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Instead of continually nerfing Sorcs....
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mrdaveqc✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )
Power Overload needs to be fixed...it does less damage than Energy Overload. But if you nerf that then you need to slightly buff Sorc base dmg to compensate, because Overload is mostly how a Sorcerer remains competitive in PvE.
I got to say I did not think for the Pve side on that one : /
^ This, this is the problem with nerf threads they are ALWAYS based on only one aspect of the game usually PvP. Everyone Zenimx included always forgets that there are 2 aspects in this game and if you nerf something it negatively affects both sides not just one! What may be OP in PvP may be essential to the class in PvE.
I just want to point out the fact I did not ask for a nerf I just say I was not against it whiteout having thinking for Pve ..and I bet more then half of the people asking for nerf don't think about it. But it's at Zos to find the perfect balance with the feed back that we are giving .Ps4 NA DC
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thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.
With ic shields got nerfed but damage only recieved a temporary nerf. Damage and healing is now back to high levels with the result being that shields overall took a great nerf. If you cant break through hardened ward alone then thats on you.
Edited by thelordoffelines on January 2, 2016 9:26AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭What bothers me is that shields are uncrittable. I'd love to run a crit build, but it's so bad when I encounter a sorc
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✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.PS4 EU DC
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✭✭✭✭✭strikeback1247 wrote: »What bothers me is that shields are uncrittable. I'd love to run a crit build, but it's so bad when I encounter a sorc
If shields become critable they they will become useless at the same time that can barely take 1 hit from wb now.PS4 EU DC
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
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✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?Edited by leepalmer95 on January 2, 2016 9:48AMPS4 EU DC
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?
Actually it does, especially when no other class can do this high dps, and a new trial is going to be released soon.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?
Actually it does, especially when no other class can do this high dps, and a new trial is going to be released soon.
Thats like saying templars can heal better then every other class therefore that matters etc.... Sorc have been useless in pve since release now that they have some way to compete with the other classes people are complaining?PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?
Actually it does, especially when no other class can do this high dps, and a new trial is going to be released soon.
Thats like saying templars can heal better then every other class therefore that matters etc.... Sorc have been useless in pve since release now that they have some way to compete with the other classes people are complaining?
First of all, most of content is so easy that everyone can heal it, sometimes I even do gold keys without a healer.
Imo sorcs should be on par with other mage classes, like nb and dk, with more sustainable dps (like dks), but getting absolute top dps with light attack spam is just silly.Edited by LadyNalcarya on January 2, 2016 10:10AMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?
Actually it does, especially when no other class can do this high dps, and a new trial is going to be released soon.
Thats like saying templars can heal better then every other class therefore that matters etc.... Sorc have been useless in pve since release now that they have some way to compete with the other classes people are complaining?
First of all, most of content is so easy that everyone can heal it, sometimes I even do gold keys without a healer.
Imo sorcs should be on par with other mage classes, like nb and dk, with more sustainable dps (like dks), but getting absolute top dps with light attack spam is just silly.
Getting top dps for 30 seconds, every other time their below.
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Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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pronkg✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?
Actually it does, especially when no other class can do this high dps, and a new trial is going to be released soon.
Thats like saying templars can heal better then every other class therefore that matters etc.... Sorc have been useless in pve since release now that they have some way to compete with the other classes people are complaining?
First of all, most of content is so easy that everyone can heal it, sometimes I even do gold keys without a healer.
Imo sorcs should be on par with other mage classes, like nb and dk, with more sustainable dps (like dks), but getting absolute top dps with light attack spam is just silly.
Ill be fine with a nerf to overload if they give us another skill that makes us competitive to other classes in dps.
I don't want to go back to the time where people didn't want to go in a dungeon or trial with me because I'm a sorc and sorcs don't have good dps0 -
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✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...Emma_Eunjung wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
Every couple months since the Beta.
I bet you're both console players otherwise you would remember how much sorcs grew in power from 1.5 to 1.6 along with the NBs.
The only classes that overall has been nerfed since beta are DKs and Templars, with DKs taking the biggest hit since they were insanely OP in the beginning.
The only class that has never had a time of domination in Cyrodiil are Templars.
DKs had 1.0 - 1.5
Sorcs had 1.6 - 1.7
NBs are currently now dominating since 1.8 with sorcs still being a very close second
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✭✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...Emma_Eunjung wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
Every couple months since the Beta.
I bet you're both console players otherwise you would remember how much sorcs grew in power from 1.5 to 1.6 along with the NBs.
