Maelstrom arena is the worst experience i've ever had gaming

Catblade · December 2015

30k dmg in ten seconds all in AOE form. Why is this fun? Lazy content can't come up with a better mechanic for literally every dungeon except AOE. Honestly I'm glad you put out this sort of content because it lets me know you don't have a clue what you're doing and i should spend my money elsewhere.

silky_soft · December 2015

Was playing eve online in 00 one time. I followed through while I was running from some hostile in my best ratting ship. Lost a lot that day. My ship was everywhere.

Catblade · December 2015

silky_soft wrote: »

Was playing eve online in 00 one time. I followed through while I was running from some hostile in my best ratting ship. Lost a lot that day. My ship was everywhere.

Yeah i heard that game was very frustrating. I just don't get why you would want to be miserable gaming. I used to have fun gaming and honestly since i've picked up ESO i've lost that. So much potential but all i seem to do is beat my fists against the wall. I think it's going to push me away from gaming entirely I may as well go take up baseball

Casering · December 2015

I heard maelstrom is pretty sucky that 5 hours just seems to much for 1 session let alone one dungeon, as for that ship game yeah sounds crap same with minecraft rly the P2W is insane and in most cases you lose everything on death I quit that awhile back for that reason im waiting for maelstrom to be tuned or maybe get op enough to do it but im not doing it often that's for sure.

tangy.citrus · December 2015

watch videos of people doing it in the same class as you. See how they are doing it and try to mimic it while tweaking the build a little if you want. Its not too hard, it can take some time the first few tries but after that you will be glad you put the time into learning it and completing.

Catblade · December 2015

tangy.citrus wrote: »

watch videos of people doing it in the same class as you. See how they are doing it and try to mimic it while tweaking the build a little if you want. Its not too hard, it can take some time the first few tries but after that you will be glad you put the time into learning it and completing.

Yeah I've tried and tried. I guess i just have "dumb hands" it was a big deal when i was learning to write as a child something wrong with my motor skills. I've learned to do most things but I just suck at others. Just wish it wasn't so punishing. I've been able to adapt to many other games even dark souls.

Nifty2g · December 2015

what stage and where did this happen?

Catblade · December 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

what stage and where did this happen?

Stage 2 with all the spinning blades and the three dwemer bosses. Even activating the switches and standing in the path of only one spinning blade didn't help me the dwemer boss spun around and hit me for 20k after the blades 10k. Running magika NB mainly Funnel health as dps+heals , harness magika, healing ward refreshing path. Double take and crippling grasp so i can get moving. I'm getting so smashed i'm thinking of taking a hammer to my console and PC too just for good measure. I just don't understand the leap in difficulty i was able to do other trials.

Wollust · December 2015

Well, avoiding the dwemer spin thingy is usually not that hard.. As long as you keep cripple up you should be able to get away in time because of the speed buff.
I run maelstrom with 16.6k health on my magicka NB, use harness and don't use any switches on the second stage. Funnel should be enough to outheal the damage of the spinning blades usually. Just make sure to kite your enemies properly instead of just standing still and taking it to the face.
In the end it's just a l2p issue, not in a negative sense though. It's tough, but after some practice you can do it easily.

TotterTates · December 2015

Putting CP into Thick Skinned helped me when I was learning stage 2... but nifty will have better suggestions for you. I'm not extremely knowledgeable about NBs.

tangy.citrus · December 2015

Mag NB vma

22:00 is where the round 2 is at. He runs resto on front bar for emergency bubbles, and its probably the best way to do it on mag nb tbh. You may not have the same dmg as him, but try it out the way hes doing it a few times and see how it works for you.

Catblade · December 2015

Honestly no part of learning it will make it fun or worth doing. It's a terrible experience 100% no part of it is fun. I game FOR FUN not sure why anyone else would bother to game for any other reason. And i got to tell you nothing will make this fun. Same with IC just a trash experience. Not sure why the game is heading in a direction where fun is last in line. honestly who ever in their life once picked up an MMO and said "OOOOOOH i'd love to see a solo arena in this" or "know what would be fun? If we could pvp in the middle of this boss fight and lose currency"

Yattaq · December 2015

Maelstrom is one of best experiences I've had gaming.

