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What is the role of the Imperials during this period?
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As i see the Empire is just a big victim this period, they lost completetly the control of Cyrodil because of the 3 Alliances slaughtering them, and are also getting killed by the Daedric forces inside the imperial city, i wonder how they even managed to survive and make it to the other generations
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Refuse2GrowUp✭✭✭✭✭Q. What is the role of the Imperials during this period?
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✭In a few of the questlines (the Bangkorai one and the WGT quest) you find out that the Imperial leaders have allied themselves with Molag Bal, so that's how they survived.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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✭✭I'm not a big 'lore' type of person, but from the looks of it, when Mannimarco handed the city to Molag Bal, most of Legion switched sides to Molag Bal, although there's still some Imperials left who didn't switch, there's a couple of quests where you help them.0 -
Drakilian✭✭✭I'm not a big 'lore' type of person, but from the looks of it, when Mannimarco handed the city to Molag Bal, most of Legion switched sides to Molag Bal, although there's still some Imperials left who didn't switch, there's a couple of quests where you help them.
They're some of the toughest and most annoying mobs too >:(Just call me Drak0 -
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✭Most imperials are loyal to their current Empress, Clivia Tharn, who is Abnur Tharn's daughter, who was Varen's wife when he was Emporer, and Clivia is loyal to Mannimarco who is loyal to Molag Bal (but secretly plotting behind his back).
Actually, they're all plotting behind eachother's backs.
Basically most Imperials are unknowingly helping Molag Bal via that chain of influence, being told everything regarding the Worm cult, Mannimarco and Clivia helping Molag, etc. is just a lie and propaganda by the other alliances to make them look bad. Some see through this deception for what it is, and some of those still willingly help them - either out of fear that no one can stop them and so they're just playing it safe to survive, or sometimes even out of their own personal greed, trying to exploit it for their own gain, while I'm sure some of the braver ones have integrated into other provinces to get away from them, and maybe even join groups that are trying to stop them.
In the end, for the most part though, when your land is getting torn apart by war on all sides and there's a conspiracy about your leader being in cahoots with a Daedric Prince trying to merge the world with Oblivion, it all seems too overwhelming, and naturally they would want to cling on to hope that all those rumours about the Empress and Mannimarco helping Molag Bal is just propaganda, and that everything is okay, because if it isn't...then they have nothing left. Their land is destroyed, their families and friends are being slaughtered, their leaders have betrayed them, the alliances are closing in and raiding villages and towns and farms and more for their war, false hope is the only thing keeping them going.
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✭Doflamingo wrote: »As i see the Empire is just a big victim this period, they lost completetly the control of Cyrodil because of the 3 Alliances slaughtering them, and are also getting killed by the Daedric forces inside the imperial city, i wonder how they even managed to survive and make it to the other generations
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Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭If you follow the main quest line in the Imperial City DLC you learn that:The empire is torn apart from within as it is infiltrated by Mannimarco's cult. A war -- more like a slaughter -- quickly ensues, and all but 8 imperial soldiers are what remain who are loyal to the original empire. Everyone else is killed who is not loyal to Mannimarco.
The main story in IC is really interesting. Even if you're not that into PvP or GvP (Group of Gankers VS Player as may be the case with IC), it might be worth a sub fee just to check it out, I think it's one of the better main story quests in the game so far in terms of being interesting and well written.Terms & Conditions ["We revoke permission to fictional legal constructs or private/public persons for selling of any private data, censorship, surveillance, personage or conversion as a trespass of law. We prohibit the practice of "procedural law" or corporate statues in place of divine law."]1 -
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✭✭If you follow the main quest line in the Imperial City DLC you learn that:The empire is torn apart from within as it is infiltrated by Mannimarco's cult. A war -- more like a slaughter -- quickly ensues, and all but 8 imperial soldiers are what remain who are loyal to the original empire. Everyone else is killed who is not loyal to Mannimarco.
The main story in IC is really interesting. Even if you're not that into PvP or GvP (Group of Gankers VS Player as may be the case with IC), it might be worth a sub fee just to check it out, I think it's one of the better main story quests in the game so far in terms of being interesting and well written.
