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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
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The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.2 -
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Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
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The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.
You put yourself in a position where either we all log off for the night cuz we can't play, or we dethrone you so we can actually have a raid and enjoy some lag-free fights. You can talk all you want about not stacking but there were between 70 and 80 EP in that keep, and defending it inside the inner like that brought the server to a freaking standstill.
So we slogged in there, and once it was done there were some fun fights. I wont blame you for defending Emp, but you getting bent out of shape because you got dethroned (with a zerg of your own backing you) is just silly. I see you up this quote chain "Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT". I hear a lot from you and others how Haxus doesn't stack. If you hadn't been stacking with your faction, you wouldn't have been stopping the server with unplayable lag.
So maybe trying BEING ABOUT IT before pointing fingers.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Yes, my husband would agree. My point is that you said Haxus was not running a raid. I'm just clarifying that so that I can send my apologies to the nonexistent Haxus raid that did not defend emp at Chal or contribute to the lag which is the sole responsibility of those CN SOBs that broke the game.-
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Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
Like, idk, maybe the person that complains nonstop about large groups causing lag and saying the game can't handle it should "sit down with the holier than thou bs" when she's sitting with the rest of her alliance in her last emp keep while the server is literally brought to its knees for over an hour? You expect a single raid to go siege a keep with an enemy emp + the entire alliance inside, and 500-999 ping the entire time? The number of red inside that keep easily rivaled the blue that ended up there (and ended up there SOLELY because it was clear to everyone with a brain that pvp wouldn't even be possible until the dethrone was finished). Your salt levels are absurd. No other emp in azura's has acted as childish as you are right now, none, including alma - someone you've always have choice words for. I'll let that sink in.
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✭✭✭✭✭I want to see all three factions competitive. I think EP has done a great job of addressing some of their coordination issues and have come back strong. But it is laughable how many EP were in one location tonight at the last emp keep and people are calling CN out. Every faction zergs. Every faction zergs to defend a last emp keep or to overthrow one.
Stop it hypocrites. CN is no more to blame for the lag tonight than Haxus is.
Daniel is being called out for calling out EP for stacking in a depose scenario. This is call out worthy because he'll bring the same numbers to Nikel.
Deny it all you want, we've all seen it. We've seen the videos from the CN perspective. CN gets wiped somewhere, and on comes the white dress and multiple raids. While every faction coincidentally zergs out of circumstance, CN is the only AS guild I am aware of that actually plans it.
So yeah, he's going to get called out.Edited by zyk on January 13, 2016 4:12AM2 -
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Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
Like, idk, maybe the person that complains nonstop about large groups causing lag and saying the game can't handle it should "sit down with the holier than thou bs" when she's sitting with the rest of her alliance in her last emp keep while the server is literally brought to its knees for over an hour? You expect a single raid to go siege a keep with an enemy emp + the entire alliance inside, and 500-999 ping the entire time? The number of red inside that keep easily rivaled the blue that ended up there (and ended up there SOLELY because it was clear to everyone with a brain that pvp wouldn't even be possible until the dethrone was finished). Your salt levels are absurd. No other emp in azura's has acted as childish as you are right now, none, including alma - someone you've always have choice words for. I'll let that sink in.
Again, my presence at a last emp keep AS EMP is pretty understandable. Whatever point you're trying to make is useless and no amount of comparison to Alma Ruma will make it sensible.
PS: Yeah maybe the salt levels are absurd. People told me over and over that VE would do exactly what they did which is push for dethrone. I just remember a conversation a long time ago with Bulb about a Winnie emp and VE not pushing to dethrone friends. And especially not in the conditions that the dethrone happened. Perhaps naively considered myself a friend.Edited by Jules on January 13, 2016 4:20AM0 -
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This is not what I'm saying nor is the main point of my argument
Do you not have basic understanding? You are enforcing server wide lag, and I mean server wide no one could barely play no matter where you were on the map.
