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Treaty mode, or pvp immunity in towns like bruma and others.

  • CavalierPrime
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    Every time I take a friend to 2-man gank in Bruma, we get rolled by 8-10 blues.

    "The blues will always outnumber you" is the only thing in life more certain than death and taxes.
  • Enodoc
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    No
    Not for the entire town. As @RAGUNAnoOne said, there are already plans to add PvP objectives to the towns, such as capture the flag and "murderball", so this would directly conflict with that. However, I could see it being plausible for certain locations within the town; for example, as a bubble around a quest-giver, or in those interiors that some quest-givers are found in (like in Bruma).
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  • LoreRiley
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    No
    Just leave PvPrs then for God's Sake
  • Erdmanski
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    No
    Well I am making this because its annoying trying to farm for exp and some one wanting to make it hard on you to do it.

    I wasn't aware the Cyrodiil was the only place to farm xp in this game. I guess I just wasted my time killing all those zombies, dreughs and saber cats.

  • reften
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    No
    This is a big no, it's pvp, tons of PvE areas to level.

    But, I will say this. Doing the pvp quests are by far the fastest way to level. If I have a ton of inspiration to burn, I just pop an xp potion, and do 5-10 of those quests and get the CPs come rolling in.
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  • NateAssassin
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    Yes!
    Im surprised nobody said l2p to him yet
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  • vamp_emily
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    Yes!
    I got the perfect solution:

    Stay out of Cyro.

    In the beginning, I used to try and get my friend to play PvP. She hated it with a Passion , and only went a few times for just a few minutes to make me happy. I personally thought she was a very good player. Well my friend quit playing after she made Vet 14.

    The point I am trying to make is, you don't need PvP to be at top level or a good fighter. If you really don't like it, then don't go.

    I don't understand what the big problem is, I am in PvP all the time doing quests, and only been attacked maybe 2 times. That is like .000000000001 percent chance that I will be attacked.


    Edit:
    I guess I selected the wrong option , I meant NO
    Edited by vamp_emily on January 12, 2016 1:58PM

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  • robkrush
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    No
    There have been polls about "passive" modes in cyrodiil before. This poll is shaping up a lot like those did. The community doors not want anything like this.
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    The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is.
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  • LostRedden
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    Pretty sure that Bruma isn't going to have pvp enabled
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  • robkrush
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    No
    LostRedden wrote: »
    Pretty sure that Bruma isn't going to have pvp enabled

    Great. The final nail in the coffin for pvp. A safe zone for scrubs to hide in the middle of Cyrodiil. Like the ladders in the sewers. Gank you. Gank you very much.
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    The game's central concept of "PvP in PvP areas and be safe in safe areas" needs to stay the way it is.
    ZOS, 1-12-2016
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    No
    Honestly....the Cyrodil map opportunities need to be exported for PvE only, into a Cyrodil map that only allows PvE progression and exploration specific to one faction.

    This would be my desire as I don't want to take anything away from what those who PvP enjoy.

    This would result in less exp for PvE only Cyrodil but should resolve campaigns filling up for those who want to PvP who don't mind doing PvE while PvP is enabled.


    *All the Keeps and PvP elements would be turned off and blocked so we can go to a keep that may have damage or look perfect which would have a teleport instead of what exists for PvP that requires that keeps be owned. All the PvP stuff would be removed entirely.
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on January 12, 2016 2:28PM
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  • Gilvoth
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    No
    if we make all of eso open world pvp, then yeah i support you in pve safe zone cryodiil.
  • MrDerrikk
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    No
    Glad to see the votes are in the right place :p
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  • JD2013
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    No
    LostRedden wrote: »
    Pretty sure that Bruma isn't going to have pvp enabled

    Bruma does have PVP enabled.

    The Gold Coast of Cyrodiil with Anvil and Kvatch coming with the Dark Brotherhood however will be PVE only.
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  • eliisra
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    No, giving PvP immunity in Cyrodiil removes any level of difficulty and turns a PvP zone into grind zone. It's also going to be 100% abused.