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✭✭I'm not a big 'lore' type of person, but from the looks of it, when Mannimarco handed the city to Molag Bal, most of Legion switched sides to Molag Bal, although there's still some Imperials left who didn't switch, there's a couple of quests where you help them.
They're some of the toughest and most annoying mobs too >:(
Bloody oath. Right old pain in the backside.
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You and me both! Still stuck at the darn temple district...I _really_ need to get some guildies with me to do those quests some time... Or find a better guild...
But as has been outlined, the Imperials are in dire straits these days. First they had a civil war when Varen Aquilarios led a uprising against the reachmen - longhouse emperors, then all that new hope they had for a strong and united empire turned into crap because of the soulburst, thanks to Mannimarcos scheming. And with their emperor gone in that event, they stood by what they still had - the "Empress Regent", Clivia Tharn, the Chancellor, her father Abner Tharn, and their lands in Cyrodil. Or course, at that point they had already been completely infiltrated by the worm cult, to the point where Mannimarco pulled all the strings from the shadows. And the soulburst also had a lot of Molag Bals forces come calling... which is what messed up Cyrodil in the first place.
Meanwhile... the other factions firmed their own independence from the empire, and each came to conquer cyrodil for their banner, some in response to the interference of the worm cult in their lands, some in response to imperial incursions to their lands, as imperial forces tried to relciam parts of the old empire, and some just because they are arrogant jerks who think they ought to rule over everyone else by right of birth. You get to see where these reasons grow when you play through the diverse faction stories...
And then there are those imperials who got out before things turned to crap. Who joined some other faction in hopes of someday reclaiming their homeland cyrodil from the worm cult and their stooges.
Oh... and then there are the ones who didn't. Who got killed by mannimarco and his cronies. Some few of which managed to escape coldharbour after their murders, and walk the lands again as vestige... you people playing imperials know who you are...
And we know all too well from the lore that this sad state of affiars will continue for a few centuries yet, until Talos / Tiber Septim appears on the scene in many generations time, rallies the remains of the empire, finds allies, and eventually defeats all the others and re-establishes the imperial rule through conquest and negotiation... but at this point that is still about 250 or so years in the future.0 -
Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭I'm not a big 'lore' type of person, but from the looks of it, when Mannimarco handed the city to Molag Bal, most of Legion switched sides to Molag Bal, although there's still some Imperials left who didn't switch, there's a couple of quests where you help them.
They're some of the toughest and most annoying mobs too >:(
Bloody oath. Right old pain in the backside.
It's true, some Imperials managed to defect as well, which is why you see those small Imperial encampments around Cyrodiil. They saw which way the winds were blowing and got out while they could. They are essentially the most hardcore survivalist you can imagine at this point, living off the land, robbing civilians, doing whatever it takes to survive. Those Imperial Storm mages can mess you up in a hurry if you don't have a lot of CP's invested into elemental resistance or if they catch you off guard.Terms & Conditions ["We revoke permission to fictional legal constructs or private/public persons for selling of any private data, censorship, surveillance, personage or conversion as a trespass of law. We prohibit the practice of "procedural law" or corporate statues in place of divine law."]0 -
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What is the difference between the Colovians you run into while questing who wear all imperial armor, and the actual imperials who work for molag bal?0 -
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@Dantonian_Rarstiana In Reaper's March, or somewhere else? The ones in Reaper's March are from the Legion of the West Weald. Their orders come from General Lavinia Axius, and they are loyal to Empress-Regent Clivia Tharn. But Cilvia is essentially in Mannimarco's pocket. There's also a bunch who defected from the Legion in that zone that are called the Colovian Raiders.Dantonian_Rarstiana wrote: »What is the difference between the Colovians you run into while questing who wear all imperial armor, and the actual imperials who work for molag bal?
The ones in Imperial City who are directly under the control of Molag Bal are Legion Zero. The others in the Imperial City, holed up in the Nobles District Garrison, managed to escape from being conscripted into Legion Zero by the Daedra, and nominally remain loyal to Clivia Tharn, but will accept help from you and the "Provincial Militia" against the Daedra. The same goes for the Imperials guarding the bridges in Cyrodiil. The other Legionaries you find out in Cyrodiil are hostile as they are able to focus on the war rather than the Daedra.
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