Solariken wrote: »

w3ng_vgeb17_ESO wrote: »

I use animation cancelling because I have to if I want to be competitive. I hate it though. The only things that should cancel animations (sometimes) are block and dodge-roll for survival reasons. NOT other DPS abilities. It's part of the reason why damage is so out of control in PvP.

My problem with animation cancelling is not necessarily animation cancelling itself, but in the fact that not all classes or weapon styles are evenly distributed to take advantage of animation cancellation. Templar is perhaps the most difficult class to animation cancel because everything is a long cast or channel. This means the class is reliant upon its ability to actually deal damage based on the tooltip, whereas many other classes DPS is built into the animation cancellation system that exists.

I actually like animation cancelling in the game. DCUO has it and I believe it makes that game a lot more lively and entertaining. It makes the game more skillful. The problem arises in ESO because not everyone can cancel as easily and this creates obvious inequities. This is also one of many reasons why I can't find it in myself to use jabs for anything, pve or pvp. Steel tornado is a far better aoe, and for single target I would much rather use something like wrecking blow or executioner both of which can be animation cancelled and don't have a faux cc that gives your enemy cc immunity.

My point essentially is that the real issue is the inequity of skills. Templar is completely reliant on cast times and cooldowns, has major problems with cc immunity and fake cc's, no mobility, questionable defenses, and the saving grace of having one skill: Breath Of Life. Templar is the only class with the requirement of play how you want, as long as it is a healer. I admit this is hyperbole, and I will even admit that there are good Templars out there who can trudge along in the current situation. I would argue if they were playing another class they would perform significantly better. A powerful templar player is the best player in the game, period. Templar is easily interrupted and has very long cast times, channels, and sluggish motion. If you are being beat by a Templar it is because their Timing is vastly superior to yours, or their gear far outclasses yours. It is as simple as that. By way of example I will try to compare. In boxing as well as martial arts in general there are essentially three core principles involved in landing a technique: Speed, Distance, and Timing. A very skillful opponent may not necessarily be fast but they have a mastery of covering the right ground at the right moment at the right time. Templar is horrible at Speed and Distance, therefore all they have is Timing which is reliant purely on player skill and internet connection. Good luck Templars.

In summary, I have no problem with animation cancellation whatsoever. The problem I have is the way its efficacy is being distributed through the classes. As a side note, Dragon Knight doesn't do so well on the Speed issue either. All things being equal if they wish to retain this paradigm, DK and Templar need to be absolutely tankier in order to (forgive the boxing reference) rope-a-dope the Sorcs and NB's in PVP.

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

Yep! If zeni could just put a 5 sec cool down timer to each ability.

Please...please no more cooldowns. I like this game because its combat isn't like EVERY OTHER MMO. Every cooldown that's been added has just brought my responsive gameplay to a halt. I'll start heavy attacking, turn to another enemy to cast something and I'm STILL heavy attacking the friggen thing behind me.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

The fix is so simple, just change the global cooldown of moves to match the animation times why don't they just do that?

I think they're trying without telling us. I can feeeeel it with every update. I suddenly can't throw a frag, executes aren't hitting, heavy attacks keep charging well after I've let go of the button, ultimates aren't going off, roll dodges have these little pauses before being able to block, and potions get pressed but aren't used.

Kova wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

Yep! If zeni could just put a 5 sec cool down timer to each ability.

Please...please no more cooldowns. I like this game because its combat isn't like EVERY OTHER MMO. Every cooldown that's been added has just brought my responsive gameplay to a halt. I'll start heavy attacking, turn to another enemy to cast something and I'm STILL heavy attacking the friggen thing behind me.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

The fix is so simple, just change the global cooldown of moves to match the animation times why don't they just do that?

I think they're trying without telling us. I can feeeeel it with every update. I suddenly can't throw a frag, executes aren't hitting, heavy attacks keep charging well after I've let go of the button, ultimates aren't going off, roll dodges have these little pauses before being able to block, and potions get pressed but aren't used.

well that explains these issues I have been seeing that keep on getting me killed when I shouldn't be...