    Almost like giving player dmg immunity in dungeons or trials, so they can get the story and "immersion" without risking to die lol.

    Besides, there's no maxed out, endgame, pimped and superskilled PvP'ers in towns like Bruma or Cheydinhal lol. There's usually no PvP going on there period. You mainly run into(if any) some undergeared lowbie or other clueless PvE'er. They dont want to fight any more than you do. They usually stop attacking and feel all relieved, if you back of.

    Just stay away from completely enemy dominated campaigns, because when there's many of them doing quests, they will suddenly grow major balls and try to kill you for real.
  • Enodoc
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    No
    reften wrote: »
    This is a big no, it's pvp, tons of PvE areas to level.

    But, I will say this. Doing the pvp quests are by far the fastest way to level. If I have a ton of inspiration to burn, I just pop an xp potion, and do 5-10 of those quests and get the CPs come rolling in.
    Which PvP quests? The "Kill X Players" ones?
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  • TX12001rwb17_ESO
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    No
    Strange that I voted no
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    No
    The most fun and challenging things I've done is take my vet charactors, NB, DK, Temp & Socr each through Cyrodiil and pick up all the skyshards, do town quests and clear all the dungeons. It's not that hard, just pick a campaign that's low pop or one your faction controls. I've been killed by enemy players more in one week farming t stones and trophies in IC then in the entire 6 mos or so it took me to get all the quests/shards in Cryodiil for all 5 vr charactors. I'm mainly a PvE'er and I still say PvPers only have 1 and a half zones, (IC really only counts as a half PvP zone), to fight in, leave them have it. If you want the rewards of questing in a PvP zone, then accept the risks or find some other zone to grind in.
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  • Anhedonie
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    No
    I think it's fine as it is, no?
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  • Keep_Door
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    No
    pvp zone= pvp zone plain and simple
  • Kwivur
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    No
    Haven't I killed you before? You were that guy picking flowers and caught a f****** frag, right?
    Well, it would be intersting to see them put up some penitaly for just ganking someone in towns or outright killing someone that does not want to be attacked, now they can make this into a system and add to it for justice, if you did attack back while in a major cyridill town, you can put a bounty on them if they just kill you without you doing anything and this appies to all delves many things they can do here to make it better. I am sorry to say this but I am not good at pvp, I like the allaince war consept and love the imperial city much better for pvp anyways, its better set up for it and you have close spawn points which the allaince war has but they make you if you die by pve forced to go all the way back to the starting place, they need to change some things.

    One thing I think that would help them with lag is shorting down this part of cyridill, making it not as big as it is. Change the alliance zones to just one big zone with you having to do all the work each time the campagn resets making no fort claimed by anyone all emp scores and the scoreboards reset. Emp score also resets if they are crowned once that way no one can just stay on the high boards


    With like pve foes in the forts you have to fight for control of them, and maybe differant types of foes, one fort could contain werewolves, another one daedra or vampires. Then they should add, npc attacks on forts, they will try and claim them, like the imperials that still remain loyal to the empire, they would be given a much greater roll sometimes a necromancer bunch trying to claim a fort for there own dark magics, a lot of unique oppertunities exist for them, they would have to change things shorten the size, of cyridill fix certain areas, change some things, for example they can change it more into a jungle that its supposed to be now I know they have to reduce lag but people have to not spam abilties to were it causes strains on the servers while at the same time they make pvp servers bigger.

    They can't just do this over night it will take them a while but it would make things much better. Another thing to make towns closed off like they did in oblivion and skyrim so this improves preformance they can keep some towns open but like bruma should be closed off and others like coral.

    Penalty? For killing the weak? That is the penalty.. You were weak
  • Corzz
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    No
    by this logic does this mean we can kill PvErs in PvE zones plz
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  • Jusey1
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    Yes!
    Honestly, in my opinion, they should give you the option to be a Neutral player in the war. Which means you can't engage in PvP nor be attacked. It'll be optional for people who wants to explore Cyrodiil and enjoy the PvE content it has but not worry about PvP. This would also allow them to travel through any keep since they are being neutral to all sides and are unable talk with anybody on any of the sides (they'll have their own "neutral" zone system).

