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Is Bogdan the Nightflame monster set useless?

Spottswoode
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Pretty self explanatory. I've been healing with HoT's for a good bit now and I don't think I've seen it proc once. I know it's only a 2% chance, but dropping HoT's constantly SHOULD make it proc at least once.
The set apparently isn't bugged. It's just useless for any practical purpose.
Edited by Spottswoode on December 16, 2015 12:14PM
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  • Makkir
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    No it just sucks
  • Shunravi
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    Makkir wrote: »
    No it just sucks

    exactly what I was going to say
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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Which hots did you use? Last time I used it, it worked, but as the heal is not too good in the most situations, I haven't tried it for a while.
  • MrDerrikk
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    I wanted to try my NB with this 2pc, but if it doesn't proc on HoT's then it's completely pointless.
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  • Praeficere
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    It may or may not be bugged BUT, you actually have to heal someone who has taken damage unlike other sets(doesn't work with Equilibrium IIRC). Since you're running multiple HoTs and such, your team is topped off quite quickly (2% chance, haha) so it doesn't have much chance to proc.
    Edited by Praeficere on December 16, 2015 5:17AM
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  • Spottswoode
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    Makkir wrote: »
    No it just sucks

    Yeah..pretty much this.
    Praeficere wrote: »
    It may or may not be bugged BUT, you actually have to heal someone who has taken damage unlike other sets(doesn't work with Equilibrium IIRC). Since you're running multiple HoTs and such, your team is topped off quite quickly (2% chance, haha) so it doesn't have much chance to proc.

    That's not the issue. I did get it to proc after re-equipping it. I think that the totem is dying almost immediately after it spawns. Either that or the radius isn't large enough to reach.


    I'll elaborate: I have seen it proc when players get hit by big AOE's but the AOE's are either larger than the heal radius (they roll out of them, obviously) or the totem's are dying before they can send out heals.
    Edited by Spottswoode on December 16, 2015 7:02AM
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  • Eyecon74
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    Proc rate is stupid low and the area of the totem is tiny. I used this set for a while because I thought it was great for a healer but seeing it proc 3, maybe 4 times in a group dungeon is simply not worth it..
  • Spottswoode
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    If the heal area was sufficiently large, I wouldn't mind the proc rate. It's a 2-piece set after all. Combined with a number of different heal sets (combat physician, for example), you can have a wide array of combined effects. But as it is, it's pretty useless. I could use this inside Cyrodiil, to some effect, but it would easily be outclassed by wide area heals with healer's habit boost.
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  • Leon119
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    yes,yes it is :neutral:
  • Reverb
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    Most of the monster sets are underperforming, and a few are useless, like Bogdan.
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  • rez0055
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    I have this two pc set and I can tell ya it's useless. Atleast for me, i'm not a dedicated healer only a bit in pvp. I'm getting another one asap, I only use it because I got it fairly quikly after some dungeon runs. I advice you to use other sets, or if you like the looks? Be my guest.
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  • HebrewHatchet
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    What monster set do you use to heal then?
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  • Oh_Skrivva
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    @HebrewHatchet, I use one piece molag kena on my healer. The spell power bonus from is great.
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  • charisma316
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    if you think it sucks you suck haha its a great set homie
  • LostRedden
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    2% proc... Kinda useless. Boost it to at least 5 or 8.
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  • LordMcSwagger
    I have found Bogdan works fine. A few people have alluded to the fact that you actually need to be healing someone, not just spamming Healing Springs, or Breath of Life, so there is that. People have also mentioned how it disappears to early, I believe that this is because it is somehow tied to the life of an enemy and when the enemy dies, so does the totem. I have had mixed reviews on the set overall, but where I find it really shines is in Trials when teams stack on bosses. When everyone is stacked properly, the small AoE doesn't matter and if multiple healers are running Bogdan, then you will see a totem or two for the whole fight.
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    I have found Bogdan works fine. A few people have alluded to the fact that you actually need to be healing someone, not just spamming Healing Springs, or Breath of Life, so there is that. People have also mentioned how it disappears to early, I believe that this is because it is somehow tied to the life of an enemy and when the enemy dies, so does the totem. I have had mixed reviews on the set overall, but where I find it really shines is in Trials when teams stack on bosses. When everyone is stacked properly, the small AoE doesn't matter and if multiple healers are running Bogdan, then you will see a totem or two for the whole fight.

    Yes, but stack and burn is the only real time its effective. In situations where you need to move, or there are fewer people, its value is severely diminished. If the totem could move, then its value would go up in these other situations.
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  • jojoex21
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    I use it with spell power cure and I put down purifying ritual and use regeneration And it procs quite often... I think it's a great set for healer because normally it will drop on the tank relieving some pressure .
  • TiberX
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    I think there is no question about the fact that is useless :D I completely useless, this and the Maw of the Infernal.
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  • Peel_Ya_Cap_517
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    My healer buddy gets it to proc all the time and it has saved my life many times

    It is especially great when it drops on the tank
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  • ssewallb14_ESO
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    It grants a 1 piece health bonus for when you need that. But other than that it's useless. The entire concept of HoT on proc really can't work.
  • Flaminir
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    Bad set.

    Unbelievably bad design.

    As a healer if you are relying on a 2% RNG proc chance to heal & keep people alive then you are doing it very VERY wrong.

    And therefore if you DON'T need it to keep people alive then whats the point?

    Far better off using those two slots for something else.... either for another 2 parts on a set you're wearing... or 2 pieces torugs... or 1 piece Kena. Lots of other far better options.
    Edited by Flaminir on December 17, 2015 4:34PM
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  • Shadesofkin
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    I really wanted this to be good, but it never seems to work when I want.
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  • Flaminir
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    I really wanted this to be good, but it never seems to work when I want.

    Exactly.... it doesn't matter what they do with it.... healing can never be RNG.

    You need to know that somebody will be healed.... leaving it to chance... will they live / will they die....

    Needs to be reworked to provide an appropriate healer style buff which is separate to actual direct heals.
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  • Shadesofkin
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    Yeah seems to me that applying a massive bonus to heals on someone below 33% would have been a better bonus. That's what I would have done at any rate.
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  • _Chaos
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    Everyone saying the proc chance is too low is either playing a healer wrong or hasn't used this set at all and is a forum warrior. This set procs very often if you know how to keep HoT's up.

    I'd take it over Torugs any day.
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  • Flaminir
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    Everyone saying the proc chance is too low is either playing a healer wrong or hasn't used this set at all and is a forum warrior. This set procs very often if you know how to keep HoT's up.

    I'd take it over Torugs any day.

    Thats quite a sweeping generalization you have there... saying everybody is playing their healers wrong or hasn't used the set, and then you call THEM forum warriers?

    I do agree though that it does proc quite a bit.... BUT that doesn't get around the fact that the design is awful.... as a healer there is no grey area or levels of performance like there are with DPS.... at the end of the day either people die or they live.

    And trusting whether somebody lives or dies to RNG heals... and however much that procs, its not much...... is just bonkers.

    Although that's an extreme example... in reality the level of heal, small area, non-continual proc make it so its unlikely to be life or death... which means whats the point in running it?

    Use those two extra slots to up your spell power and make your HoT's stronger, which is more consistent and will result in a higher HPS anyway.

    Edited by Flaminir on December 17, 2015 5:36PM
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  • EgoRush
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    Utterly useless. 6K of healing over however many seconds. It is laughable.
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