperor. Yeah it was laggy, people were stacked. Red included. You don't have any moral high ground here so stop pretending like you do.
Nope, haven't addressed my point. Lay down.
You didn't have a point. You just said I didn't understand the debate. It was an ad hom. Stop with the bed idioms already, they contribute nothing to the argument you're making that doesn't exist. Arguments have premises and conclusions. You don't have any of that yet.
You're really just typing about how much you don't like stuff that happened. My response: who the fek cares about your feelings?Edited by PosternHouse on January 13, 2016 6:34AM0 -
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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
Edit:
The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.
Get off your high horse it's dying and is barely able to keep you up. The same kind of lag that happened tonight from an emp dethrone happened the night before from the CN+VE deliberate stacking of 40-60 people in 12-15 instances within a single night. Perhaps the lag is not as long-lasting, yet it is of the same caliber. Btw loved that fall damage death to Bulb's meteor, the irony.
Hey, I'm not the one who has a problem with stacking.
Sometimes we have to stack.
I feel like we're getting somewhere :P
Moral Victories are not Victories. If I die because I pushed 70-80 EP at Chal I don't get brownie points for going in with only 24 people. You play to the content you are given. I can go weeks without getting into a fight where I want help or backup, but I'm not going to just push into stupid situations because I'm too proud to accept help from my faction.
Aww I was just joking with you man.
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EP stacks stop being delusional, unless I'm blind and only see a small man in these?PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QSKmYq11c
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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
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The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.
Get off your high horse it's dying and is barely able to keep you up. The same kind of lag that happened tonight from an emp dethrone happened the night before from the CN+VE deliberate stacking of 40-60 people in 12-15 instances within a single night. Perhaps the lag is not as long-lasting, yet it is of the same caliber. Btw loved that fall damage death to Bulb's meteor, the irony.
Hey, I'm not the one who has a problem with stacking. I'll point it out every chance I get because you guys get in a tizzy about it whenever you see more than my group in the area. Me, I understand that's how the game works sometimes but if you want to whine and moan about it than yes, I'll bring it up whenever I can. You guys play hypocrites on this all the time, which is why people rag on you about it when they get the chance. Just the other night you stacked up with Dynamic to try to take Roebeck from only us, two guilds versus one (and also Rage showed up). If I'd done that to you I wouldn't have heard the end of it, hell I heard much complaining when you, Dynamic and about 30 EP came to Aleswell to take it from us and CN (stacking is only bad when we do it, right?)
We've never pretended VE is about anything but winning the map. That is what we get online to do. Sometimes we have to stack, sometimes we don't. If we can be on our own that's awesome and we prefer it that way, but we don't pretend like we're alone on the map and that it must always be Us vs Faction. YOU, on the other hand, frequently play the "we never stack and are always outnumbered card", so yeah, you get zero pity or benefit of the doubt. Please, go back to your castle, sit in it with 60 other EP, and complain on the forums about how stacking is wrong and you hate lag.
EDIT: I've never seen a guild have this attitude you guys have. Every guild I've played with or alongside or against always seemed to understand it except you. Even bloody Havoc was more than happy to have VE join forces with them for hard fights. You guys are the only ones who continually complain about it, both in game and on the forums, and yet do it just as much as anyone else.
See those two highlighted sentences all you clowns? That is called blunt honesty and that is HONORABLE. Not this pseudo video game politics crap. The man logs into the game, gets into a group, and plays to win the map which is what Cyrodiil is about.4 -
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EP stacks stop being delusional, unless I'm blind and only see a small man in these?PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QSKmYq11c
It's been stated many times that DC stacked to dethrone so we could rid this lag today.
Really should have chosen better proof if you were trying to show EP stacking lol. That's like 1 raid and a few pugs maybe. Certainly not enough to demonstrate stacking.
Let me show you how it's done:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM 3 -
Huckdabuck✭✭✭✭✭I don't know about everyone else but I really HATE it when mommy and daddy yell at each other. FFS.....STFU and just play the damn game and enjoy what's actually left to enjoy before this thing dies completely (looking at EVERYONE). Save a few individuals.....who actually gives a flying........
Edit - it's getting pretty damn special ed in hereEdited by Huckdabuck on January 13, 2016 6:43AMTexashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging LagsploitterJessica Folsom wrote:It's a very grey area.1 -
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✭✭Huckdabuck wrote: »I don't know about everyone else but I really HATE it when mommy and daddy yell at each other. FFS.....STFU and just play the damn game and enjoy what's actually left to enjoy before this thing dies completely (looking at EVERYONE). Save a few individuals.....who actually gives a flying........
Edit - it's getting pretty damn special ed in here
I'll take a hit for the team and kill this thread
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Daveheart✭✭✭✭The you zerg and I don't attitude is 100% bullsh. The zerg blinders in this game are ridiculous. Yellow zergs, blue does it, and red does it too. The only part worse than the insistence that "you do it, and I don't" is the fact that emperor is even still a thing in this game.Edited by Daveheart on January 13, 2016 6:52AMDaggerfall Covenant (PC-NA)
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You just posted the exact same thing lol, probably the same amount of people more or less just all balled up in your video
EP stacks stop being delusional, unless I'm blind and only see a small man in these?PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QSKmYq11c
It's been stated many times that DC stacked to dethrone so we could rid this lag today.
Really should have chosen better proof if you were trying to show EP stacking lol. That's like 1 raid and a few pugs maybe. Certainly not enough to demonstrate stacking.
