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Why Templars are the worst designed class in ESO
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Are Templars still trash?
Slightly generalized, but directly compared to...well...pretty much everything else in the game, Yes.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?0 -
EgoRush✭✭✭✭Are Templars still trash?
PvE/PvP as healers nope. PvE as magicka DD they can be pretty decent now. PvP magicka is okay and workable but lots of buggy skills and still lacking in mobility if non-vamp. PvP/PvE as stamina is an utter joke unfortunately.Server: EU Pact
Guild: Hodor (PvE - www.hodor-guild.eu), Chimaira (PvE)
Character: Oriantha (Templar Healer), Zelda's Inferno (Dragonknight Tank), The Lumen Sage (Stamina Sorcerer DD), The Umbra Witch (Magicka Nightblade DD), Flirts-With-Boys (Stamina Nightblade DD), Oriantha Ellesidil (Magicka Sorcerer DD/healer), Wariantha (Magicka Warden in the making)
Current vMA score (Templar): Pending return to game
World Record for all trials pre-Thieves Guild
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj clear
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj speed run clear
Returning to the game for Morrowind1 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh don't wait, even though most people now only consider Templars as a healer we have more incoming Templar nerfs coming to PvP thanks to the "We Are ESO" podcast. Next up is unpurgable siege damage debuffs and healing large groups AP diminishing returns, then after that is unpurgable siege fire damage. Then after that is healing caps, and somewhere in between all that they will be buffing Nightblades some more. And this will be done all for the "We Are ESO" Twitch streamers who will be getting more footage of pwning people in Cyrodil and 1vsX plays due to the lack of healers in Cyrodil. Well if the 1% is happy, then ZOS is happy right? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambertEdited by Justice31st on December 25, 2015 6:57PM"The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
EgoRush✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Oh don't wait, even though most people now only consider Templars as a healer we have more incoming Templar nerfs coming to PvP thanks to the "We Are ESO" podcast. Next up is unpurgable siege damage debuffs and healing large groups AP diminishing returns, then after that is unpurgable siege fire damage. Then after that is healing caps, and somewhere in between all that they will be buffing Nightblades some more. And this will be done all for the "We Are ESO" Twitch streamers who will be getting more footage of pwning people in Cyrodil and 1vsX plays due to the lack of healers in Cyrodil. Well if the 1% is happy, then ZOS is happy right? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert
I'm thinking I'll become a streamer for Templars and try to boost our popularity to save the class. Guest star sometime maybe?Server: EU Pact
Guild: Hodor (PvE - www.hodor-guild.eu), Chimaira (PvE)
Character: Oriantha (Templar Healer), Zelda's Inferno (Dragonknight Tank), The Lumen Sage (Stamina Sorcerer DD), The Umbra Witch (Magicka Nightblade DD), Flirts-With-Boys (Stamina Nightblade DD), Oriantha Ellesidil (Magicka Sorcerer DD/healer), Wariantha (Magicka Warden in the making)
Current vMA score (Templar): Pending return to game
World Record for all trials pre-Thieves Guild
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj clear
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj speed run clear
Returning to the game for Morrowind1 -
Justice31st✭✭✭✭✭
✭Justice31st wrote: »Oh don't wait, even though most people now only consider Templars as a healer we have more incoming Templar nerfs coming to PvP thanks to the "We Are ESO" podcast. Next up is unpurgable siege damage debuffs and healing large groups AP diminishing returns, then after that is unpurgable siege fire damage. Then after that is healing caps, and somewhere in between all that they will be buffing Nightblades some more. And this will be done all for the "We Are ESO" Twitch streamers who will be getting more footage of pwning people in Cyrodil and 1vsX plays due to the lack of healers in Cyrodil. Well if the 1% is happy, then ZOS is happy right? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert
I'm thinking I'll become a streamer for Templars and try to boost our popularity to save the class. Guest star sometime maybe?
