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How do you guys feel about Sorcerers and Dragonknights not having instant damage abilities

Kammakazi
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that are based off Stamina.

Templar > Biting Jabs (not really instant)
Nightblade > Surprise Attack
Sorcerer > Wrecking Blow (lel)
Dragonknight > Wrecking Blow (lel)
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    They should add in some more weapon skill line's so what your pointing out isn't an issue.

    I'm one of those nightblade's who doesn't like using surprise attack. I wanna use Flurry and poke people to death (1 reason i hate the new 1 handed maelstrom weapon's, no buff to flurry... just DoT's after use of Flurry.... smh).

    Has anyone seen Warframe? They add a new frame almost every couple months with unique skill's and animation's. If only Zos could phone those guy's and get some advice. DE has the best development team around.

    Zos should turn around and patch up all the pot hole's in their game before trying to move forward. All i'm gonna say about that.



    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on December 30, 2015 8:13AM
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  • Magdalina
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    Sorcerer doesn't have ANY instant damage attacks actually :tongue: And I do feel quite strongly about it but oh well. You adapt.
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    They should add in some more weapon skill line's so what your pointing out isn't an issue.

    I'm one of those nightblade's who doesn't like using surprise attack. I wanna use Flurry and poke people to death (1 reason i hate the new 1 handed maelstrom weapon's, no buff to flurry... just DoT's after use of Flurry.... smh).

    Has anyone seen Warframe? They add a new frame almost every couple months with unique skill's and animation's. If only Zos could phone those guy's and get some advice. DE has the best development team around.

    Zos should turn around and patch up all the pot whole's in their game before trying to move forward. All i'm gonna say about that.



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    Very happy. The other classes shouldn't have any either,.
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  • Asmael
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    How does my SnB / 2H stam DK feel? Pretty well.

    How does my 2H / SnB sorc feel? Pretty well.

    Thanks for asking.

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    On a more serious note, could people seriously stop trying to be stamblade? It's pretty obvious everyone want their easy spammable button when they write "spammable burst DPS", not only that, but the said ability you ask for works EXACTLY the same way as Ransack / Heroic Slash.
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Sorcerer doesn't have ANY instant damage attacks actually :tongue: And I do feel quite strongly about it but oh well. You adapt.

    Tangling webs for magicka sorc. As for stam sorc...

    Like I said: people want their own Surprise attack. Tell me what would be the point of WB, Ransack, Flurry and Heroic Slash if all classes had everything? What would be the point of weapons at all?
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  • Lucky28
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    Sorc. it's not weird at all, I don't think they need any Stamina morphs. It just doesn't suit the class. If people want to play a stam sorc with what they have then all the power to 'em and i respect them for taking that challenge. but i do think the class should remain a magicka dominant class. just my opinion.

    DK's on the other hand. it's weird as hell. I mean they have the only physical ultimate in the entire game and yet so few stam morphs, that's really odd.
    Asmael wrote: »
    On a more serious note, could people seriously stop trying to be stamblade? It's pretty obvious everyone want their easy spammable button when they write "spammable burst DPS", not only that, but the said ability you ask for works EXACTLY the same way as Ransack / Heroic Slash.


    I don't want. and that's why i main a sorc and not an NB ;)
    Edited by Lucky28 on December 30, 2015 8:05AM
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    PBpsy wrote: »
    Very happy. The other classes shouldn't have any either,.

    well, this is what happens with constant qq
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    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on December 30, 2015 8:18AM
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  • Jar_Ek
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    Sorcerers could do with a direct damage morph for stamina as the only class damaging ability they have is Thunderous Presence which is frankly bad as a direct damage ability.
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    that are based off Stamina.

    Templar > Biting Jabs (not really instant)
    Nightblade > Surprise Attack
    Sorcerer > Wrecking Blow (lel)
    Dragonknight > Wrecking Blow (lel)

    Biting Jabs not really instant? NOT REALLY? lolololol i call this class racism since biting jabs are like the worst skill one could use, leaves you open to everything, low damage, you can't do anything or else it gets canceled. So yeah Templar would need it more. kk thx bb
  • Stamden
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    Molten Whip should have a stamina morph as pointed out in this thread: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/238580/proposed-dk-rework-1-0#latest

    Hopefully Sorcs get something too. I think every class should have atleast one skill they can rely on for damage (even if its stam or magika)
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  • iamnotweakrwb17_ESO
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    Seriously.. stop putting templars into the instant damage category. So tired of reading jabs being called instant. It's one of the more useless abilities in the game. Ok for PvE but complete garbage for PvP. Templars have nothing. No proper burst. No good sustain. There damage is either dots , a channel, hard casted or does so little damage its not even worth casting.