The only classes that overall has been nerfed since beta are DKs and Templars, with DKs taking the biggest hit since they were insanely OP in the beginning.
The only class that has never had a time of domination in Cyrodiil are Templars.
DKs had 1.0 - 1.5
Sorcs had 1.6 - 1.7
NBs are currently now dominating since 1.8 with sorcs still being a very close second
This is the truth of it really, and you're both painting a skewered picture.
Stamina builds still hit stupidly hard, hardened ward takes 1 hit from most high dmg stam builds and it's gone/PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Jar_Ek✭✭✭✭✭Could everyone please try to remember that class != build.
Magicka stacking sorcerers could be OP as they have both offense and defence baked into one stat, arguably the same is true for magicka templars to a lesser extent. Health or stamina sorcerers are far from OP and are probably slightly below other stamina class builds due to their lack of viable options for survival (ward is maybe 3k in PvP at most), and they have been hit far harder with stacking costs on bolt escape than magicka. Plus stamina sorcerers have no access to burst from their class lines at all, or even decent direct damage... and a lot of the utility is too costly to actually use.
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✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.
No, you obviously don't understand how shields work, or you would know that the 50% Battle Spirit nerf is a disaster for Sorcs. For several months since the horrible (and unnecessary) nerf to Surge heals, Hardened Ward has basically functioned as our de facto Health bar, because we had no way of reliably replenishing our real Health bar.
When the Battle Spirit nerf cut our Wards in half, it effectively cut our HEALTH in half! When a Spamblade starts wailing on you with 12K Wrecking Blows, a 10K Ward is a DEATH SENTENCE. No other class has had to deal with any nerfs nearly so destructive and debilitating as that.
Aha, so my magica NB only heal is Mark target, which procs on kills. You can slot resto staff and use healing ward like everyone else, but nooo, sorcs are to good for that. Sure, 12k WBs are tough nugets to swallow, but againg sorcs are only ones that dont have to deal with it, since first off your shields cant be crited, so you take only 6k dmg. Which means your 1 shield absorbs 2WBs, and you complain about that, unbeliveable, other classes plain die to that, you only reaplly insta cast shield.
You also have to take into consideration cost of casting ward, and cost of bringing that ward down, which is easily double the cost to bring it down.
Lastly, ppl talk about draining sorc stamina to kill them, you know they can use immovable pots to. So, drop stamina to 1/3rd, np drink immovable pot, restore stam, problem solved...
Truth is, only highly bursty stam NBs can effectively (by that i mean, having a good shoot at killing equally skilled) kill sorcs, everyone else can only die or best case scenarion pull out a draw, and watch him streak away.3 -
pronkg✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.
No, you obviously don't understand how shields work, or you would know that the 50% Battle Spirit nerf is a disaster for Sorcs. For several months since the horrible (and unnecessary) nerf to Surge heals, Hardened Ward has basically functioned as our de facto Health bar, because we had no way of reliably replenishing our real Health bar.
When the Battle Spirit nerf cut our Wards in half, it effectively cut our HEALTH in half! When a Spamblade starts wailing on you with 12K Wrecking Blows, a 10K Ward is a DEATH SENTENCE. No other class has had to deal with any nerfs nearly so destructive and debilitating as that.
Aha, so my magica NB only heal is Mark target, which procs on kills. You can slot resto staff and use healing ward like everyone else, but nooo, sorcs are to good for that. Sure, 12k WBs are tough nugets to swallow, but againg sorcs are only ones that dont have to deal with it, since first off your shields cant be crited, so you take only 6k dmg. Which means your 1 shield absorbs 2WBs, and you complain about that, unbeliveable, other classes plain die to that, you only reaplly insta cast shield.
You also have to take into consideration cost of casting ward, and cost of bringing that ward down, which is easily double the cost to bring it down.
Lastly, ppl talk about draining sorc stamina to kill them, you know they can use immovable pots to. So, drop stamina to 1/3rd, np drink immovable pot, restore stam, problem solved...
Truth is, only highly bursty stam NBs can effectively (by that i mean, having a good shoot at killing equally skilled) kill sorcs, everyone else can only die or best case scenarion pull out a draw, and watch him streak away.
sorry to say but sorcs are the easiest target for my stam blade currently. Can't even remember the last time a sorc beat me in pvp.
A sorc that needs to streak away is a dead sorc 100% of the time and I'm only using 2 handed skilline. Streak is not an escape ability anymore lol the range is so short
You don't need to be a nightbLade for that. Any stam class can use a 2handedEdited by pronkg on January 2, 2016 11:44AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭Wow. Hard to believe how many people are fans of this stupid and ridiculous nerf culture ZoS has been celebrating. Do you guys really wanna see every class end up like the magicka DK nowadays?