No one wants to view a healer on Twitch unfortunately."The more you know who you are, and what you want, the less you let things upset you."1 -
EgoRush✭✭✭✭Justice31st wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Oh don't wait, even though most people now only consider Templars as a healer we have more incoming Templar nerfs coming to PvP thanks to the "We Are ESO" podcast. Next up is unpurgable siege damage debuffs and healing large groups AP diminishing returns, then after that is unpurgable siege fire damage. Then after that is healing caps, and somewhere in between all that they will be buffing Nightblades some more. And this will be done all for the "We Are ESO" Twitch streamers who will be getting more footage of pwning people in Cyrodil and 1vsX plays due to the lack of healers in Cyrodil. Well if the 1% is happy, then ZOS is happy right? @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_RichLambert
I'm thinking I'll become a streamer for Templars and try to boost our popularity to save the class. Guest star sometime maybe?
No one wants to view a healer on Twitch unfortunately.
I'm no healer.Server: EU Pact
Guild: Hodor (PvE - www.hodor-guild.eu), Chimaira (PvE)
Character: Oriantha (Templar Healer), Zelda's Inferno (Dragonknight Tank), The Lumen Sage (Stamina Sorcerer DD), The Umbra Witch (Magicka Nightblade DD), Flirts-With-Boys (Stamina Nightblade DD), Oriantha Ellesidil (Magicka Sorcerer DD/healer), Wariantha (Magicka Warden in the making)
Current vMA score (Templar): Pending return to game
World Record for all trials pre-Thieves Guild
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj clear
World first V16 Maw of Lorkhaj speed run clear
Returning to the game for Morrowind0 -
Abob✭✭✭After long term PvP with Sorcerer and a little bit of NB, i have now turned to my templar. A bit of PvE but primarily PvP.
I must ask this... How and why do people find templars underpowered? My personal experience first-hand leads me to believe the opposite. Only class giving me a hard time is a magicka Nightblade, but only due to the constant cloaking, but if i am close enough i don't let him cloak as my Sweep interrupts any attempt at cloaking as i am upclose in his face not giving any quarter.
Sorcerers? Having a sorc myself i know all their weaknesses and memorized almost any setups, rotations and know the best counters. By speccing all out magicka damage, my Jesus beam hits so hard it goes through repeatedly stacked shields and even healing ward. Makes them panic, spam shields, and jesus beam eats them away and he can't receive any heals from the ward. The trick is to burn their stamina out first and foremost with toppling charge and total dark, after the 3 CC's it's easy meat.
I can honestly say, i am enjoying my Magicka Templar much more than i did with my sorcerer.. Haven't touched the poor guy for weeks now.
I can see why people would assume templars are weak, when i meet other magicka templars with even decent pvp rank, well.. I haven't met one who hasn't died by my hand, so does that mean templars are weak? "Oh that guy just beat me so fast, but of course he is playing a EZMODE class called templ.... Oh wait..." More like a l2p issue to me.
I do however have some concerns about skill bugs, such as toppling charge often not working, heals being unresponsive at times, but that is not a inherent issue with the class itself, bugs are just bugs.
When you successfully do your first 1 vs 5 encounter on a templar, i don't think you will be calling them weak anymore...
Seen some templars singlehandedly wreck small raids, apart from a sorcerer or a emperor, no other classes can do that. NB lacks sustain and utility, DK lacks DPS.
What do you recommend against stamina DK?0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭i would vote stam NB as worst class.
but then again im more a PvE players. while i do admit in PvP is where it shines. it SHOULD shine in PvP. because the design of the nightblade is a assassin class.when im on my templar or dk i can clear out delves and dungeon way beter then on my NB. my nightblade stuggles with some world bosses because it doesn't have a healing (i'm a PvE player so no vigor). can't really tell how a sorcerer is cause it's just lvl 15 but as how i see in now stam NB is the worst class. magicka has way more surviabilty only heal stam NB has in PvE content in mark which i do need to kill a opponent. and rally isn't really a heal, it's a nice tick but not that usefull vs bosses because they hit way harder then the 2 second tick0
