Battle Leveling on a lvl 10 Sorc

Molag_Crow · January 2016

It's insane! I listened to people discuss it and say how "OP" it is, and how lower levels are more stronger than v16's now because of the scaling, but to experience it and witness it myself? damn, I didn't realize how OP it is, even without bolt escape, wards, daedric mines, etc etc.

On the laggiest campaign also... lmao

see for yourself

nvm I gave up on my sorc for now!

Ruben · January 2016

Out of the group of 10 of you killing the same guy, I'm sure you did the most damage.

Lvl 10s are OP, Zeni make us VR16 from the start.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Ruben wrote: »

Out of the group of 10 of you killing the same guy, I'm sure you did the most damage.

Lvl 10s are OP, Zeni make us VR16 from the start.

You're judging by one scenario, I'm talking about 1v1/x lmao

And it's the damge and stats, they're insane like 38k magicka, 2k SD, 27k health on a lvl 10, etc.

Ruben · January 2016

And close to 0 passives, no skills from Fighters or Mages Guild, no high level skills...

Maybe there is something special about your account because many times when I find a low level player the fight is over before he can use his third skill.

If I judge by one scenario it's because that's what I saw. Post a 1vX of you winning against 2 or 3 VR16 and I'll judge based on that.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Ruben wrote: »

And close to 0 passives, no skills from Fighters or Mages Guild, no high level skills...

Maybe there is something special about your account because many times when I find a low level player the fight is over before he can use his third skill.

If I judge by one scenario it's because that's what I saw. Post a 1vX of you winning against 2 or 3 VR16 and I'll judge based on that.

Of course I have no passives, I have nothing, it's a fresh char with crazy stats is what I'm basically saying. Of course I'm exaggerating about being OP

Ruben · January 2016

Sure, it's better than a lvl10 outside of Cyrodiil, but it is not "more stronger" than a VR16 by far. They might be kinda useful in a zerg... and that's it.

Try something a bit harder than being one more of a big group, like capturing a resource alone.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Ruben wrote: »

Sure, it's better than a lvl10 outside of Cyrodiil, but it is not "more stronger" than a VR16 by far. They might be kinda useful in a zerg... and that's it.

Try something a bit harder than being one more of a big group, like capturing a resource alone.

I know yeah, I'm trying to find 1v1s and stuff but it's difficult at the moment, and I doubt I can solo a resource with 0 heals or absorbs right now, or AOE lol

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Nvm anyway I got sick of it, I'll admit lmao back on the temp

RatedChaotic · January 2016

Never agreed with battle leveling. I spent the time to level and gear up to compete with the max levels just to have a lower lvl player come out with stats higher than a fully geared and maxed toon. Sorry but imo he should be getting face rolled everytime.

Might aswell remove all levels in pvp. Give everyone fixed 20k heath, have all the same abilities, and everyone hits for the same damage. Theres your balance have fun.

Molag_Crow · January 2016

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Never agreed with battle leveling. I spent the time to level and gear up to compete with the max levels just to have a lower lvl player come out with stats higher than a fully geared and maxed toon. Sorry but imo he should be getting face rolled everytime.

Might aswell remove all levels in pvp. Give everyone fixed 20k heath, have all the same abilities, and everyone hits for the same damage. Theres your balance have fun.

Good idea tbh, especially when they remove vet ranks, but who knows hehe

Brrrofski · January 2016

You're not stronger than a vet 16. It's not OP.

You're like a VR15 without the passives.

A vr16 of your skill and your class would beat you every time

Molag_Crow · January 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

You're not stronger than a vet 16. It's not OP.

You're like a VR15 without the passives.

A vr16 of your skill and your class would beat you every time

I know it's not OP, I said it was an exaggeration. I'm not on my sorc now anyway so you can't see me 1v1 vet 16s on him.

phbell · January 2016

It appears that no one has to earn their skill level now. Battle leveling replaces experience.

ZOS is appealing to the lowest common denominator and ruining the game in the process.

None of this is okay and another reason to avoid PvP.

MrGigglypants · January 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

Out of the group of 10 of you killing the same guy, I'm sure you did the most damage.

Lvl 10s are OP, Zeni make us VR16 from the start.

You're judging by one scenario, I'm talking about 1v1/x lmao

And it's the damge and stats, they're insane like 38k magicka, 2k SD, 27k health on a lvl 10, etc.