I'd prefer they start buffing things up again. Even if it requires more work and is slightly harder to do. Still beter for the longterm health of the classes. But then again, I don't really trust ZoS to be competent enough.Susano'o
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✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.
No, you obviously don't understand how shields work, or you would know that the 50% Battle Spirit nerf is a disaster for Sorcs. For several months since the horrible (and unnecessary) nerf to Surge heals, Hardened Ward has basically functioned as our de facto Health bar, because we had no way of reliably replenishing our real Health bar.
When the Battle Spirit nerf cut our Wards in half, it effectively cut our HEALTH in half! When a Spamblade starts wailing on you with 12K Wrecking Blows, a 10K Ward is a DEATH SENTENCE. No other class has had to deal with any nerfs nearly so destructive and debilitating as that.
Aha, so my magica NB only heal is Mark target, which procs on kills. You can slot resto staff and use healing ward like everyone else, but nooo, sorcs are to good for that. Sure, 12k WBs are tough nugets to swallow, but againg sorcs are only ones that dont have to deal with it, since first off your shields cant be crited, so you take only 6k dmg. Which means your 1 shield absorbs 2WBs, and you complain about that, unbeliveable, other classes plain die to that, you only reaplly insta cast shield.
You also have to take into consideration cost of casting ward, and cost of bringing that ward down, which is easily double the cost to bring it down.
Lastly, ppl talk about draining sorc stamina to kill them, you know they can use immovable pots to. So, drop stamina to 1/3rd, np drink immovable pot, restore stam, problem solved...
Truth is, only highly bursty stam NBs can effectively (by that i mean, having a good shoot at killing equally skilled) kill sorcs, everyone else can only die or best case scenarion pull out a draw, and watch him streak away.
Are we ignoring the siphoning line or something pretty sure that heals? A sorc only heal is ward and unlike nb's we can't just go invisible until were fully healed, i know i have a v16 magicka nb and it is > than my sorc.
Every other class can deal with wb? Nb's hit 1 button and reset the fight, templars outheal everything, dk's are likely using wb if their magicka then talons + go behind them, nb's have far too much stun/cc and escape/mobility to be killed by wb.
12k wb tooltip is low, try a 14k+ one, 1 wb will take 7k,. the next one will be a 17% wb because it buff's itself, which will drop us so far.
Sorc are easy to kill, just people refuse to learn how and instead cry when spamming 1 button doesn't work.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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✭✭✭✭Nothing wrong with sorc shields.
Just stop harness magica stacking with hardened ward.
Stam users have no trouble taking me down on my sorc, and I never have issues taking down sorcs when I'm on my stam Dk, stam Sorc and stam Nb.
I do struggle with my mag templar and mag blade though. But it's because of harness and hardened together. Stop them stacking no issue.
If you're stam, sorcs aren't too problematic. Just learn how to fight them. That's why shieldbreaker is a joke. Stam users need no help against sorcs.0 -
pronkg✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.
No, you obviously don't understand how shields work, or you would know that the 50% Battle Spirit nerf is a disaster for Sorcs. For several months since the horrible (and unnecessary) nerf to Surge heals, Hardened Ward has basically functioned as our de facto Health bar, because we had no way of reliably replenishing our real Health bar.
When the Battle Spirit nerf cut our Wards in half, it effectively cut our HEALTH in half! When a Spamblade starts wailing on you with 12K Wrecking Blows, a 10K Ward is a DEATH SENTENCE. No other class has had to deal with any nerfs nearly so destructive and debilitating as that.
Aha, so my magica NB only heal is Mark target, which procs on kills. You can slot resto staff and use healing ward like everyone else, but nooo, sorcs are to good for that. Sure, 12k WBs are tough nugets to swallow, but againg sorcs are only ones that dont have to deal with it, since first off your shields cant be crited, so you take only 6k dmg. Which means your 1 shield absorbs 2WBs, and you complain about that, unbeliveable, other classes plain die to that, you only reaplly insta cast shield.
You also have to take into consideration cost of casting ward, and cost of bringing that ward down, which is easily double the cost to bring it down.
Lastly, ppl talk about draining sorc stamina to kill them, you know they can use immovable pots to. So, drop stamina to 1/3rd, np drink immovable pot, restore stam, problem solved...
