Being Able to escape a meteor
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ralonasan✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »More fun just to reflect and kill you with your own meteor via Scales!
More fun to reflect your reflect and kill you.
If you don't pop detect pot before you meteor a NB it's your own fault he cloaked it.
Been there done that but what's it got to do with a NB?
My DK would use Caltrops on a NB more effective.
I don't even use meteor lag skill, if I did it would be Ice Comet for the snare.
First mistake. Not reading why were talking about reflect and block.
Second mistake. Using ice comet as a DK lolololololTequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »More fun just to reflect and kill you with your own meteor via Scales!
More fun to reflect your reflect and kill you.
If you don't pop detect pot before you meteor a NB it's your own fault he cloaked it.
Been there done that but what's it got to do with a NB?
My DK would use Caltrops on a NB more effective.
I don't even use meteor lag skill, if I did it would be Ice Comet for the snare.
First mistake. Not reading why were talking about reflect and block.
Second mistake. Using ice comet as a DK lololololol
I run NB as main so your mistake I know what works against me and that's a snare.
Read carefully yourself I said I did not use meteor but would use IC if I did implying I don't.
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NightRibon23444 wrote: »Or any damage being given to the enemy should not happen.
Dont change thread title and original post, except for spelling errors..
You make the others who posted in your thread seem like they are talking off topic.
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✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »More fun just to reflect and kill you with your own meteor via Scales!
More fun to reflect your reflect and kill you.
If you don't pop detect pot before you meteor a NB it's your own fault he cloaked it.
Been there done that but what's it got to do with a NB?
My DK would use Caltrops on a NB more effective.
I don't even use meteor lag skill, if I did it would be Ice Comet for the snare.
First mistake. Not reading why were talking about reflect and block.
Second mistake. Using ice comet as a DK lolololololTequilaFire wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »More fun just to reflect and kill you with your own meteor via Scales!
More fun to reflect your reflect and kill you.
If you don't pop detect pot before you meteor a NB it's your own fault he cloaked it.
Been there done that but what's it got to do with a NB?
My DK would use Caltrops on a NB more effective.
I don't even use meteor lag skill, if I did it would be Ice Comet for the snare.
First mistake. Not reading why were talking about reflect and block.
Second mistake. Using ice comet as a DK lololololol
I run NB as main so your mistake I know what works against me and that's a snare.
Read carefully yourself I said I did not use meteor but would use IC if I did implying I don't.
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Your post says DK. Point stands.
AhemMy DK would use Caltrops on a NB more effective.
I don't even use meteor lag skill, if I did it would be Ice Comet for the snare.
It doesn't but you can have a cookie anyway.
Edited by TequilaFire on December 29, 2015 9:54PM0 -
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Maybe that sentence wasn't too clear. Again, unless I missed something in a recent patch, AoE abilities (such as Meteor) still affect the invisible.NightRibon23444 wrote: »Visibility Of what ever perk should not stop them from taking damage. If I pop my meteor and you turn clocked or whatever you what to call it, the meteor should hit and bring you out of clock. Not be able to run.
Since meteor is a ranged AoE, I have time to move from it's path. If I were to remain stationary in your meteor's impact zone while invisible (whether it be from an ability or a potion) I would take damage. Any damage taken disrupts invisibility. Period.
Well I'd see it as an "auto aim argument," but my velocity argument is the unseen bridge between the auto aim feature and cloak's immunity to targeted attacks.Since bolt escape doesn't make me immune to damage I see no reason why cloak should either.
Your velocity argument makes no sense since bolt, which is actually predicated on changing ones velocity to escape attacks, does not protect you from projectile or melee strikes at all.
Being invisible doesn't change your velocity somehow you just become invisible. It isn't meant to just let you evaporate from combat - if my opponent is invisible in front of me, if I hit the space they are still in, they are still hit.
The reason cloak should make you immune to targeted abilities is due to the existence of auto aim. If this game did not use auto aim for light attacks, heavy attacks, and any ability that requires a target lock to activate, then I would have to manually change my velocity to dodge impending attacks, which would be perfectly fine. Then and only then would I agree that immunity to targeted attacks makes no sense, but that isn't the case.
If anything, you've made me aware that Bolt Escape should be granted the same immunities.
You do realize that Meteor is NOT a ranged aoe. That after effects after it lands becomes an aoe, but not the meteor itself. You still need to target something to cast Meteor.Ps4 Na Daggerfall
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✭NightRibon23444 wrote: »NightRibon23444 wrote: »Or any damage being given to the enemy should not happen.
Dont change thread title and original post, except for spelling errors..
You make the others who posted in your thread seem like they are talking off topic.
It's my thread. I will change it if I want too.
Yep.. and you loose serious credibility points.. For example.. I will now laugh at and blow off any opinions you offer as fluff, because you will change your post in 20 min.
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Try reading the entire thread first, next time.
Maybe that sentence wasn't too clear. Again, unless I missed something in a recent patch, AoE abilities (such as Meteor) still affect the invisible.NightRibon23444 wrote: »Visibility Of what ever perk should not stop them from taking damage. If I pop my meteor and you turn clocked or whatever you what to call it, the meteor should hit and bring you out of clock. Not be able to run.
Since meteor is a ranged AoE, I have time to move from it's path. If I were to remain stationary in your meteor's impact zone while invisible (whether it be from an ability or a potion) I would take damage. Any damage taken disrupts invisibility. Period.
Well I'd see it as an "auto aim argument," but my velocity argument is the unseen bridge between the auto aim feature and cloak's immunity to targeted attacks.Since bolt escape doesn't make me immune to damage I see no reason why cloak should either.
Your velocity argument makes no sense since bolt, which is actually predicated on changing ones velocity to escape attacks, does not protect you from projectile or melee strikes at all.
Being invisible doesn't change your velocity somehow you just become invisible. It isn't meant to just let you evaporate from combat - if my opponent is invisible in front of me, if I hit the space they are still in, they are still hit.
The reason cloak should make you immune to targeted abilities is due to the existence of auto aim. If this game did not use auto aim for light attacks, heavy attacks, and any ability that requires a target lock to activate, then I would have to manually change my velocity to dodge impending attacks, which would be perfectly fine. Then and only then would I agree that immunity to targeted attacks makes no sense, but that isn't the case.
If anything, you've made me aware that Bolt Escape should be granted the same immunities.
You do realize that Meteor is NOT a ranged aoe. That after effects after it lands becomes an aoe, but not the meteor itself. You still need to target something to cast Meteor.NightRibon23444 wrote: »Or any damage being given to the enemy should not happen.
Well, I see you've removed any reference to invisibility from your title and original post. Since your concern now seems focused on meteor, I had to look up the specifics of that ability as I've never cared to use it.
I had thought it was a simple aim and drop AoE, but it turns out to be a single target ability, which falls prey to the aforementioned auto aim mechanic and the unfortunate workaround ZOS has implemented to make cloak functional.
So, the solution is simple. You should be lobbying to change meteor's required target lock deployment to an aim and drop AoE which will hit the invisible should they remain in it's blast radius. This should provide more satisfying results than complaining about a game mechanic that has no foreseeable alternative. It's not like they can remove auto aim and track every pc/npc location, projectile path, and melee hit zone, especially with all the lag at present.Son Azoth | Breton Nightblade
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