I thought the purpose of dungeons were gear and undaunted? I never tried to grind just mobs before (seems stupid imo) Cyrodiil repeatable quests seem way faster and less stupid.

Lol . I was sure that this thread was going to be a first month necro. Yes everybody knows that dungeon EXP is pathetic and people were a lot more vocal about this in the early days. It was also one of the issues that people realized that ZOS doesn't give a damn.

I would be all for instanced dungeons offering more exp or at least equal to other sources.

What if individual mobs didnt give exp or loot in the instanced dungeons but each killed would cause the bosses to give more exp and loot?

Another daily might do the trick, at least then there'd be three dungeon quests providing exp in addition to what we get inside the dungeon.

Agree ! In my experience, XP in anything dungeon / trial related (with the exception of DSA) is close to zero. Never understood why it was designed that way.

It a little bit better if the dungeon is quick and a daily pledge... but if not... :-(

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84xp per normal mob in a group dungeon versus 414xp per normal mob in the open world - this at VR3. That's a difference of almost 500% better xp in the open world.

PvE character progression via dungeoning is a common, accepted option for players in most (if not all) relevant MMOs. What is the rationale for dissuading players from progressing via dungeons? To keep the already diminutive pool of players who bother with dungeons (especially pre-vet) from getting larger? To keep group finder from being used more, so that it actually might have enough players using it to actually be worth using.

/boggle.

I love this game, but some design choices just make me want to kick a can.

It's because wayrest sewers used to be the best power grind spot in the game. ZOS despises grinding because they can't sell as many xp scrolls, so they nerfed all group dungeon mob xp with the release of Imperial City.

Many people have suggested, quite reasonably IMHO, that to prevent grinding mobs in dungeons the bulk of the XP should be given by bosses, or even by the last boss. That would have been a better fix, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with it.

I dunno, farming for Laurels since thues day has gotten me a VR level. Took me longer than IC for the previous level, but it wasn't that bad.

Maybe they want people out in the world instead of in instances. They don't want it to be like WoW, with everyone sitting in town waiting for the dungeons to pop while they level.

I'm not saying it's a good or bad design as it is now. Probably could be implemented better than it is, though. I do agree that rewards are pretty bad on the whole. The only reason I can see for running dungeons is Undaunted skills and a couple of pieces of monster gear with insanely bad rng.

Well they had it right before they nerfed quests exp, they nerfed pve exp so much its not worth doing it, and it makes one lose intrest in doing them and I find I want to do them and yet the exp I get is so very weak that its better to do other things like go to cyridill for exp because quests there were never nerfed, and give much higher exp, now come on really.
This is one of the things that really angered me when they did it, now if they change it all back if they want people to quest not grind they will have to change it back to the way it was in good exp for pve, questing thats the only way you will stop grinding and they really dislike grinding from what I understand they nerf every spot thats found for it, and I don't like to grind either I rather quest and get rewarded for it.

Another thing ,its because of the exp pots they put in if they had left exp all alone, then adding them later, then people like me would be more willing to buy them now, to buy something to give like exp the way it was before they did all the nerfs to quest exp, and that was before the justice system, which made questing fun! I will buy otherstuff maybe one tiem I will buy exp pot but I think I might stay away from exp pots til they fix pve and make all pve zones good for leveling with pve quests. Well, pay to win this game might not be but the exp pot was well intended way before btp, I know this and so do others I don't blame them they need money but they messed up, they should not have changed exp other then the lockpicking they changed that exp that was one of the things that alone would have been fine. But not quest exp

Besides people hate having to grind to get vet ranks, its one thing that drives players away, now they really need to buff questing vet levels 850000, per one now for quest they need to give like 150000 exp away, or 100000 or 50000, for quests, all quests, in vet zones this would make it where people would not be going on non stop forced grind to get anything done.
Otherwise I am happy with what they have done with the game still waiting for more charater slots and charater custimzation. Just those things is what drives me bonkers. That and pve cyrdill is forced craglorn like content which annoys me.