Truth is, only highly bursty stam NBs can effectively (by that i mean, having a good shoot at killing equally skilled) kill sorcs, everyone else can only die or best case scenarion pull out a draw, and watch him streak away.
Are we ignoring the siphoning line or something pretty sure that heals? A sorc only heal is ward and unlike nb's we can't just go invisible until were fully healed, i know i have a v16 magicka nb and it is > than my sorc.
Every other class can deal with wb? Nb's hit 1 button and reset the fight, templars outheal everything, dk's are likely using wb if their magicka then talons + go behind them, nb's have far too much stun/cc and escape/mobility to be killed by wb.
12k wb tooltip is low, try a 14k+ one, 1 wb will take 7k,. the next one will be a 17% wb because it buff's itself, which will drop us so far.
Sorc are easy to kill, just people refuse to learn how and instead cry when spamming 1 button doesn't work.
Yes, yes, yes and yes.
I have a magicka sorc and a stam blade fully equipped. I know how to beat sorcs with stamblade and know how to beat stamblade with sorc.
I still must say sorcs are pretty easy to kill with a decent stamina build. Favor to DK and NB.
Magicka NB are a pain in the ass and force you to use certain skills to detect them. It's the most cowardly class off all.
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Anzriel✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
And this is why they're pulling the highest dps in game.
For about 30 seconds with their ult, when that runs out there back to the bottom ... again.
Which doesnt matter when everything is dead in these 30 seconds.
Yes because the fact they can put out more dps vs the last boss by specifically building their ult for the entire dungeon meaning their dps will drop for most of it. Sounds such gamebreaking. Does it matter if you do a dungeon in 20 mins or 15 mins?
Actually it does, especially when no other class can do this high dps, and a new trial is going to be released soon.
Thats like saying templars can heal better then every other class therefore that matters etc.... Sorc have been useless in pve since release now that they have some way to compete with the other classes people are complaining?
First of all, most of content is so easy that everyone can heal it, sometimes I even do gold keys without a healer.
Imo sorcs should be on par with other mage classes, like nb and dk, with more sustainable dps (like dks), but getting absolute top dps with light attack spam is just silly.
Honestly, you give my sorc sustainable dps like a dk, you can have my overload. Like completely. Feel free to delete it from the game if sorc could put up those kind of numbers without overload. I honestly don't even like using overload, and being reliant on it is just painful. Not to mention outside it I think sorc is a good 15%+ behind other classes? (Someone more experience feel free to correct me, I can only go by what I've seen). Bring that up to competitive sustained dps and I'd be happy. I'd be perfectly fine adding morphs to velocious curse or frags or whatever skill so that sorc wouldn't have easy access to both burst and sustain at the same time. (Or whatever the case may be to balance things out)Wow. Hard to believe how many people are fans of this stupid and ridiculous nerf culture ZoS has been celebrating. Do you guys really wanna see every class end up like the magicka DK nowadays?
I'd prefer they start buffing things up again. Even if it requires more work and is slightly harder to do. Still beter for the longterm health of the classes. But then again, I don't really trust ZoS to be competent enough.
Eh, some nerfs might be needed to keep power creep in line. Some mild nerfs with some buffs to balance it out might be the best case scenario. Ideally you'd want all classes being competitive in both magicka and stamina spec. I don't think it'll happen, but it is what I would say is the best thing to aim for.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭sorc is like the top class to play or a nightblade
try being a templar lol, zos has ruined that class in pvp so badly.#MOREORBS1 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭sorc is like the top class to play or a nightblade
try being a templar lol, zos has ruined that class in pvp so badly.
Though PvP is like what, 10% of the game. Don't go after ruining the 90% of the rest of the game because zenimax can't balance PvP at allR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
Because crit tanks are so good, LOL. xD0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lol the hell you talking about? Ever duelled a sorc? By the time they finished buffing it feels like this
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ostrapz✭✭✭Some of you are simply lying in this thread, someone trying to say they have a 3k ward?? Gtfo. People complaining about ward isnt strong enough is simply a lie. I just saw a sorc named micha in richard stream with a 25k+ damage shield. You cant just run a good sorc outta stam and usually hide on mines which are unavoidable on lag. Hardened ward is the only ability that is gonna give u an instant 10k health reliably, and pull u out of execution range, the fact u cant crit sheilds makes some builds useless( wheres my briarheart heals on sorc). I havent played since launch but ive been given the impression nb was bad , got buffed, dk and templar nerfed and that sorc has always been fineXbox 1 NA
Stamblade: Grand overlord
Stamsorc: Major
Magplar: Centurion
551k vma0