That's *** I have almost twice that SD on my v16 toon lol

MrGigglypants · January 2016

RatedChaotic wrote: »

Never agreed with battle leveling. I spent the time to level and gear up to compete with the max levels just to have a lower lvl player come out with stats higher than a fully geared and maxed toon. Sorry but imo he should be getting face rolled everytime.

Might aswell remove all levels in pvp. Give everyone fixed 20k heath, have all the same abilities, and everyone hits for the same damage. Theres your balance have fun.

Battle leveling doesn't sniff top tier gear. Battle leveled sorc is 2k SD 35-30k magick. I can get twice that SD on my sorc.

Brrrofski · January 2016

phbell wrote: »

It appears that no one has to earn their skill level now. Battle leveling replaces experience.

ZOS is appealing to the lowest common denominator and ruining the game in the process.

None of this is okay and another reason to avoid PvP.

It also allows noobs to be slightly competitive.

If you can't beat a noob with stats almost as good as yours, where's your skill?

By putting their stats close to end game, the difference IS skill.

Also, some of us have multiple 16s and still made new toons. Battle levelling allows me to get the skills I need and jump into pvp and be able to hold my own against anyone. Not have to grind to 16 before PvPing because my stats are miles behind.

You earn no skill by grinding to 16.

My last toon spent vet 2-16 a week running in circles in different locations spamming sap essence. What enriching, educational and skill building experience did I gain from that?

WillhelmBlack · January 2016

Before battle levelling I brought my lvl 15 Magicka Sorc to Azura thinking it would be a laugh. First fight, 7 of us vs 10 I think, I got to the fight late 3 of us were down and we had got 3-4 of them down, fight goes on, we're dropping til I'm the only one left. I killed the last 5 on my own, I never played him as Magicka ever again. Easy mode, I had no streak or conjured ward just healing ward, silence and frag proc after frag proc.

Isbilen · January 2016

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

Out of the group of 10 of you killing the same guy, I'm sure you did the most damage.

Lvl 10s are OP, Zeni make us VR16 from the start.

You're judging by one scenario, I'm talking about 1v1/x lmao

And it's the damge and stats, they're insane like 38k magicka, 2k SD, 27k health on a lvl 10, etc.

That's nothing man, here's my lvl 20 Templar: i.imgur.com/75e0SiJ.jpg

WillhelmBlack · January 2016

Isbilen wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

Out of the group of 10 of you killing the same guy, I'm sure you did the most damage.

Lvl 10s are OP, Zeni make us VR16 from the start.

You're judging by one scenario, I'm talking about 1v1/x lmao

And it's the damge and stats, they're insane like 38k magicka, 2k SD, 27k health on a lvl 10, etc.

That's nothing man, here's my lvl 20 Templar: i.imgur.com/75e0SiJ.jpg

Trumps Willhelm in everything but spell resist, I'm at cap in light and 40k+ in heavy. That lvl 20 smashes me everywhere else though especially if it were to use purple food to bump it's stamina up.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · January 2016

Brrrofski wrote: »

phbell wrote: »

It appears that no one has to earn their skill level now. Battle leveling replaces experience.

ZOS is appealing to the lowest common denominator and ruining the game in the process.

None of this is okay and another reason to avoid PvP.

It also allows noobs to be slightly competitive.

If you can't beat a noob with stats almost as good as yours, where's your skill?

By putting their stats close to end game, the difference IS skill.

Also, some of us have multiple 16s and still made new toons. Battle levelling allows me to get the skills I need and jump into pvp and be able to hold my own against anyone. Not have to grind to 16 before PvPing because my stats are miles behind.

You earn no skill by grinding to 16.

My last toon spent vet 2-16 a week running in circles in different locations spamming sap essence. What enriching, educational and skill building experience did I gain from that?

Why does your low level need to be competitive weak low levels should get Rick Rolled in one hit.
What's the point of progress if you can kill the same at all levels lack of skills, passives and stats should force low levels to get stronger before trying to PvP and not rewarding them for being weak.

Grabmoore · January 2016

Isbilen wrote: »

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Ruben wrote: »

Out of the group of 10 of you killing the same guy, I'm sure you did the most damage.

Lvl 10s are OP, Zeni make us VR16 from the start.

You're judging by one scenario, I'm talking about 1v1/x lmao

And it's the damge and stats, they're insane like 38k magicka, 2k SD, 27k health on a lvl 10, etc.

That's nothing man, here's my lvl 20 Templar: i.imgur.com/75e0SiJ.jpg

Only 41k? Get on my stamina level :P