What passives as a dual wield magicka build?

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Do i just take the last duel weild passive and ignore the rest? It looks like so, does the increase offhand wpn dmg increase the dmg of the actual weapon or just wpn dmg overall?

medieval_TOG · December 2015

Magicka build? Is there such a thing these days?

Septimus_Magna · December 2015

Just the last DW passive for magicka builds.

Flameheart · December 2015

medieval_TOG wrote: »

Magicka build? Is there such a thing these days?

In PvE all the time because there magicka builds are king.

Anzriel · December 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Do i just take the last duel weild passive and ignore the rest? It looks like so, does the increase offhand wpn dmg increase the dmg of the actual weapon or just wpn dmg overall?

It's just a % damage increase of your skills. Your weaves with duel wield will hit like a noodle regardless. Depending on the class you'll be doing it when you'll be just spamming skills like sap essence, or on your bar where you have liquid lightning/boundless storm, etc.

Lenikus · December 2015

When lv 50 at dw, i'd say you need the Twin Blade and blunt, and since you're actually using dw, you can use that Ruffian passive that boosts your damage against off balance enemies as well. There's another that increses offhand dmg, but i'm not sure if that accounts for the actual damage from skills or just wep dmg, or spell dmg, for that matter.
Either way, Twin Blade and Blunt, for the 5% extra, and Ruffian for the 10% extra against off-balance.

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Lenikus wrote: »

When lv 50 at dw, i'd say you need the Twin Blade and blunt, and since you're actually using dw, you can use that Ruffian passive that boosts your damage against off balance enemies as well. There's another that increses offhand dmg, but i'm not sure if that accounts for the actual damage from skills or just wep dmg, or spell dmg, for that matter.
Either way, Twin Blade and Blunt, for the 5% extra, and Ruffian for the 10% extra against off-balance.

isn't ruffian while using duel wield attacks?

Lenikus · December 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

isn't ruffian while using duel wield attacks?

I would agree, but it did kinda work at some point, i didn't test any dw magicka stuff for a while (resto staff ftw) so i can't say '-'

# Edit
There ↓ Mystery solved. Just blade 'n blunt.

ADarklore · December 2015

If you read the descriptions, most passives ONLY apply to actually using the weapon or weapon abilities, all except for the last one, Blade and Blunt. So if you never use your weapon or weapon abilities, then you only need the last one... any of the others would be a waste of SP.

Skiserony · December 2015

Well, because I have too many skillpoints I also unlocked the increase offhand weapon damage, just so light attacks gets like a minor increase in damage. It's almost ging to do nothing, but why not if you have too many skill points right?

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Skiserony wrote: »

Well, because I have too many skillpoints I also unlocked the increase offhand weapon damage, just so light attacks gets like a minor increase in damage. It's almost ging to do nothing, but why not if you have too many skill points right?

This is for an alt so sadly skill points are in high demand

Skiserony · December 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

Well, because I have too many skillpoints I also unlocked the increase offhand weapon damage, just so light attacks gets like a minor increase in damage. It's almost ging to do nothing, but why not if you have too many skill points right?

This is for an alt so sadly skill points are in high demand

Then I would not bother spending skill points in this skill line but the last one.

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Skiserony wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

Well, because I have too many skillpoints I also unlocked the increase offhand weapon damage, just so light attacks gets like a minor increase in damage. It's almost ging to do nothing, but why not if you have too many skill points right?

This is for an alt so sadly skill points are in high demand

Then I would not bother spending skill points in this skill line but the last one.

It's taking a while leveling it up in pvp xD

Skiserony · December 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Skiserony wrote: »

Well, because I have too many skillpoints I also unlocked the increase offhand weapon damage, just so light attacks gets like a minor increase in damage. It's almost ging to do nothing, but why not if you have too many skill points right?

This is for an alt so sadly skill points are in high demand

Then I would not bother spending skill points in this skill line but the last one.

It's taking a while leveling it up in pvp xD

I know, make sure if you turn any kind of quest or capturing a keep that you're on your DW bar. Make sure you get all the xp on your DW bar then it'll go a bit faster. It can take a while indeed.

Nifty2g · December 2015

seems people aren't really responding

do this if you are a sorc (overload bar) , nb (aoe and execute) or templar (main dps)

twinblade and blunt directly impacts your tooltip damage and your overall spell damage. i believe no other passives work other than that.

put a poison enchant and an absorb magic enchant on your swords and your weaves will hit pretty hard, then again only a templar weaves the other classes don't

Arkraptor · December 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

twinblade and blunt directly impacts your tooltip damage and your overall spell damage. i believe no other passives work other than that.

This is changed back with Orsinium. It no longer increase spell damage (and I don't think it affects tooltip damage either). It's now a straight 5% outgoing damage increase modifier, similar to 2h's Heavy Weapons passive. This is actually better than increasing spell damage, as it will also apply to the damage contribution from max magicka.

As for the OP's question, yes, you just need Twin, Blade and Blunt as magicka build.

Nifty2g · December 2015

Arkraptor wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

twinblade and blunt directly impacts your tooltip damage and your overall spell damage. i believe no other passives work other than that.

This is changed back with Orsinium. It no longer increase spell damage (and I don't think it affects tooltip damage either). It's now a straight 5% outgoing damage increase modifier, similar to 2h's Heavy Weapons passive. This is actually better than increasing spell damage, as it will also apply to the damage contribution from max magicka.

As for the OP's question, yes, you just need Twin, Blade and Blunt as magicka build.

What lol put dual on then watch your Spell dame increase as well as tooltip

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

Arkraptor wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

twinblade and blunt directly impacts your tooltip damage and your overall spell damage. i believe no other passives work other than that.

This is changed back with Orsinium. It no longer increase spell damage (and I don't think it affects tooltip damage either). It's now a straight 5% outgoing damage increase modifier, similar to 2h's Heavy Weapons passive. This is actually better than increasing spell damage, as it will also apply to the damage contribution from max magicka.

As for the OP's question, yes, you just need Twin, Blade and Blunt as magicka build.

What lol put dual on then watch your Spell dame increase as well as tooltip

2 purple v15 swords gives me 600 more spell dmg buffed than my purple v16 desto staff.

I don't even have the passive yet either/

Arkraptor · December 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

Arkraptor wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

twinblade and blunt directly impacts your tooltip damage and your overall spell damage. i believe no other passives work other than that.

This is changed back with Orsinium. It no longer increase spell damage (and I don't think it affects tooltip damage either). It's now a straight 5% outgoing damage increase modifier, similar to 2h's Heavy Weapons passive. This is actually better than increasing spell damage, as it will also apply to the damage contribution from max magicka.

As for the OP's question, yes, you just need Twin, Blade and Blunt as magicka build.

What lol put dual on then watch your Spell dame increase as well as tooltip

Obviously putting a dual will increase your spell damage, but having the passives do not increase the spell damage further (it used to during IC patch). The passive is still necessary, that 5% boost is actually even better now -- this was the reason why 2h greatsword was so popular during IC patch, because it offers straight 5% boost to damage instead of 5% boost to spell damage that dw gave.