If your going for Speed Runs or Leaderboards, then certain gear and builds may be preferable.

However if your just running these places, then you have a lot more options available to you. I run Vet Dungeons all the time with players who are not chasing the best builds or gear and we do just fine.

So, what are your goals, the best times and best scores or to experience the content?

Uber_Lord wrote: »

How is it that to have competitive DPS for endgame content like Trials, veteran Dragonstar Arena, veteran Dungeons one must follow a cookie cutter build?
The only way stamina DPS can do decent AOE is by using Steel Tornado. If you use 2 handed weapon for DPS nobody will want you in groups. I was forced to craft VR16 daggers with legendary quality and legendary enchants and use Steel Tornado and Surprise Attack. I am forced to play the way I wouldn't want to
I don't care about spending materials I just wish different playstyles were possible.
Why not buff Cleave and Arrow spray? Why must those abilities be useless for endgame content?

If they buff the damage of cleave and arrow spray by about 15%, that should be enough.

Cleave's bleed dot is pointless because it keeps refreshing when spamming the skill to kill multiple targets.

Same with acid spray for the same reason.

The difference with steel tornado is the double damage after 50% health. You're basically executing many mobs at once. The base damage is the same as cleave, arrow spray and every other aoe burst attack.

Uber_Lord wrote: »

My goal is just to be useful to a group while doing V16 dungeon. Usually somebody will point out that Im not using dual wield.

Then you need to find other people to run dungeons with, not with the Elitists that think you can only gear up one way. I have yet to hear anyone in the groups I am in talk about someone's gear and it being a problem. We will discuss rotations and skill choices in a given dungeon on a given boss, but that is completely different. Groups should discuss Tactics.

That may also be because we just want to have fun in a dungeon and a few wipes along the way are no big thang. I remember one guy in a group we were in Monday night qualifying himself about his gear and said if you want to kick me now I will understand. I told him we never kick anyone from a group unless they spam Battlefield Mobility during a fight. We did one Pledge and rocked, and we did everything in the Imperial Prison Pledge and rocked until the last boss. The last boss, well, that is a different story. We got close, but after 12 wipes our gear was wrecked and it was late. That is one of the hardest dungeons in the game and it should be hard to do and we did just fine until the end.