  • PainfulFAFA
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    Asmael wrote: »
    How does my SnB / 2H stam DK feel? Pretty well.

    How does my 2H / SnB sorc feel? Pretty well.

    Thanks for asking.

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    On a more serious note, could people seriously stop trying to be stamblade? It's pretty obvious everyone want their easy spammable button when they write "spammable burst DPS", not only that, but the said ability you ask for works EXACTLY the same way as Ransack / Heroic Slash.
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Sorcerer doesn't have ANY instant damage attacks actually :tongue: And I do feel quite strongly about it but oh well. You adapt.

    Tangling webs for magicka sorc. As for stam sorc...

    Like I said: people want their own Surprise attack. Tell me what would be the point of WB, Ransack, Flurry and Heroic Slash if all classes had everything? What would be the point of weapons at all?

    Perhaps a stam morph of crystal shards? You know, one that procs off stamina based abilities and works like a punch? Imagine that...
    At least stam DKs have stamina based DoTs and a nice Ulti that does Physical Dmg.
    Anyways, its not that stam DKs, or Stam sorcs want a spammable ability but we want to be on par too. 90% of ESO atm is playing a NB because its the easiest class to play and they have everything... mobility, survivability, escape, burst, ccs, gap closers, all built into their class.

    zos needs an update/patch that is focused on balancing classes because the current state of the game is magicka sorc or stam NB or gtfo lol.
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  • Khaos_Bane
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    Sorc. it's not weird at all, I don't think they need any Stamina morphs. It just doesn't suit the class. If people want to play a stam sorc with what they have then all the power to 'em and i respect them for taking that challenge. but i do think the class should remain a magicka dominant class. just my opinion.

    DK's on the other hand. it's weird as hell. I mean they have the only physical ultimate in the entire game and yet so few stam morphs, that's really odd.
    Asmael wrote: »
    On a more serious note, could people seriously stop trying to be stamblade? It's pretty obvious everyone want their easy spammable button when they write "spammable burst DPS", not only that, but the said ability you ask for works EXACTLY the same way as Ransack / Heroic Slash.


    I don't want. and that's why i main a sorc and not an NB ;)

    Of course it suits the class, your statement makes no sense. Have you played MA?

  • Tamanous
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    Well played stam sorcs and DKs don't seem to be complaining.
  • Heindrich
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    I'm fine with it. All classes should not have access to the same functionalities.
  • Brrrofski
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    Asmael wrote: »
    How does my SnB / 2H stam DK feel? Pretty well.

    How does my 2H / SnB sorc feel? Pretty well.

    Thanks for asking.

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    On a more serious note, could people seriously stop trying to be stamblade? It's pretty obvious everyone want their easy spammable button when they write "spammable burst DPS", not only that, but the said ability you ask for works EXACTLY the same way as Ransack / Heroic Slash.
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Sorcerer doesn't have ANY instant damage attacks actually :tongue: And I do feel quite strongly about it but oh well. You adapt.

    Tangling webs for magicka sorc. As for stam sorc...

    Like I said: people want their own Surprise attack. Tell me what would be the point of WB, Ransack, Flurry and Heroic Slash if all classes had everything? What would be the point of weapons at all?

    There is no point to flurry anyway. I have never ever taken full damage from it. Unless the last part of it hits, it's unless. Ransack and heroic slash are not really doing any damage to me either in all fairness... Unless you're on of the few that can properly do the bash animation cancel. But barely anyone does it yet on xbox
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    that are based off Stamina.

    Templar > Biting Jabs (not really instant)
    Nightblade > Surprise Attack
    Sorcerer > Wrecking Blow (lel)
    Dragonknight > Wrecking Blow (lel)

    Biting Jabs not really instant? NOT REALLY? lolololol i call this class racism since biting jabs are like the worst skill one could use, leaves you open to everything, low damage, you can't do anything or else it gets canceled. So yeah Templar would need it more. kk thx bb

    Jabs is absolutely fine.