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
I'l quote this for you to rereadDisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
Edit:
The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
LOL OK so let me use my BASIC UNDERSTANDING to decipher what you mean here lol
As Empress, I should have abandoned my last emp keep because my presence there was "reinforcing server wide lag" - and yet your presence, although entirely less required and still just as populated, is somehow NOT doing exactly the same? Your arguments are literally embarrassing to read.DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Sounds like every single dethrone for any faction emperor.
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The game is broken and can't handle even a faction having emperor right now.
I'll give you the analysis; once an Alliance gets an Emperor (especially if you get it during off hours of guilds) you're enforcing lag during prime time as it is going to drag every single person AD, DC and EP to the last keep(s) and just bomb the server for at least 1+ hours (or more) as again it is the main objectives on everyone's mind to dethrone an emperor.#MOREORBS1 -
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✭✭Dethroning happens, the lag and stacking as a result happens. The games broken and we all continue to be broken.
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Definitely. It reminds me of when Daniel got his entire zerg meteor spamming in 1.6, because a few EP were doing it. And he was proud of it.Edited by Elong on January 13, 2016 4:24AM0 -
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Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
Like, idk, maybe the person that complains nonstop about large groups causing lag and saying the game can't handle it should "sit down with the holier than thou bs" when she's sitting with the rest of her alliance in her last emp keep while the server is literally brought to its knees for over an hour? You expect a single raid to go siege a keep with an enemy emp + the entire alliance inside, and 500-999 ping the entire time? The number of red inside that keep easily rivaled the blue that ended up there (and ended up there SOLELY because it was clear to everyone with a brain that pvp wouldn't even be possible until the dethrone was finished). Your salt levels are absurd. No other emp in azura's has acted as childish as you are right now, none, including alma - someone you've always have choice words for. I'll let that sink in.
Again, my presence at a last emp keep AS EMP is pretty understandable. Whatever point you're trying to make is useless and no amount of comparison to Alma Ruma will make it sensible.
The point, jules, is that you were inundated with the entire rest of your alliance, but are throwing a tantrum because more than an elite 8 man went to siege the keep that was keeping the campaign at 999+ ping for over an hour. No one is saying the emp shouldn't be at the last emp keep, everyone is saying you shouldn't be flipping out because your opponents brought more than an elite 8 man to take a keep that had the entire red population inside of it.
I've talked to alma more times that I'd care for, and while we don't see eye to eye, I've never seen her throw a tantrum over being dethroned like you are right now. FFS, if you're going to be an EP emp, take a page from meth's book and learn how to chill.Edited by Zheg on January 13, 2016 4:23AM4 -
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Honestly the dethrone was to remove the server wide lag
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
Like, idk, maybe the person that complains nonstop about large groups causing lag and saying the game can't handle it should "sit down with the holier than thou bs" when she's sitting with the rest of her alliance in her last emp keep while the server is literally brought to its knees for over an hour? You expect a single raid to go siege a keep with an enemy emp + the entire alliance inside, and 500-999 ping the entire time? The number of red inside that keep easily rivaled the blue that ended up there (and ended up there SOLELY because it was clear to everyone with a brain that pvp wouldn't even be possible until the dethrone was finished). Your salt levels are absurd. No other emp in azura's has acted as childish as you are right now, none, including alma - someone you've always have choice words for. I'll let that sink in.
PS: Yeah maybe the salt levels are absurd. People told me over and over that VE would do exactly what they did which is push for dethrone. I just remember a conversation a long time ago with Bulb about a Winnie emp and VE not pushing to dethrone friends. And especially not in the conditions that the dethrone happened. Perhaps naively considered myself a friend.Edited by Nifty2g on January 13, 2016 4:34AM#MOREORBS4 -
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✭✭✭✭PS: Yeah maybe the salt levels are absurd. People told me over and over that VE would do exactly what they did which is push for dethrone. I just remember a conversation a long time ago with Bulb about a Winnie emp and VE not pushing to dethrone friends. And especially not in the conditions that the dethrone happened. Perhaps naively considered myself a friend.
