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Undaunted chests staying or going?
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Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nm, was wrong.Edited by Justice31st on January 5, 2016 12:06AM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."0 -
Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭Lol at this thread.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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Vangy✭✭✭✭✭
✭redspecter23 wrote: »
NO its not its gear can not be comparable to skills am not sure how to say this any other way their no where near the same thing.YOu have to earn skills gear you should be able to get the way you like to play.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Because Skills and gear are two completely different things.IF you want skills you should have to earn them so PVP.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »are they selling both helm and shoulders ? thought I read or heard it will be only one piece of the set.
1:03:50 which is where new merchant come's in.
To some it up:
-AP or Gold VERY HIGH COST
-Could be Helm or Shoulder but also crafted set's like hunding rage.
-There's a designated location for each faction.
-There's a standard schedule (not finalized yet). He/She stay's for 2 day's each week.
Also to add to what op has asked.
Daily key run's are staying and probably going to be a more practical way of receiving undaunted set's. You have 7 day's in which you can get key's. Also you can farm bosses for the helmet's.
It could be several week's before you get the thing you want from this new merchant. He/She could sell crafted set's for 2 week's straight for all we know.
However for player's like me who hate pve with a passion, it's nice to be able to finally pick up a monster set or two will any ap or gold i have when the time come's.
The only thing bugging me is the price. What is expensive to you guys?
1 million ap for a undaunted piece? That's quiet a lot of pvp in my opinion. It would really suck not having enough ap and there is Molag kena divine's for sale and you have 200k ap. No way your gonna get 800k in 2 day's.
What about the gold price though? I've never had more then 200k gold. At the moment i have like 20k. There's nothing to sell really. I guess it'll be a different story once there's new pvp set's. I'll be able to sell shadowwalker again etc.
250k gold sound's good to me. That's still a ton of gold.
So why should PvPers that hate PvE with a passion get to skip what they hate when the reverse is not allowed apparently when many PvErs want to skip PvP which is what they hate? Hypocrisy at it's best.
It IS the same thing though, if you want to have a monster helm, earn it by PvEing. It's the only grind that can be remotely comparable to the PvP grind.
Both are forms of character progression. You have to earn skills. You have to earn gear. Both do special little things and add numbers to your character. In both cases your "best in slot" can be either gear or skills that you have to earn. In one case you have an item that adds stats and has an ability. In the other you have an ability you activate. Both very similar. In the case of the Molag Kena 2 piece, you actually trigger the ability yourself which is pretty much an extra skill you have available to you.
Uhmmmm nope. And nope. Skills not equal to gear. Here's a little perspective. Up till ic came out pvp gear was BOE. (Still is but pvp gear needs to be upped to v16). Up till then sets like ravagers were used by quite a lot of pve builds etc. So no. You can't compare gears to skills cos pvers always had access to pvp gear. All they had to do was pay some gold. Just hold on for a little and pvp gear will be upgraded to v16 and you can get it for gold and stop complaining about helms being available for ap and gold.
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Leon119✭✭✭✭
You still have to earn the gear now you have to gather the necessary AP for it.You are still earning the gear by during PVP. What PVEr want is to do nothing and earn skills which is not the same thing with gear.I don't care what you say its not the same thing your still earning gear just by PVPing instead of running dungeons.Earn your skills and PVP.redspecter23 wrote: »
NO its not its gear can not be comparable to skills am not sure how to say this any other way their no where near the same thing.YOu have to earn skills gear you should be able to get the way you like to play.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Because Skills and gear are two completely different things.IF you want skills you should have to earn them so PVP.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »are they selling both helm and shoulders ? thought I read or heard it will be only one piece of the set.
1:03:50 which is where new merchant come's in.
To some it up:
-AP or Gold VERY HIGH COST
-Could be Helm or Shoulder but also crafted set's like hunding rage.
-There's a designated location for each faction.
-There's a standard schedule (not finalized yet). He/She stay's for 2 day's each week.