    It does good damage and interrupts. Nothing wrong with it. I wish my stam Sorc and stam Dk had an alternative to wrecking blow. No class skills and dual wield sucks, so wrecking blow spam it is.

    Until they nerf that because idiots can't learn how to block or roll dodge
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    It is not so bad that Sorcs and DKs do not have stamina instant hit skills because Weapon lines are very strong now. You can use 1h/s combo, light attack - ransank - bash or mighty WB.

    When ZoS nerf them then these 2 classes will need another skill.

    P.S If DK's flame whip is converted to stamina with flame damage, I doubt that a lot of players will use it in PvP cause it wont synergize with the mighty passive.
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  • Frawr
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    they dont need instant damage stam skills. Players asking for these are making the game more and more generic.

    DKs should instead be having existing class skills un-nerfed (inhale, dragon blood etc)
  • Magdalina
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    Asmael wrote: »
    Magdalina wrote: »
    Sorcerer doesn't have ANY instant damage attacks actually :tongue: And I do feel quite strongly about it but oh well. You adapt.

    Tangling webs for magicka sorc. As for stam sorc...

    Like I said: people want their own Surprise attack. Tell me what would be the point of WB, Ransack, Flurry and Heroic Slash if all classes had everything? What would be the point of weapons at all?

    Tangling webs isn't a sorc skill. Neither is Crushing Shock which I weave myself.
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    Well, I personally wouldn't play a Stam Sorc or Stam Templar, but I do believe that Sorcs and DK's need a proper damage ability that can be morphed into Stamina.
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  • Holycannoli
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    Sorc. it's not weird at all, I don't think they need any Stamina morphs. It just doesn't suit the class. If people want to play a stam sorc with what they have then all the power to 'em and i respect them for taking that challenge. but i do think the class should remain a magicka dominant class. just my opinion.

    DK's on the other hand. it's weird as hell. I mean they have the only physical ultimate in the entire game and yet so few stam morphs, that's really odd.
    Asmael wrote: »
    On a more serious note, could people seriously stop trying to be stamblade? It's pretty obvious everyone want their easy spammable button when they write "spammable burst DPS", not only that, but the said ability you ask for works EXACTLY the same way as Ransack / Heroic Slash.


    I don't want. and that's why i main a sorc and not an NB ;)

    I don't think any class should be magicka or stamina. I think each one should have useful magicka and stamina skills so you can choose which ones you want.

    For sorc what about summoning daedra for magicka users and summoning bound weapons for stamina users?

    All ZOS has to do is add more morphs for class skills so each one has a magicka and stamina variant. It's not hard to do and I can bet the community can come up with some great ones.
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  • Destruent
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    Tamanous wrote: »
    Well played stam sorcs and DKs don't seem to be complaining.

    Sure....bc they know how to use their class/weapon skills ^^

    PS: biting Jabs is the worst of all Stam abilities...you get more dps when using weapon abilities (wb/rapid strikes with mealstrome weapons)....
    Edited by Destruent on December 30, 2015 12:20PM
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    With a misleading title like that you should become a journalist ;) or internet troll :)
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  • Junkogen
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    It seems like many people want every class to be essentially the same. That's what all these threads are really about. Homogenization of the classes.
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    do not make DKs and sorcs into samey dps classes as nightblades.

    Give DKs more survivability back in their class trees.
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    Tamanous wrote: »
    Well played stam sorcs and DKs don't seem to be complaining.

    We are complaining alright it's just development ignores us so why bother
    Edited by found1779 on December 30, 2015 2:20PM
  • Artjuh90
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    that are based off Stamina.

    Templar > Biting Jabs (not really instant)
    Nightblade > Surprise Attack
    Sorcerer > Wrecking Blow (lel)
    Dragonknight > Wrecking Blow (lel)

    crystal frags? it has 35 % chance to be instant.
    the execute of a sorc is instant.
    can't tell more because i don't really play sorc mine is just lvl 14 :P
    and if you call WB instant frags is always instant
    Edited by Artjuh90 on December 30, 2015 2:18PM
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