MAYBE? Of course we're going to push for dethrone, and if you paid even a little attention to the fight you would have realized that right when our raid started we sat at ales for 15+ minutes, wiped sarenvog at the LM, and were hoping the dethrone would finish itself so the ping would go back to at least the minimum bearable levels again. When it didn't, and we had enough of the constant 999+, we went to chalman to flip the effing keep and put a stop to the ridiculousness. I would never expect a friend to play in 999+ ping for the entire night when the only solution is dethrone so I could hold onto my crown for a little while longer, though apparently that's what you're implying should have happened.
Convos between you and bulb are between you and him, but in what world can anyone imagine winnie coming on the forums and acting this way after a dethrone? Furthermore, the game has degraded from 'a long time ago' and can no longer handle primetime emps. You're welcome to read the first few pages where I said that over and over, was then passively accused of being salty because you're in haxus, and then realize what I said somehow, surprisingly, magically came true - push for dethrone happens, game is literally unplayable for everyone for the entire time, and doesn't go back to normal until it's finished.
So you've never contributed to dethroning a VE emp? Yeah, that's what I thought. Double standards galore from you tonight.
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Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
Like, idk, maybe the person that complains nonstop about large groups causing lag and saying the game can't handle it should "sit down with the holier than thou bs" when she's sitting with the rest of her alliance in her last emp keep while the server is literally brought to its knees for over an hour? You expect a single raid to go siege a keep with an enemy emp + the entire alliance inside, and 500-999 ping the entire time? The number of red inside that keep easily rivaled the blue that ended up there (and ended up there SOLELY because it was clear to everyone with a brain that pvp wouldn't even be possible until the dethrone was finished). Your salt levels are absurd. No other emp in azura's has acted as childish as you are right now, none, including alma - someone you've always have choice words for. I'll let that sink in.
Again, my presence at a last emp keep AS EMP is pretty understandable. Whatever point you're trying to make is useless and no amount of comparison to Alma Ruma will make it sensible.
The point, jules, is that you were inundated with the entire rest of your alliance, but are throwing a tantrum because more than an elite 8 man went to siege the keep that was keeping the campaign at 999+ ping for over an hour. No one is saying the emp shouldn't be at the last emp keep, everyone is saying you shouldn't be flipping out because your opponents brought more than an elite 8 man to take a keep that had the entire red population inside of it.
I've talked to alma more times that I'd care for, and while we don't see eye to eye, I've never seen her throw a tantrum over being dethroned like you are right now. FFS, if you're going to be an EP emp, take a page from meth's book and learn how to chill.
Don't see once where I complained about how many you brought. I understand that there were a lot of EP in the keep, there were plenty of DC in the keep as well and I wouldn't even care if the game would work in those conditions. My complaint was directly to Nifty for pretending that he somehow is immune to the criticisms he's handing out. Which is obviously entirely flawed considering I literally just saw him in a fat zerg of blue. Did I say Nifty, you alone are were zerging and we were not? No. I specifically said "you're there with the rest of us". Meaning: don't act like you are in some way absolved of this. But you can keep taking shots, Zheg. You can also keep insinuating it's temper tantrums and comparing me to people you know I don't like, albeit a sad and cheap attempt at a proper discussion.0 -
Arashiha✭✭✭But in truth, you all do need to stop blaming each other, whether its for someone deciding to stack raids, or spamming meteors.. this game isn't perfect, and people want to do what they want to do.. if Daniel wants to run 5 raids on top of one another this game should of taken that into account (and at the beginning it did) but since it no longer is able to do it.. its not his fault or any other factions fault. Its a game, as long as Daniel and his people have fun doing what they are doing who are we to tell them to do otherwise? stop complaining and calling each other out.. and direct your frustration towards the developers and ask them to fix the game. It should never be on us to do such a thing
Furthermore in truth what Daniel does is a step above what true zerging is.. because by definition Daniel runs an organised force which is not a zerg. That term gets over used and thrown around so much now days its kind of lost all true meaning.Vehemence - Core
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Alright now Jules, go back and read my posts, notice how I say "we".