Wollust · December 2015

Catblade wrote: »

Honestly no part of learning it will make it fun or worth doing. It's a terrible experience 100% no part of it is fun. I game FOR FUN not sure why anyone else would bother to game for any other reason. And i got to tell you nothing will make this fun. Same with IC just a trash experience. Not sure why the game is heading in a direction where fun is last in line. honestly who ever in their life once picked up an MMO and said "OOOOOOH i'd love to see a solo arena in this" or "know what would be fun? If we could pvp in the middle of this boss fight and lose currency"

It might not be fun for you, but maybe for others. Ever thought about it? Not everyone shares the same preferences.

Septimus_Magna · December 2015

Yattaq wrote: »

Maelstrom is one of best experiences I've had gaming.

Agreed, assuming you mean vet Maelstrom Arena.

The challenging content in this game can be counted on one hand.

@Catblade If you think Stage 2 is hard wait until you get to Stage 6 and 7, both are real rage-quit triggers.

forgottengd · December 2015

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Agreed, assuming you mean vet Maelstrom Arena.

The challenging content in this game can be counted on one hand.

@Catblade If you think Stage 2 is hard wait until you get to Stage 6 and 7, both are real rage-quit triggers.

I think Stage 6 or 7 not so hard. For me as sorc stage 5 and 9 more harder.

Heindrich · December 2015

I really enjoyed the challenge of vMA and I think it's the best PvE content they have made so far and I applaud zos for not caving (on this occasion) to lazy, bad and self-entitled players who demands everything without putting in the effort to deserve it.

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Shader_Shibes · December 2015

I find vma a chore tbh. I've done it several times now with best score of just over 420k, but I need to motivate myself a lot to go in and do it. If I had the inferno staff already, I really wouldn't bother.

Hand_Bacon · December 2015

Its a frustrating bleep bleep bleep piece of bleep bleep bleep.

Until I beat it.

At that point, it will be a glorious achievement on my behalf and a wonderful work of game design by ZOS.

...just keepin' it real.

Frenkthevile · December 2015

Heindrich wrote: »

I really enjoyed the challenge of vMA and I think it's the best PvE content they have made so far and I applaud zos for not caving (on this occasion) to lazy, bad and self-entitled players who demands everything without putting in the effort to deserve it.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]

It's stupid and poorly designed to hava a ''solo'' dungeon in a MMO that requires 5+ hours to be completed. It completely locks away players of your guild.
In addition, go play it with a tank or an healer and try to have fun....NOPE.

FriedEggSandwich · December 2015

Casering wrote: »

I heard maelstrom is pretty sucky that 5 hours just seems to much for 1 session let alone one dungeon, as for that ship game yeah sounds crap same with minecraft rly the P2W is insane and in most cases you lose everything on death I quit that awhile back for that reason im waiting for maelstrom to be tuned or maybe get op enough to do it but im not doing it often that's for sure.

It's more like 9 dungeons, and can be done in just over an hour by players who have practiced.

Frenkthevile · December 2015

Catblade wrote: »

30k dmg in ten seconds all in AOE form. Why is this fun? Lazy content can't come up with a better mechanic for literally every dungeon except AOE. Honestly I'm glad you put out this sort of content because it lets me know you don't have a clue what you're doing and i should spend my money elsewhere.

It is the most stupid thing i've ever seen in a MMO and my guild of 50+ pple thinks the same.

Nifty2g · December 2015

Harness magicka works on the blades

Hand_Bacon · December 2015

Frenkthevile wrote: »

It is the most stupid thing i've ever seen in a MMO and my guild of 50+ pple thinks the same.

When asked about a book critiquing his theory of relativity, titled something like "50 Scientists Against Einstein", Einstein said, "Why 50? If I were wrong, it would have only taken one."

Just sayin'.

mrfrontman · December 2015

I'm very new to Maelstrom Arena, in fact, I've only tried it 4 times so far. The first 3 times I went in blindfolded, I didn't bother watching any videos or tutorials. I couldn't even make it passed the first boss on the first stage. After watching a video tutorial for my specific class, I was able to make it all the way up to Stage 5 - Final Boss. I can't make it further at the moment but that's purely because of my gear. I need to upgrade, once I upgrade my equipment I can confidently say I WILL beat the Maelstrom Arena with ease.

