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Instead of continually nerfing Sorcs....
Jaywics
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Just balance all class based shields in the game to be on par with them..
Or just buff the bone shield in the Undaunted skill line so that all classes have a viable option...
Bone Shield
Cast Time
Instant
Target
Self
Duration
5 seconds
Cost
3410 Stamina
Compared to:
Conjured Ward
Cast Time
Instant
Target
Area
Radius
20 meters
Duration
20 seconds
Cost
3166 Magicka
This suggestion seems like a no brainer and it will bring balance back some in pvp and in vMA....
We have been told that Templars and DKs will be receiving class buffs, imo this should be one of the top priorities...
Thanks for the read, Happy New Year!
Or just buff the bone shield in the Undaunted skill line so that all classes have a viable option...
Bone Shield
Cast Time
Instant
Target
Self
Duration
5 seconds
Cost
3410 Stamina
Compared to:
Conjured Ward
Cast Time
Instant
Target
Area
Radius
20 meters
Duration
20 seconds
Cost
3166 Magicka
This suggestion seems like a no brainer and it will bring balance back some in pvp and in vMA....
We have been told that Templars and DKs will be receiving class buffs, imo this should be one of the top priorities...
Thanks for the read, Happy New Year!
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✭When did sorcerers get nerfed?PS4 NA
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Jaywics✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...XBOX1 NA
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✭✭✭✭✭Instead of continually nerfing stuff...
... how about buffing stuff?
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✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
So in other words they werent nerfed.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
So in other words they werent nerfed.
They was but people are still bad so they still complain.PS4 EU DC
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I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?4 -
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I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...PS4 EU DC
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✭✭✭✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
Every couple months since the Beta.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE5 -
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.4 -
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✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Pretty much this.Sorcs really wasn't nerfed at all their still pretty powerful.Don't forgot Dodgeroll also got a cost increase which effects all stam builds not just one Magica build in the game.Also if you still don't know how to defeat shield breaker that's your problem.leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.0 -
cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Pretty much this.Sorcs really wasn't nerfed at all their still pretty powerful.Don't forgot Dodgeroll also got a cost increase which effects all stam builds not just one Magica build in the game.Also if you still don't know how to defeat shield breaker that's your problem.leepalmer95 wrote: »
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
When IC came out and the dmg got reduced to 50% while shields got 50% nerf, BE got the cost increase, shield breaker came out...
Yea BE/streak got nerfed, but when ppl say "my shields got nerfed by 50%" I go crazy. What did you expect, dmg reduced by 50%, but shields stay at 100%, are you crazy?! But then again, what else can you expect from sorcs, their OPnes went so far, that they think they got nerfed even when ZOS nerfs something across the board.
Well, if you think sorcs are OP, that's your problem, they're in a good spot atm, just need to buff DK's and templars a bit and tone down the forever cloak of NB's with something similar to the BE nerf
Edited by cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO on January 1, 2016 6:11PMR.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
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Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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✭OP either doesn't realize or is "forgetting" bone shield is only good for absorbing physical damage vs. all damage for conjured ward. So no, buffing bone shield will not give other classes a shield ability that is on par with conjured ward.4 -
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✭✭itscompton wrote: »OP either doesn't realize or is "forgetting" bone shield is only good for absorbing physical damage vs. all damage for conjured ward. So no, buffing bone shield will not give other classes a shield ability that is on par with conjured ward.
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Anzriel✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Nerf Sorcerers.Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
So in other words they werent nerfed.
I was thinking the same thing when did they get nerfed?RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
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RizaHawkeye✭✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »You mean to title this thread "Stop nerfing DKs and Templars."
This, so much this.Instead of continually nerfing stuff...
... how about buffing stuff?
And this. Really.
And I'm serious. DO NOT NERF ANYTHING ELSE. Do not nerf sorcs. I don't even play a sorc so this isn't a plea.
Instead, gently begin to buff up some weaker skills. The key word in that sentence is gently. Ease the up slowly. Do it in the weekly patches. See how it effects gameplay. Fix if necessary.
When done, congratulate yourself on a balanced game.War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
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✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »When did sorcerers get nerfed?
If you read patch notes at all....Every update lol...
Okay I read the last 8 PC patch notes an only saw the winged twilight affecting only groups and pet critical getting nerfed and ward unsheathing your weapon. Basically deadric summoning skills which only one of them is good as apposed to templars only offense DKs everything and on PS4 NBs path of darkness 1 second tics with the same damage. yeah it makes PERFECT sense to cry over a small chance reduction to do 500 extra damage because it's making them the worst class in the game...PS4 NA
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✭itscompton wrote: »OP either doesn't realize or is "forgetting" bone shield is only good for absorbing physical damage vs. all damage for conjured ward. So no, buffing bone shield will not give other classes a shield ability that is on par with conjured ward.
Then you can use Harness Magicka + Bone Shield. Every class needs a definition in their way of defense. DKs dragon blood and Wings, Templars BoL, NB stealth, Sorcerers shields. If DKs or NBs want to share their wings or stealth I'll share my shields
but then we'll all just be the same class on the battlefield.
Also our dark conversion recieved a MASSIVE nerf last update when they said all they were doing was changing it from a channel to an instant cast... We're talking about a 60% nerf or more for high Magicka pool builds. That one hit me like a rock. But w.e. I adjusted.Edited by Jsmalls on January 1, 2016 7:13PM0 -
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✭Nerf sorcs. They are suppose to be glass canon class. Not tankiest class with highest burst and cc potential from range. Sorcs are out of control.