Because that is the objective to dethrone you? We are encouraging lag, and if you think Chal was bad, I was in Aleswell when you were nightcapping Emp with no resistance and there were at least 150+ EP in Aleswell to the point I stopped taking damage. You also have clips of me being dead cause I crashedIf we all know the game is broken why are we forcing the server to take a beating forcing all factions to the last keep for a dethrone (which is the main objective on everyone's minds) lagging the whole thing out for at least an hour crashing almost everyone during prime time
Why are we making topics and complaining about lag when we know what causes it but then we continue to enforce it.
I'll revert you here Click me
Pretty sure I have plenty of clips with you right in the middle of it at Chalamo bro. So sit down with the holier than thou bs, you right there with all of us.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLYz1r6K_HI
My graphics suck so it doesn't show off the full joy of all the EP
Your argument is invalid. I was asleep when Emp was capped and for 5 hours after. Whereas you are fat in the middle of some 100 man and then 30 minutes later trying to be like "guys why complain about lag when we enforce it" LOL. You really feel that way then do something about it. Like, idk, don't go to a place where you know 100's of people already are. Don't talk about it, BE ABOUT IT.
Like, idk, maybe the person that complains nonstop about large groups causing lag and saying the game can't handle it should "sit down with the holier than thou bs" when she's sitting with the rest of her alliance in her last emp keep while the server is literally brought to its knees for over an hour? You expect a single raid to go siege a keep with an enemy emp + the entire alliance inside, and 500-999 ping the entire time? The number of red inside that keep easily rivaled the blue that ended up there (and ended up there SOLELY because it was clear to everyone with a brain that pvp wouldn't even be possible until the dethrone was finished). Your salt levels are absurd. No other emp in azura's has acted as childish as you are right now, none, including alma - someone you've always have choice words for. I'll let that sink in.
Again, my presence at a last emp keep AS EMP is pretty understandable. Whatever point you're trying to make is useless and no amount of comparison to Alma Ruma will make it sensible.
The point, jules, is that you were inundated with the entire rest of your alliance, but are throwing a tantrum because more than an elite 8 man went to siege the keep that was keeping the campaign at 999+ ping for over an hour. No one is saying the emp shouldn't be at the last emp keep, everyone is saying you shouldn't be flipping out because your opponents brought more than an elite 8 man to take a keep that had the entire red population inside of it.
I've talked to alma more times that I'd care for, and while we don't see eye to eye, I've never seen her throw a tantrum over being dethroned like you are right now. FFS, if you're going to be an EP emp, take a page from meth's book and learn how to chill.
Don't see once where I complained about how many you brought. I understand that there were a lot of EP in the keep, there were plenty of DC in the keep as well and I wouldn't even care if the game would work in those conditions. My complaint was directly to Nifty for pretending that he somehow is immune to the criticisms he's handing out. Which is obviously entirely flawed considering I literally just saw him in a fat zerg of blue. Did I say Nifty, you alone are were zerging and we were not? No. I specifically said "you're there with the rest of us". Meaning: don't act like you are in some way absolved of this. But you can keep taking shots, Zheg. You can also keep insinuating it's temper tantrums and comparing me to people you know I don't like, albeit a sad and cheap attempt at a proper discussion.
I'm saying you (I'm not talking to you specifically so don't take too much offense to this) are enforcing server wide lag, this game honestly can't handle an Emperor on a campaign this active during prime time. It's going to crash and burn. I'm all for PvP and objectives I like to do group stuff solo/small or zerg. I was going solo until the last keep at chal fyi. I'm not saying I'm not causing lag, or neither is DC. I'm saying we all know the cause of it, maybe lets not bring the game to that so we can actually play?
As SOON as you got dethroned the server was fine and calmed down
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PosternHouse✭✭✭✭So if no one's mad about the numbers, why the heck is everyone mad? Is it just because CN_Daniel is proud of the dethrone? I stopped letting what other people thought of themselves or of me bother me when I was a teenager. I hope the rest of us can come around too.1 -
Arashiha✭✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »So if no one's mad about the numbers, why the heck is everyone mad? Is it just because CN_Daniel is proud of the dethrone? I stopped letting what other people thought of themselves or of me bother me when I was a teenager. I hope the rest of us can come around too.
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✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »why the heck is everyone mad?That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.