Also to add to what op has asked.
Daily key run's are staying and probably going to be a more practical way of receiving undaunted set's. You have 7 day's in which you can get key's. Also you can farm bosses for the helmet's.
It could be several week's before you get the thing you want from this new merchant. He/She could sell crafted set's for 2 week's straight for all we know.
However for player's like me who hate pve with a passion, it's nice to be able to finally pick up a monster set or two will any ap or gold i have when the time come's.
The only thing bugging me is the price. What is expensive to you guys?
1 million ap for a undaunted piece? That's quiet a lot of pvp in my opinion. It would really suck not having enough ap and there is Molag kena divine's for sale and you have 200k ap. No way your gonna get 800k in 2 day's.
What about the gold price though? I've never had more then 200k gold. At the moment i have like 20k. There's nothing to sell really. I guess it'll be a different story once there's new pvp set's. I'll be able to sell shadowwalker again etc.
250k gold sound's good to me. That's still a ton of gold.
So why should PvPers that hate PvE with a passion get to skip what they hate when the reverse is not allowed apparently when many PvErs want to skip PvP which is what they hate? Hypocrisy at it's best.
It IS the same thing though, if you want to have a monster helm, earn it by PvEing. It's the only grind that can be remotely comparable to the PvP grind.
Both are forms of character progression. You have to earn skills. You have to earn gear. Both do special little things and add numbers to your character. In both cases your "best in slot" can be either gear or skills that you have to earn. In one case you have an item that adds stats and has an ability. In the other you have an ability you activate. Both very similar. In the case of the Molag Kena 2 piece, you actually trigger the ability yourself which is pretty much an extra skill you have available to you.
No its common sense if you want skills do the content earn the skills and stop crying.Also its not for free we have to play for it we have to farm AP to get the gear.We are earning our gear just like you.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »
NO its not its gear can not be comparable to skills am not sure how to say this any other way their no where near the same thing.YOu have to earn skills gear you should be able to get the way you like to play.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Because Skills and gear are two completely different things.IF you want skills you should have to earn them so PVP.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »are they selling both helm and shoulders ? thought I read or heard it will be only one piece of the set.
1:03:50 which is where new merchant come's in.
To some it up:
-AP or Gold VERY HIGH COST
-Could be Helm or Shoulder but also crafted set's like hunding rage.
-There's a designated location for each faction.
-There's a standard schedule (not finalized yet). He/She stay's for 2 day's each week.
Also to add to what op has asked.
Daily key run's are staying and probably going to be a more practical way of receiving undaunted set's. You have 7 day's in which you can get key's. Also you can farm bosses for the helmet's.
It could be several week's before you get the thing you want from this new merchant. He/She could sell crafted set's for 2 week's straight for all we know.
However for player's like me who hate pve with a passion, it's nice to be able to finally pick up a monster set or two will any ap or gold i have when the time come's.
The only thing bugging me is the price. What is expensive to you guys?
1 million ap for a undaunted piece? That's quiet a lot of pvp in my opinion. It would really suck not having enough ap and there is Molag kena divine's for sale and you have 200k ap. No way your gonna get 800k in 2 day's.
What about the gold price though? I've never had more then 200k gold. At the moment i have like 20k. There's nothing to sell really. I guess it'll be a different story once there's new pvp set's. I'll be able to sell shadowwalker again etc.
250k gold sound's good to me. That's still a ton of gold.
So why should PvPers that hate PvE with a passion get to skip what they hate when the reverse is not allowed apparently when many PvErs want to skip PvP which is what they hate? Hypocrisy at it's best.
It IS the same thing though, if you want to have a monster helm, earn it by PvEing. It's the only grind that can be remotely comparable to the PvP grind.