Let me show you how it's done:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM
again im not against it but to say blues do it or yellows but you don't and to provide the whining of teamspeak is just special cupcakes. if you're so against stacking why did EP as a whole provoke it so heavily today then complain that they got zerged down and lost emperor?Edited by Nifty2g on January 13, 2016 6:54AM#MOREORBS0 -
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You just posted the exact same thing lol, probably the same amount of people more or less just all balled up in your video
EP stacks stop being delusional, unless I'm blind and only see a small man in these?PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QSKmYq11c
It's been stated many times that DC stacked to dethrone so we could rid this lag today.
Really should have chosen better proof if you were trying to show EP stacking lol. That's like 1 raid and a few pugs maybe. Certainly not enough to demonstrate stacking.
Let me show you how it's done:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM
again im not against it but to say blues do it or yellows but you don't and to provide the whining of teamspeak is just special cupcakes. if you're so against stacking why did EP as a whole provoke it so heavily today then complain that they got zerged down and lost emperor?
If you think that's the same amount of people then I don't even know what else to say. It's so clearly not that I feel like arguing over it is pointless. I didn't care about the rest of what you said except for the cupcakes part.0 -
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My video
You just posted the exact same thing lol, probably the same amount of people more or less just all balled up in your video
EP stacks stop being delusional, unless I'm blind and only see a small man in these?PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QSKmYq11c
It's been stated many times that DC stacked to dethrone so we could rid this lag today.
Really should have chosen better proof if you were trying to show EP stacking lol. That's like 1 raid and a few pugs maybe. Certainly not enough to demonstrate stacking.
Let me show you how it's done:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM
again im not against it but to say blues do it or yellows but you don't and to provide the whining of teamspeak is just special cupcakes. if you're so against stacking why did EP as a whole provoke it so heavily today then complain that they got zerged down and lost emperor?
If you think that's the same amount of people then I don't even know what else to say. It's so clearly not that I feel like arguing over it is pointless. I didn't care about the rest of what you said except for the cupcakes part.
1: If I showed the whole thing and account for how many were at the front/sides etc there were easily 100+ in this
2: 37 EP (maybe 1 - 5 off)
Your video: from what I counted I got 43 - hard to tell if some of it is EP following and/or DC
special cupcakes is just how delicate and innocent you all act being against zergs saying all you do is small man then showing the woahhhhhh, do you miss half of what's going on in cyrodill and how much EP there actually is? Yesterday on Chal mine right when the emp push started there were at least the same amount in your video (including noticeable Haxus names)
I'm missing your point here honestly. Just admit to it?Edited by Nifty2g on January 13, 2016 7:24AM#MOREORBS1 -
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My video
You just posted the exact same thing lol, probably the same amount of people more or less just all balled up in your video
EP stacks stop being delusional, unless I'm blind and only see a small man in these?PosternHouse wrote: »Yeah, because only blue player contribute to lag by using their skills. All the red and yellow never using their skills never do it either. All the red stacked in Chal tonight? Nah they didn't cause any of that lag, it was only blue. All that yellow down south? Nah.
You're bloody delusional. I've seen you guys stacked with other people too. Why isn't that ever your fault like CN+VE is their fault? Hypocrisy.
1) We're a fraction of the size as both of the guilds mentioned, one is NA's largest hardcore pvp guild and the other is the 3rd in terms of largest groups run on a regular basis.
2) When we end up stacked with friendlies it is situational, such as defending a keep and there is no other place to be. This only happens when there is the number of enemies to merit being there. Which there always is for EP during our often double team.
3) EP does not have the size of guilds nor the amount of Hardcore pvp guilds in this game as DC does. If EP's two largest remaining hardcore pvp guilds stacked it would be Haxus + Dynamic making up an average 30-35 at most. Do the math, which btw never happens deliberately, yet alone 15 times in one night.
4) If you simply read the original statement and have a recollection of VE statements. They claim to avoid CN, try to get rid of them, and fight separately. Yet, on this particular night there was such a large amount of coordinated stacking it was of a higher extreme than ever before.
5) Play the game in AZ, you never see us do that with anyone ever. We stack separately, push separately, and often bypass friendly zergs to push the objective behind it or cut off reinforcements. If you were there you would understand this wasn't happen chance stacking while going through breaches, this was deliberate balling up pre fights with 40-60 people (even open field), arming prox dets together, and pushing the same direction/people together which was done by those who previously claimed to do nothing of the sort.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_QSKmYq11c
It's been stated many times that DC stacked to dethrone so we could rid this lag today.
Really should have chosen better proof if you were trying to show EP stacking lol. That's like 1 raid and a few pugs maybe. Certainly not enough to demonstrate stacking.
Let me show you how it's done:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM
again im not against it but to say blues do it or yellows but you don't and to provide the whining of teamspeak is just special cupcakes. if you're so against stacking why did EP as a whole provoke it so heavily today then complain that they got zerged down and lost emperor?
If you think that's the same amount of people then I don't even know what else to say. It's so clearly not that I feel like arguing over it is pointless. I didn't care about the rest of what you said except for the cupcakes part.
1: 37 EP (maybe 1 - 5 off)
2: If I showed the whole thing and account for how many were at the front/sides etc there were easily 100+ in this
Your video: from what I counted I got 43 - hard to tell if some of it is EP following and/or DC
special cupcakes is just how delicate and innocent you all act being against zergs saying all you do is small man then showing the woahhhhhh, do you miss half of what's going on in cyrodill and how much EP there actually is? Yesterday on Chal mine right when the emp push started there were at least the same amount in your video (including noticeable Haxus names)
I'm missing your point here honestly. Just admit to it?
Red zergs.
Red velvet.
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Just imagine if there were no lag and how much fun zergs would beThis thread is dumb now. Everyone zergs get over it. It's just a game. You play a game of Counter Strike with some friends, you plant the bomb and expect them to come stop you. Otherwise we'd all be RPing at Bruma or something.
I also agree 100% with this post
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