The trick is maximizing your DPS, Keeping shields up at ALL times (Seriously, I can't say this any more clearly, don't even allow a second for your shields to be down) and maintaining your magicka/stamina.

Don't overbuff (HUGE waste of magicka/stamina) - Only buff when needed.
Don't be a noob - You have escapes, use them. Avoid red circles and attacks by dodge rolling/streaking etc.
Use potions/recipes to maximize your health, magicka and stamina + regeneration.
When the boss spawns, kill it as fast as possible. The longer the fight goes, the harder it gets. More mobs appear etc.
Watch your procs at all times, I recommend FTC if you're not using it. This will also help you determine your DPS which is vital in Maelstrom Arena.

Hope this helps.

pdebie64b16_ESO · December 2015

Trying Vmsa at a daily base since Orsinium came out, its the hardest content in game sofar and i managed to get to round 5 while stll having alot of problems with the stage3 boss.

The first few times stage2 seems impossible for me, but i keeped trying and now i can do the first two stages without dying most of the time.

Iam an older player not as fast anymore as 20 years ago with slow hands and fingers and the mechanics are unforgivable, one mistake, misclick with the mouse or even swapping weapons can give me an instand death.

But even with my penalties i get better and better it only takes alot of time to learn the mechanics, ive tried different gear combinations and skills to find out what works best for me.

One day i will beat Vmsa but i will never be high on the leader boards (i dont care about that, doing it only for the weapons)

All my attempts in Vmsa costed me thousends of gold and hundreds of soulgems but it will be worth it when i finaly beat it.

My advice to the op, keep trying

Artjuh90 · December 2015

catblade howmany threats have you made about bitching about vMSA about now?
5?

Khaos_Bane · December 2015

It can get VERY frustrating and aggravating without a doubt. I still think it's pretty well done and absolutely LOVE the concept. I think they did a good job with MA overall, it just needs some tweaking.

Francescolg · December 2015

Maelstrom Arena and the 2 new IC dungeons are the main reason I'm not going to spend any more $$ in expansion packs. I already did not play the 12men dungeons. I hope ZOS can earn enough money by pleasing the 2-5 players of my 500ppl trading guild, who do Maelstrom Arena. Everyone else is not doing it! And I bet ZOS can "see", how many ppl really do Maelstrom Arena.. So they could react and try to make it easier, as they would be able to do with other dungeons. But this is not happening, as I am not going to buy the next expansion pack, as there simply is nothing to do for me!

(This is my personal opinion and no object for discussion, ty!)

Khaos_Bane · December 2015

Francescolg wrote: »

Maelstrom Arena and the 2 new IC dungeons are the main reason I'm not going to spend any more $$ in expansion packs. I already did not play the 12men dungeons. I hope ZOS can earn enough money by pleasing the 2-5 players of my 500ppl trading guild, who do Maelstrom Arena. Everyone else is not doing it! And I bet ZOS can "see", how many ppl really do Maelstrom Arena.. So they could react and try to make it easier, as they would be able to do with other dungeons. But this is not happening, as I am not going to buy the next expansion pack, as there simply is nothing to do for me!

(This is my personal opinion and no object for discussion, ty!)

I am going to ride things out for one more expansion pack and that is about it, but different reasons. I have played IC enough that I never need to go into that expansion again. If they make IC and PvP the only place to get mats quickly again, and have such ridiculous mat costs I am done.

I will not grind and farm IC every expansion for mats, it's not reasonable and boring.

BigTone · December 2015

Finally beat vma last night and I feel so good about it. Took me about 2:00 and 15 lives to get to the final boss, then 200 more lives and another 5 hours to beat that *** but hey, I did it.

I really hope they don't nerf it. This game needs challenging, difficult, "want to claw your eyes out how the fu** did that kill me from full health the boss was at 5%" kind of content.

Oh, and sharpened resto staff for my efforts