Both are forms of character progression. You have to earn skills. You have to earn gear. Both do special little things and add numbers to your character. In both cases your "best in slot" can be either gear or skills that you have to earn. In one case you have an item that adds stats and has an ability. In the other you have an ability you activate. Both very similar. In the case of the Molag Kena 2 piece, you actually trigger the ability yourself which is pretty much an extra skill you have available to you.
Yeah, unfortunately PvPers can't get that past their thick anti-PvE mindset which makes them unable to see anything in a reasonable way, it's all just PvPPvPPvPPvPPvP on repeat in their heads without any regard to overall balance or fairness in the game. They just want all the good things from PvE for free so that they can PvP without having to do what they don't like while not allowing the same for PvErs.
There is more hypocricy here than all the goverments and religions combined
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✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »
NO its not its gear can not be comparable to skills am not sure how to say this any other way their no where near the same thing.YOu have to earn skills gear you should be able to get the way you like to play.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »
Because Skills and gear are two completely different things.IF you want skills you should have to earn them so PVP.cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »kevlarto_ESO wrote: »are they selling both helm and shoulders ? thought I read or heard it will be only one piece of the set.
1:03:50 which is where new merchant come's in.
To some it up:
-AP or Gold VERY HIGH COST
-Could be Helm or Shoulder but also crafted set's like hunding rage.
-There's a designated location for each faction.
-There's a standard schedule (not finalized yet). He/She stay's for 2 day's each week.
Also to add to what op has asked.
Daily key run's are staying and probably going to be a more practical way of receiving undaunted set's. You have 7 day's in which you can get key's. Also you can farm bosses for the helmet's.
It could be several week's before you get the thing you want from this new merchant. He/She could sell crafted set's for 2 week's straight for all we know.
However for player's like me who hate pve with a passion, it's nice to be able to finally pick up a monster set or two will any ap or gold i have when the time come's.
The only thing bugging me is the price. What is expensive to you guys?
1 million ap for a undaunted piece? That's quiet a lot of pvp in my opinion. It would really suck not having enough ap and there is Molag kena divine's for sale and you have 200k ap. No way your gonna get 800k in 2 day's.
What about the gold price though? I've never had more then 200k gold. At the moment i have like 20k. There's nothing to sell really. I guess it'll be a different story once there's new pvp set's. I'll be able to sell shadowwalker again etc.
250k gold sound's good to me. That's still a ton of gold.
So why should PvPers that hate PvE with a passion get to skip what they hate when the reverse is not allowed apparently when many PvErs want to skip PvP which is what they hate? Hypocrisy at it's best.
It IS the same thing though, if you want to have a monster helm, earn it by PvEing. It's the only grind that can be remotely comparable to the PvP grind.
Both are forms of character progression. You have to earn skills. You have to earn gear. Both do special little things and add numbers to your character. In both cases your "best in slot" can be either gear or skills that you have to earn. In one case you have an item that adds stats and has an ability. In the other you have an ability you activate. Both very similar. In the case of the Molag Kena 2 piece, you actually trigger the ability yourself which is pretty much an extra skill you have available to you.
Uhmmmm nope. And nope. Skills not equal to gear. Here's a little perspective. Up till ic came out pvp gear was BOE. (Still is but pvp gear needs to be upped to v16). Up till then sets like ravagers were used by quite a lot of pve builds etc. So no. You can't compare gears to skills cos pvers always had access to pvp gear. All they had to do was pay some gold. Just hold on for a little and pvp gear will be upgraded to v16 and you can get it for gold and stop complaining about helms being available for ap and gold.
I say nope to your nope. Character progression is character progression regardless of whether it's gear or skills. We'll agree to disagree I suppose.
For those in this thread comparing the grind of mages guild, fighters guild or any other skill line in the game to the alliance war skill line grind, I can only say that the two are not even remotely close time wise. One is unlocked in a matter of hours or days and the other is weeks or months. Any pve unlocks can be done on your own time with a maximum of 4 players to do it efficiently. You can't do that with the alliance war skill line.Edited by redspecter23 on January 5, 2016 5:02PM0
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