It's easier for devs to bring one class down to others rather than buff multiple class to be on par with one.Edited by LegacyDM on January 1, 2016 7:33PMLegacy of Kain
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mrdaveqc✭✭✭Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )Edited by mrdaveqc on January 1, 2016 7:40PMPs4 NA DC
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✭✭✭Yeah, why would you make other shields on-par with Conjured Ward? It's a Sorcerer's only in-class defense. Can all the classes have Cloak, too? What about Scales, can everyone get that? Or how about Breath of Life!
Seriously, stop wanting Ward to be changed. Whatever you do to it will most-likely put Sorcerers in a worse spot.
Make everything on-par with Conjured Ward? Then you have every class running around with a good damage shield AND their own defense. How would you like a Templar with Conjured Ward spamming Breath of Life?
To the people who say shields received a reduction along with damage...no they didn't. Damage was already reduced before Imperial City, so shields actually received about a 20% further reduction when compared to damage.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Nerf sorcs. They are suppose to be glass canon class. Not tankiest class with highest burst and cc potential from range. Sorcs are out of control.
It's easier for devs to bring one class down to others rather than buff multiple class to be on par with one.
And DKs are supposed to be the tank class, and Templars the healing class, and Nightblades the stealthy DPS class. Yet many play it how they're not supposed to...because this is ESO, and people don't have to play within predefined roles whenever they pick a class.Edited by Valrien on January 1, 2016 7:42PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Nerf sorcs. They are suppose to be glass canon class. Not tankiest class with highest burst and cc potential from range. Sorcs are out of control.
It's easier for devs to bring one class down to others rather than buff multiple class to be on par with one.
But they either have to nerf 2 classes or buff 2, buff DK's and templars or nerf sorcs and NB's, I'd rather have a buff then R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
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He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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✭Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )
What's the counter? Shield breaker? Lol. Having to wear specific eq and design a character around the sole purpose of defeating a sorc is stupid. No one wears shield breaker except for niche stamina NB. How are non wearing shield breaking magicka classes suppose to beat the tankiest highest burst class in the game.Legacy of Kain
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )
Power Overload needs to be fixed...it does less damage than Energy Overload. But if you nerf that then you need to slightly buff Sorc base dmg to compensate, because Overload is mostly how a Sorcerer remains competitive in PvE.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, why would you make other shields on-par with Conjured Ward? It's a Sorcerer's only in-class defense. Can all the classes have Cloak, too? What about Scales, can everyone get that? Or how about Breath of Life!
Seriously, stop wanting Ward to be changed. Whatever you do to it will most-likely put Sorcerers in a worse spot.
Make everything on-par with Conjured Ward? Then you have every class running around with a good damage shield AND their own defense. How would you like a Templar with Conjured Ward spamming Breath of Life?
To the people who say shields received a reduction along with damage...no they didn't. Damage was already reduced before Imperial City, so shields actually received about a 20% further reduction when compared to damage.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Nerf sorcs. They are suppose to be glass canon class. Not tankiest class with highest burst and cc potential from range. Sorcs are out of control.
It's easier for devs to bring one class down to others rather than buff multiple class to be on par with one.
And DKs are supposed to be the tank class, and Templars the healing class, and Nightblades the stealthy DPS class. Yet many play it how they're not supposed to...because this is ESO, and people don't have to play within predefined roles whenever they pick a class.
Yeah, so many people wants to just destroy the sorc class completely, I mean hardened ward is the only defence a sorc got, if they take it away the class is dead. Can we take away all the defence every other class got too then?R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )
What's the counter? Shield breaker? Lol. Having to wear specific eq and design a character around the sole purpose of defeating a sorc is stupid. No one wears shield breaker except for niche stamina NB. How are non wearing shield breaking magicka classes suppose to beat the tankiest highest burst class in the game.
Well, you can CC and stun a sorc until they die because of a lack of stamina, but I guess playing with your skills and refusing to change those out works out well....
If you want to easymode shields, can we take away all stealth from NB's too? As I'd love to see them without using any skills to counter them R.I.P. Daranth Spellborn
VR16 Dunmer Sorcerer
March 2014 - May 2016
He was a skilled Crafter and a reliable Sorcerer;
Then came the Dark Brotherhood
Wrobel wrote: Surge is now more effective for tank characters.
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✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )
What's the counter? Shield breaker? Lol. Having to wear specific eq and design a character around the sole purpose of defeating a sorc is stupid. No one wears shield breaker except for niche stamina NB. How are non wearing shield breaking magicka classes suppose to beat the tankiest highest burst class in the game.
Well, you can CC and stun a sorc until they die because of a lack of stamina, but I guess playing with your skills and refusing to change those out works out well....
If you want to easymode shields, can we take away all stealth from NB's too? As I'd love to see them without using any skills to counter them
@joshdm2001_ESO Pretty much anyone with half of a brain can counter shields. If you can't then you just don't have the damage, which is mostly your fault and no one else's, since the sets to get the damage you'd need are pretty easy to acquire for both magicka and stamina builds, and you can still build around them for enough regen to sustain.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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mrdaveqc✭✭✭cosmic_niklas_93b16_ESO wrote: »joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Everything in this game got a counter if u to stupide to know it or run it in ur duel it's ur fault.... In open world pvp it's builds vs build so of course sometime u will get reck by a counter build of your no matter your Classe but I would not be against a nerf to power over load ( I'm a sorc )
What's the counter? Shield breaker? Lol. Having to wear specific eq and design a character around the sole purpose of defeating a sorc is stupid. No one wears shield breaker except for niche stamina NB. How are non wearing shield breaking magicka classes suppose to beat the tankiest highest burst class in the game.
Well, you can CC and stun a sorc until they die because of a lack of stamina, but I guess playing with your skills and refusing to change those out works out well....
If you want to easymode shields, can we take away all stealth from NB's too? As I'd love to see them without using any skills to counter them
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