    However, by being neutral... As a punishment, you do not gain any experience for your level or skills while in Cyrodiil or at least very little compared to what you would've gotten.
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    No
    It's only fair that while you farm xp , others can farm you for ap. It is a PvP zone after all.

    I would be okay with small blue protection zones on the quest givers though. It's a bit cheap to ganked someone while they are locked in a dialog screen.
  • Jusey1
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    Yes!
    Wollust wrote: »
    Cyrodiil = PvP enabled
    Every other zone = no PvP enabled

    How is that hard to understand?

    I can't speak for some people but at least for myself... I can safely say that I want to freely explore Cyrodiil for the fun of it. It's hard to admire the beauty of Cyrodiil when you are constantly watching your back... This is why I play Elder Scrolls games in the first place is to explore them and it's hard to do so in Cyrodiil due to enemy players always having a nerve to attack players first-hand, even completely ignoring NPCs whom are attacking them. And I really want to see how Zenmiax did Cyrodiil and compared it to Bethesda's Cyrodiil in Oblivion.
  • Hope499
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    No
    I dont pvP much, but even i think that is stupid....

    its a pvp zone....I got all my quests done in Cryodil, everyone else can too.
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  • leepalmer95
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    No
    Jusey1 wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    Cyrodiil = PvP enabled
    Every other zone = no PvP enabled

    How is that hard to understand?

    I can't speak for some people but at least for myself... I can safely say that I want to freely explore Cyrodiil for the fun of it. It's hard to admire the beauty of Cyrodiil when you are constantly watching your back... This is why I play Elder Scrolls games in the first place is to explore them and it's hard to do so in Cyrodiil due to enemy players always having a nerve to attack players first-hand, even completely ignoring NPCs whom are attacking them. And I really want to see how Zenmiax did Cyrodiil and compared it to Bethesda's Cyrodiil in Oblivion.

    Having the nerve to attack players in a pvp zone?

    There is 1 zone for pvp, can't believe you pve players are actually complaining about it, it's not like you have a entire pve game to do.

    Go find an empty campaign and 'explore'
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  • Spacemonkey
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    No
    I want PVP in towns to stay. However I do understand EXACTLY where this is coming from.

    Questing does not fit well at ALL with PvP

    I would LOVE, if the guards in TOWNS were neutral. And that attacking in towns gave you a bounty and sets the guards on you just like in PvE zones, until you LEAVE the town (then bounty resets to 0 or at least starts to go down). Also, if you die in a town with no bounty ffs make respawn IN TOWN.

    What this would do is still enable ganking in towns for those who want.
    Give a tiny bit more security to those just wanting to quest.
    Make it easier for people simply wanting to protect others in towns. (Guard service guilds etc....)
    Give more challenge to PvPers IN towns but also way more incentive as more PvErs will attempt to quest now that it is no longer complete @)#(%*%)# (and mostly that they dont have to spend 15 mins getting back to their quest)

    This ups the incentive to bring more people into the mostly dead towns - by a lot.
    And I do not really see any disadvantage to PvPers, in fact they'll just have more people to kill (at the cost of making it maybe more dangerous for you, but then if that's a problem - you probably shouldnt be ganking - and if you are jumping someone when they are in the middle of listening to a npc - you're kind of a prick to start off with so meh).
    Edited by Spacemonkey on January 12, 2016 5:39PM
  • Digerati
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    No
    i love PvEing in cyrodiil and IC. the mere existence of a peacebear mode for those zones would totally ruin it.

    My solution to mop up all these tears is:

    Segregate the PvP achievements into a separate tab within your achievements page. That way, all your PvEers can fill your achievements bar without ever having to pvp...
  • danno8
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    I liked how Archeage did the "neutral" towns. Loaded them with guards who could do tremendous damage to anyone who instigated a fight.

    It was a fun balance between PvE and PvP. Very satisfying to see a ganker get smeared by a guard, and I am sure the gankers appreciate the challenge of trying to kill others while avoiding the guards.
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