Great job all DC guilds.
That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.
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✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »So if no one's mad about the numbers, why the heck is everyone mad? Is it just because CN_Daniel is proud of the dethrone? I stopped letting what other people thought of themselves or of me bother me when I was a teenager. I hope the rest of us can come around too.
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✭✭✭✭✭Furthermore in truth what Daniel does is a step above what true zerging is.. because by definition Daniel runs an organised force which is not a zerg. That term gets over used and thrown around so much now days its kind of lost all true meaning.
That is an argument of semantics. Zerg is very general. It basically only means a large group of players in this context. Call it what you will. That is irrelevant.
What is relevant is making the decision to send 48+ players to a single location when we all know the impact it will have on the game. Furthermore, it puts an onus on the defenders to match those numbers.
More often than not, AD guilds ignore CN entirely because we know if/when we defeat him, he'll be back with a larger force -- an escalation that none of us want because the game can't handle it.
CN's reputation is well-earned. If its members do not like that rep, they should encourage their leadership to change this practice and take losses with greater humility.Edited by zyk on January 13, 2016 4:58AM3 -
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✭✭✭Dethroning happens, the lag and stacking as a result happens. The games broken and we all continue to be broken.
But being proud of it is the issue.PosternHouse wrote: »why the heck is everyone mad?That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.
Great job all DC guilds.
That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.
We looked at going to another server (got reports both Had and TF were slow), tried to fight TKO at Aleswell and Ash but 999 ping all the way across the map made that impossible. There was no way to play the game with that nonsense going on
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You're acting like you've been victimized/betrayed and it's just silly. If you can honestly tell me haxus wouldn't push for a dethrone of a VE emp when it's down to the last emp keep, with a straight face, then we can continue talking (this is the point where you go quiet, look side to side, then sink into your chair a little).
The raid waited for 2 full pushes at the dethrone while across the map at ales and was forced to act because clearly the 999+ ping was just going to continue for the rest of the night until it was handled, and guess what, as soon as it was over the game was playable again.
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✭✭PosternHouse wrote: »why the heck is everyone mad?That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.
Great job all DC guilds.
That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.
We tried not to stack with him but the only way the dethrone was happening was if we went to Chal. Ping wasn't going to calm down till the dethrone was over and with Alma and Daniel constantly calling for more people at Chal pugs were not about to stop potatoing into the keep so we went to finish what they couldn't and when it was done the rest of the night was for the most part playable and enjoyable.0 -
Waylander✭✭✭✭Seems like everyone is angry about the mechanics of emperorship leading players to a playstyle we all know is detrimental to the game.
Can't blame an emperor for trying to hold onto the title.
Can't blame the other two factions for wanting to depose an emperor.
The mechanic of emperorship will always result in this scenario unless the dethrone (and possibly reign) of the emperor happens in non peak times.
Can we think of a different emperor mechanic that would be less stressful on the servers?
If the answer is no, then I guess everyone needs to get used to this scenario and can check their emotional baggage before entering any threads dedicated to obtaining or losing emp.
Lowering populations to sizes the servers can handle at maximum capacity may be the only solution ZOS could be trusted to implement.Edited by Waylander on January 13, 2016 5:03AMNocturnal - AD Oceanic PvP Guild
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✭✭Dethroning happens, the lag and stacking as a result happens. The games broken and we all continue to be broken.
But being proud of it is the issue.PosternHouse wrote: »why the heck is everyone mad?That's what is looks like if I stack raids. I'll forget it's OK again.
Great job all DC guilds.
That^ plus the fact that people I consider friends stacked with him even further.
We looked at going to another server (got reports both Had and TF were slow), tried to fight TKO at Aleswell and Ash but 999 ping all the way across the map made that impossible. There was no way to play the game with that nonsense going on
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✭When the forward camp is back, hopefully we will see lesser of this last emp keep last stand. Emp's alliance can break into several medium raids and try to take back multiple emp keep rather than stacking in the last keep. And 2 other alliances would also spread out to def more keeps. Hopefully...Edited by TheDarkShadow on January 13, 2016 5:44AM2